Which reminds me (was Re: Applying Herbs, etc, With Consent (was Re: Prevent on 05/19/2004 12:01 AM CDT
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<<With No RT, you would get critically poisoned, and with just low circle empaths there when it was happening, we couldn't kick out the snerts, or heal them fast enough to save them. (My character was just 20th >>

This reminds me, Jzara...would you consider looking into the way 'remove' works in our guild? Maybe give us a few more options please?

Amorisse


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Re: Which reminds me (was Re: Applying Herbs, etc, With Consent (was Re: Prevent on 05/19/2004 08:19 AM CDT
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What sort of options are you wanting?

GM Jzara
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Re: Which reminds me (was Re: Applying Herbs, etc, With Consent (was Re: Prevent on 05/19/2004 08:03 PM CDT
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>>>What sort of options are you wanting?

Well, let's see here. Maybe make it so that the total circles of the people wanting someone removed would total 50 or more? Lower the minimum to start the REMOVE process? Hire out Kalag's thugs so that the person being snerty gets tossed out with additional wounds? (Okay, the last one is either a joke or severely wishful thinking.)

As it stands now, most of us 25th+ circle folks in the Crossing area don't sit in the guild too much with the whole war thing going on, especially us military triage folk. We're usually off somewhere else dying of overhealing, which generally leaves the guildhall with only one REMOVE-capable empath around for a good portion of the prime playing times. And leaves the younger set without defense from the occasional [CENSORED] wandering through.

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Re: Which reminds me (was Re: Applying Herbs, etc, With Consent (was Re: Prevent on 05/19/2004 09:36 PM CDT
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I say lower the instant removal req to 40th circle, plus lower the total circles required to 40. That will deal with the problem.

Mole


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Re: Which reminds me (was Re: Applying Herbs, etc, With Consent (was Re: Prevent on 05/19/2004 11:57 PM CDT
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Maybe you can tell me what you think of how it was used... I want to be sure I understand its purpose. I have only used it in a couple of circumstances, so I can't say I know a lot about it. But I can describe how it worked for me those two times... it is the second time that it didn't actually, work.

Time one: a guy who liked a friend of "mine" (as Amorisse) was being a bother while I was healing in the infirmery. This was him harassing me. I told him (in so many words) to knock it off, leave me alone, and go away because I was busy healing and he was being a doofus. Well, he didn't. And keep it up, so I used remove. He was removed. Ten minutes later came back.. I was still busy healing and not going to have an argument in the infirmery with him. So I used remove again. He was removed again and didn't come back.

Time two: more recently, yet I don't remember all the details anymore... it is a long story but a couple people were being what I and some of the others in the main room felt was inappropriate and overly-disruptive of the guild environment...scrolling repetitive actions and talking in an ooc manner. They were empaths.

I don't like using thump, so I didn't. But it was getting to be annoying and we told them that it was annoying and to stop it. They brought in one of their friends who then added to the scrolling and ooc talk. We warned him to stop and he just got downright snerty about it. So I used remove. Well, five minutes later he was back. I tried to use remove again, but received the message that I've already notified the attendents of the problem.

In other words, I could only use it once. There was no other empath in the room available to second my removal request. I was reluctant to use the gweth, and I was busy teaching a class and trying to heal folks when needed, so I didn't want to just have to leave due to this guys antics. I gwethed for a friend I knew, he came, I explained the situation and he helped me remove the fellow.

Well, that didn't end the issue (as I'd hoped it would). Instead another guy came in, but he was hidden. Couldn't use remove on him. He shot one of the other empaths dead. He left soon after that.

Now, this is what I'd like to see with remove:

*one empath of certain circle able to remove someone for longer than just ten minutes.

*not have it contingent on the empath being more circles than the person to be removed.

*hiders get knocked out of hiding by the attendant and then removed.

*people who kill in the guild automatically removed and kept out for two or more real life days.

*if empaths abuse or overuse remove, first get a stern warning from Annael via the attendants, then have ability to remove temporarily disarmed if continues after warning.

Those are my ideas. I appreciate your opinion in all things Empath, Jzara, and am interested in your thoughts on this remove verb.

Thank you!

Amorisse




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Re: Which reminds me (was Re: Applying Herbs, etc, With Consent (was Re: Prevent on 05/20/2004 02:29 AM CDT
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<Amorisses post>

What she said! Great ideas Amorisse.

Mole

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Re: Which reminds me (was Re: Applying Herbs, etc, With Consent (was Re: Prevent on 05/20/2004 04:23 AM CDT
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I agree, great post, but I wouldn't be shy about asking for removal help on the gweths, I've done that several times when necessary. I'm a firm believer in promptly removing people who are misbehaving or otherwise being disruptive in the guild rooms. The only way we're going to rehabilitate our guildhall's poor reputation is by starting to enforce a higher standard of conduct than many people seem to think is acceptible there.
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Re: Which reminds me (was Re: Applying Herbs, etc, With Consent (was Re: Prevent on 05/20/2004 07:49 AM CDT
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Regarding the Remove option - I'd like a confirm. I feel horrible when I, for example:

>rem my c ring

And all of a sudden, I'm raising my voice to the attendants to have Myspeka removed.

I feel so awful about it. Then, I have to quickly explain in whispers - usually, people are okay and understanding, but I'd rather eliminate the problem by having a remove <person> followed by, "You are about to call attention to have <person> removed. Use remove <person> CONFIRM to continue with your call." or something like that.

~Chris, player of Field Medic Nimmi

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Re: Which reminds me (was Re: Applying Herbs, etc, With Consent (was Re: Prevent on 05/20/2004 08:55 AM CDT
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Seconding Nimmi's request, I have seen that happen before to a friend of mine. His name just happened to begin with "my."

I also agree with Amorisse's post, but I usually agree with most folks...


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Re: Which reminds me (was Re: Applying Herbs, etc, With Consent (was Re: Prevent on 05/20/2004 10:31 AM CDT
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>>Regarding the Remove option - I'd like a confirm. I feel horrible when I, for example:

>rem my c ring

>>And all of a sudden, I'm raising my voice to the attendants to have Myspeka removed.

>>I feel so awful about it. Then, I have to quickly explain in whispers - usually, people are okay and understanding, but I'd rather eliminate the problem by having a remove <person> followed by, "You are about to call attention to have <person> removed. Use remove <person> CONFIRM to continue with your call." or something like that.

I agree, that is an unfortunate accident. But the suggestion is a good one. Not too long ago one of my characters had to thump a couple of very confused young males who were using pig latin to talk garbage that was more than a bit obscene- This on the gondola. They didn't like it, but they piped down while I was there.

By the way- if you want to use a worn cambrinth but don't have the MD skill to use it while wearing it, try holding it. That way you won't remove anyone by accident!

By the way, Amorisse- Excellent suggestions!

Ryeka and an empath





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Re: Which reminds me (was Re: Applying Herbs, etc, With Consent (was Re: Prevent on 05/20/2004 10:53 AM CDT
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<<By the way- if you want to use a worn cambrinth but don't have the MD skill to use it while wearing it, try holding it. That way you won't remove anyone by accident!>>

Umm...I was trying to hold it? Besides which...the cambrinth was just an example, occassionally, I REMOVE MY armor once I get back inside my guild.

~Chris, player of Field Medic Nimmi

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Re: Which reminds me (was Re: Applying Herbs, etc, With Consent (was Re: Prevent on 05/20/2004 11:50 AM CDT
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How much skill does it take to charge cambrith while worn?


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Re: Which reminds me (was Re: Applying Herbs, etc, With Consent (was Re: Prevent on 05/20/2004 11:59 AM CDT
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>>How much skill does it take to charge cambrith while worn?

About 150 to start. By roughly 180 you should be able to consistently. That will be a huge help for empaths who are constantly losing their limbs!

Ryeka


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Re: Which reminds me (was Re: Applying Herbs, etc, With Consent (was Re: Prevent on 05/20/2004 04:13 PM CDT
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hehe Like me? <grin>


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