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Currently empaths have a chance of sensing when their spouse is in the dying state. I'd like to ask that Moon Mages also get this ability as seeing the future and psycic stuff are both supposed to be our guilds special abilities. I don't mean to try to detract from anything that empaths have, it just seems reasonable that moon mages should also be able to sense this, especialy since we have to spells like riftal summons that might be useful at such a time.
-Riaka
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I wouldn't mind moon mages having that ability. Maybe it will finally break the barrier to empaths being able to sense people's thoughts and manipulate our thoughts back to them (afterall, the true definition of empathy in dictionary includes the ability to know others' thoughts, feelings, etc).
But then, on the other hand, if moon mages are allowed to sense health stuff but when we ask for the thoughts and feelings stuff we're told, No, that's moon mages stuff, then I'd be annoyed because I hate those kinds of inconsistancies.
Amo
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But then, on the other hand, if moon mages are allowed to sense health stuff but when we ask for the thoughts and feelings stuff we're told, No, that's moon mages stuff, then I'd be annoyed because I hate those kinds of inconsistancies.
Amo
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Psychic ability is something that a moon mage generally has to concentrate on in order to receive it; it's not an inherent empathic sensing of life essences, which is what an empath experiences. The sensing that a spouse (or anyone) is dying isn't tied into the wavering of mental ability, but in a decrease of the person's vitality. For these reasons, the sensing of impending death as it is for the empaths wouldn't make sense for the moon mage, since it operates on a different "sense."
However, that doesn't mean that the moon mage guild couldn't have their own way of sensing or predicting the death of a spouse. I just don't see it happening in the same manner that empaths do.
GM Reexa
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However, that doesn't mean that the moon mage guild couldn't have their own way of sensing or predicting the death of a spouse. I just don't see it happening in the same manner that empaths do.
GM Reexa
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>Psychic ability is something that a moon mage generally has to concentrate on in order to receive it; it's not an inherent empathic sensing of life essences, which is what an empath experiences. The sensing that a spouse (or anyone) is dying isn't tied into the wavering of mental ability, but in a decrease of the person's vitality. For these reasons, the sensing of impending death as it is for the empaths wouldn't make sense for the moon mage, since it operates on a different "sense."
Psycic ability generaly requires a moon mage to percieve (as does percieve health) however, predictions most definitely do not. They come to us often unbidden as twinges or visions without the moon mage doing anything at all. Additionaly we have a spell called Seer's Sense which links us to a person and allows us to know where they are, how they're feeling, their state of health, if they're in combat, etc. I don't see how this spell would NOT allow a moon mage to feel when they were dying. Because it would be an act of seeing the future ie "my husband is about to die!" then I don't see why it would be out of line for a moon mage to have this ability.
-Riaka
The shadowling exclaims, "Haha!"
Psycic ability generaly requires a moon mage to percieve (as does percieve health) however, predictions most definitely do not. They come to us often unbidden as twinges or visions without the moon mage doing anything at all. Additionaly we have a spell called Seer's Sense which links us to a person and allows us to know where they are, how they're feeling, their state of health, if they're in combat, etc. I don't see how this spell would NOT allow a moon mage to feel when they were dying. Because it would be an act of seeing the future ie "my husband is about to die!" then I don't see why it would be out of line for a moon mage to have this ability.
-Riaka
The shadowling exclaims, "Haha!"
Because the ability as it works for empaths functions off of the sensing of life essence. Since the empath uses Life magic, and empathy, the sensing in this manner makes sense. Neither of these are used by moon mages, so the adoption of this particular ability for moon mages does not make sense. While the message that the spouse is dying reflects that death is impending, the act of sensing this is in the present, not in the future. It's a small but important distinction: "My spouse is dying" as opposed to "My spouse is about to die."
As I said, the creation of something similar that's adapted to a moon mage's special skills is not outside the realm of possibility, and I encourage you to consider them and post suggestions in the appropriate folder; however, the current form of the ability is not suitable nor logical for a moon mage's use. Perhaps something that taps into the mental activity of a person would suit better (to reflect the psychic realm), with another version that senses spiritual danger for cleric spouses. Or perhaps, using the prediction aspect, something that would anticipate when your spouse is outmatched in a circumstance (too many critters, fighting above their level, attempting a box that is significantly above their level), and could signal that your spouse is about to engage in an activity where the odds are stacked against them in a significant way. There are a few variations I can think of that would fit better with a moon mage.
GM Reexa
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As I said, the creation of something similar that's adapted to a moon mage's special skills is not outside the realm of possibility, and I encourage you to consider them and post suggestions in the appropriate folder; however, the current form of the ability is not suitable nor logical for a moon mage's use. Perhaps something that taps into the mental activity of a person would suit better (to reflect the psychic realm), with another version that senses spiritual danger for cleric spouses. Or perhaps, using the prediction aspect, something that would anticipate when your spouse is outmatched in a circumstance (too many critters, fighting above their level, attempting a box that is significantly above their level), and could signal that your spouse is about to engage in an activity where the odds are stacked against them in a significant way. There are a few variations I can think of that would fit better with a moon mage.
GM Reexa
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Reexa,
Please consider an empath's ability to know the thoughts, feelings, and emotions of others' and create an empath-like version of the ability to know what someone is thinking and a version of manipulation that will allow empaths to "message" others.
I don't expect it to be blatant mind-reading as that's not empathy. Instead, there should be a set of generic messages that can be sensed in the target by the empath and manipulated to the target...
Examples of messages an empath can sense:
I am hurt and would like help at <location>.
I am lonely and would like company at <location>.
I am thinking of you.
I love you.
I'm mad at you.
Examples of messages that empaths can send:
A tingling runs through your body as an empath attempts to establish a link to you. You suddenly feel comforted knowing that help is on the way.
A surge of warmth runs through your body and you know you are thought of.
Suddenly your heart skips a beat. Somebody loves you.
A tinge of angst pricks at you. Someone is mad at you.
Oh, I don't know... but those are seeds to start with. I'm sure there are creative empaths out there who can edit and revise the idea and make it doable : )
Thanks for reading,
Amo
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Please consider an empath's ability to know the thoughts, feelings, and emotions of others' and create an empath-like version of the ability to know what someone is thinking and a version of manipulation that will allow empaths to "message" others.
I don't expect it to be blatant mind-reading as that's not empathy. Instead, there should be a set of generic messages that can be sensed in the target by the empath and manipulated to the target...
Examples of messages an empath can sense:
I am hurt and would like help at <location>.
I am lonely and would like company at <location>.
I am thinking of you.
I love you.
I'm mad at you.
Examples of messages that empaths can send:
A tingling runs through your body as an empath attempts to establish a link to you. You suddenly feel comforted knowing that help is on the way.
A surge of warmth runs through your body and you know you are thought of.
Suddenly your heart skips a beat. Somebody loves you.
A tinge of angst pricks at you. Someone is mad at you.
Oh, I don't know... but those are seeds to start with. I'm sure there are creative empaths out there who can edit and revise the idea and make it doable : )
Thanks for reading,
Amo
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Of course, if I really cared about this at all, I would point out that the visions we recieve involuntarily are always of a present situation. The prediction abilities allow us to see possible futures, but no predicted future is certain. However, once a future reaches a certainty, if that certainty is of great enough importance, as are invasions, and surely, a spouse dying, the mage recieves a vision of the certainty. So, following the precedent of the existing vision system, spousal death detection would make sense.
But I don't care about this at all, so I won't point it out.
~Kashik,
...uh... yeah...
"Consider your bottom... two... little corn-cob spiky handle things."
~Mean Maelona Morlamgar
But I don't care about this at all, so I won't point it out.
~Kashik,
...uh... yeah...
"Consider your bottom... two... little corn-cob spiky handle things."
~Mean Maelona Morlamgar
Kashik,
I think Reexa is just pointing out that the "sensing" of dying needs to be worded different.
But as was pointed out by others, posting here will only get our opinions but nothing else. If you do care about this ability, post in the moon mage folder, not here.
I don't see why an ability to have visions of a dying spouse couldn't be given to the moon mages. Post it where it will get attention by the people who can affect the development. They don't necessarily read this folder and it's not really empaths' business what moonies get as long as it's moonie-like in nature.
Amo
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I think Reexa is just pointing out that the "sensing" of dying needs to be worded different.
But as was pointed out by others, posting here will only get our opinions but nothing else. If you do care about this ability, post in the moon mage folder, not here.
I don't see why an ability to have visions of a dying spouse couldn't be given to the moon mages. Post it where it will get attention by the people who can affect the development. They don't necessarily read this folder and it's not really empaths' business what moonies get as long as it's moonie-like in nature.
Amo
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For reference, here is what a moon mage sees with a Seer's Sense link.
You sense the Seer's Sense link upon you, connecting you to Sukair and it should last around thirty-seven roisaen.
He is so close you can almost hear his thoughts.
Full of life, and ready to meet Fate is he, standing to face his future.
You sense that Sukair is free of combat at this time.
You perceive a faint trace of Moon magic clinging to Sukair.
You're pretty sure that Sukair is not holding any mana, but you can't tell what spells might be on him.
That's some pretty detailed info. I fail to see how we could NOT sense that the person was dying with such a link established. Pay special attention to the line "Full of life" that's where we can tell how healthy he is.
>Since the empath uses Life magic, and empathy, the sensing in this manner makes sense. Neither of these are used by moon mages, so the adoption of this particular ability for moon mages does not make sens
I could argue something simmilar. While an empath does have the ability to percieve life and health, they have absolutely no precident for doing such things over signifigant distances, whereas Moon mages do, via seers sense, thoughtcast, our multitude of clairvoyance spells, an enchantment or two, and etc. It's true that the body going into shock is a health-related issue, but i'm pretty sure that the person would be thinking something like "Oh dear, i'm about to die" or simply their thoughts winking out as they get knocked unconsious would be enough to alert a moon mage with such familiarity with their spouse.
>It's a small but important distinction: "My spouse is dying" as opposed to "My spouse is about to die."
I fail to see the distinction. While one guild is sensing their health 'waves' waver, the other is seeing a vision of their spouse slain at the hands of a monster or whatever, knowing this is likely to transpire without intervention. I don't really mind if the messaging is different, but both guilds have equal claim to this ability in my eyes.
>As I said, the creation of something similar that's adapted to a moon mage's special skills is not outside the realm of possibility, and I encourage you to consider them and post suggestions in the appropriate folder
Though I can't claim to fully understand the organization or delegation of responsibilities in the simutronics 'machine', this seems more closely related to the Dying system than it does to any moon mage system. Since it would probably get knocked over here by our guru anyway, I figured i'd stick it where someone with authority to modify the system could read it.
-Riaka
The shadowling exclaims, "Haha!"
You sense the Seer's Sense link upon you, connecting you to Sukair and it should last around thirty-seven roisaen.
He is so close you can almost hear his thoughts.
Full of life, and ready to meet Fate is he, standing to face his future.
You sense that Sukair is free of combat at this time.
You perceive a faint trace of Moon magic clinging to Sukair.
You're pretty sure that Sukair is not holding any mana, but you can't tell what spells might be on him.
That's some pretty detailed info. I fail to see how we could NOT sense that the person was dying with such a link established. Pay special attention to the line "Full of life" that's where we can tell how healthy he is.
>Since the empath uses Life magic, and empathy, the sensing in this manner makes sense. Neither of these are used by moon mages, so the adoption of this particular ability for moon mages does not make sens
I could argue something simmilar. While an empath does have the ability to percieve life and health, they have absolutely no precident for doing such things over signifigant distances, whereas Moon mages do, via seers sense, thoughtcast, our multitude of clairvoyance spells, an enchantment or two, and etc. It's true that the body going into shock is a health-related issue, but i'm pretty sure that the person would be thinking something like "Oh dear, i'm about to die" or simply their thoughts winking out as they get knocked unconsious would be enough to alert a moon mage with such familiarity with their spouse.
>It's a small but important distinction: "My spouse is dying" as opposed to "My spouse is about to die."
I fail to see the distinction. While one guild is sensing their health 'waves' waver, the other is seeing a vision of their spouse slain at the hands of a monster or whatever, knowing this is likely to transpire without intervention. I don't really mind if the messaging is different, but both guilds have equal claim to this ability in my eyes.
>As I said, the creation of something similar that's adapted to a moon mage's special skills is not outside the realm of possibility, and I encourage you to consider them and post suggestions in the appropriate folder
Though I can't claim to fully understand the organization or delegation of responsibilities in the simutronics 'machine', this seems more closely related to the Dying system than it does to any moon mage system. Since it would probably get knocked over here by our guru anyway, I figured i'd stick it where someone with authority to modify the system could read it.
-Riaka
The shadowling exclaims, "Haha!"
<<However, once a future reaches a certainty, if that certainty is of great enough importance, as are invasions, and surely, a spouse dying, the mage recieves a vision of the certainty. So, following the precedent of the existing vision system, spousal death detection would make sense.>>
If the spouse is dying, death isn't yet a certainty. The health is wavering but not entirely extinguished, which is why an empath is tuned into it. It is the sensing in the change of this life essence that an empath picks up when he or she receives that messaging. Health sensing, the presence or loss of life, are the empath's specialty. That is why this particular form of the sensing of a dying spouse doesn't work for other than the empath...no one else has that empathy that taps them into the life essence sensed.
The hows of a moon mage's predictions or visions, what specifically triggers them and makes them function, should be incorporated into such an ability should the moon mage folks decide to pursue this avenue of development, and again, suggestions for such should be directed to the appropriate folders.
I'd be happy to see a form of such for the moon mage guild, or any other guild where such a concept might be suitable.
GM Reexa
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Mokshamu galada bhuvilo jivanmuktuluka nivaralaku --Tyagaraga
If the spouse is dying, death isn't yet a certainty. The health is wavering but not entirely extinguished, which is why an empath is tuned into it. It is the sensing in the change of this life essence that an empath picks up when he or she receives that messaging. Health sensing, the presence or loss of life, are the empath's specialty. That is why this particular form of the sensing of a dying spouse doesn't work for other than the empath...no one else has that empathy that taps them into the life essence sensed.
The hows of a moon mage's predictions or visions, what specifically triggers them and makes them function, should be incorporated into such an ability should the moon mage folks decide to pursue this avenue of development, and again, suggestions for such should be directed to the appropriate folders.
I'd be happy to see a form of such for the moon mage guild, or any other guild where such a concept might be suitable.
GM Reexa
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Mokshamu galada bhuvilo jivanmuktuluka nivaralaku --Tyagaraga
<<Please consider an empath's ability to know the thoughts, feelings, and emotions of others' and create an empath-like version of the ability to know what someone is thinking and a version of manipulation that will allow empaths to "message" others.>>
I don't know that all of these will be feasible, but variations of such have been and are being discussed.
GM Reexa
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Mokshamu galada bhuvilo jivanmuktuluka nivaralaku --Tyagaraga
I don't know that all of these will be feasible, but variations of such have been and are being discussed.
GM Reexa
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Mokshamu galada bhuvilo jivanmuktuluka nivaralaku --Tyagaraga
>If the spouse is dying, death isn't yet a certainty.
Moon mage visions are never certainties, but simply visions of thinks that have a high chance of occuring. They can be averted by actions of the seer. I think there's been some pretty good points presented here, and this is the appropriate place to be discussing it since it relates directly to healing systems. You could ask the MM Guru via whatever means GMs use about what a moon mage can and can't do, but it's ultimately your system.
>Health sensing, the presence or loss of life, are the empath's specialty. That is why this particular form of the sensing of a dying spouse doesn't work for other than the empath...no one else has that empathy that taps them into the life essence sensed.
Yes, it certainly is. And no, nobody else has empathy. What i'm saying is that there's more than one way to tell when a person is dying, and it's related to this system. That's why i'd like you to add support for moon mages doing this.
-Riaka
The shadowling exclaims, "Haha!"
Moon mage visions are never certainties, but simply visions of thinks that have a high chance of occuring. They can be averted by actions of the seer. I think there's been some pretty good points presented here, and this is the appropriate place to be discussing it since it relates directly to healing systems. You could ask the MM Guru via whatever means GMs use about what a moon mage can and can't do, but it's ultimately your system.
>Health sensing, the presence or loss of life, are the empath's specialty. That is why this particular form of the sensing of a dying spouse doesn't work for other than the empath...no one else has that empathy that taps them into the life essence sensed.
Yes, it certainly is. And no, nobody else has empathy. What i'm saying is that there's more than one way to tell when a person is dying, and it's related to this system. That's why i'd like you to add support for moon mages doing this.
-Riaka
The shadowling exclaims, "Haha!"
<<What i'm saying is that there's more than one way to tell when a person is dying, and it's related to this system. That's why i'd like you to add support for moon mages doing this.>>
I fully agree, Riaka, and I've said as much at least twice already. I think we're arguing on the same side of things. My point is that the current ability *as it functions* is not suitable for other guilds. I'd be more than happy to see something developed that would support a moon mage's skills and abilities in this fashion, as I would any other guild that sought such with a legitimate viewpoint.
<<but it's ultimately your system.>>
Healing systems are not the domain of Team Empath. There are separate GMs that work on the healing system because health is something that impacts everyone. Team Empath works very closely with the healing systems folks for obvious reasons, but in the end, any additions to the dying statuses for other guilds does not rest with Team Empath. This is why I recommended (and still recommend) that if you have ideas regarding how to incorporate special messaging for a moon mage when their spouse is dying, that these suggestions be posted to the guild folder, so that the GMs who directly work for the moon mage guild can draft a proposal for approval and submit it through the appropriate channels. Even in GM land, we have certain procedures to follow.
I'd be more than happy to drop a note to GM Towint regarding this thread and ask if he could come take a look at it and comment if he feels it's appropriate.
GM Reexa
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Mokshamu galada bhuvilo jivanmuktuluka nivaralaku --Tyagaraga
I fully agree, Riaka, and I've said as much at least twice already. I think we're arguing on the same side of things. My point is that the current ability *as it functions* is not suitable for other guilds. I'd be more than happy to see something developed that would support a moon mage's skills and abilities in this fashion, as I would any other guild that sought such with a legitimate viewpoint.
<<but it's ultimately your system.>>
Healing systems are not the domain of Team Empath. There are separate GMs that work on the healing system because health is something that impacts everyone. Team Empath works very closely with the healing systems folks for obvious reasons, but in the end, any additions to the dying statuses for other guilds does not rest with Team Empath. This is why I recommended (and still recommend) that if you have ideas regarding how to incorporate special messaging for a moon mage when their spouse is dying, that these suggestions be posted to the guild folder, so that the GMs who directly work for the moon mage guild can draft a proposal for approval and submit it through the appropriate channels. Even in GM land, we have certain procedures to follow.
I'd be more than happy to drop a note to GM Towint regarding this thread and ask if he could come take a look at it and comment if he feels it's appropriate.
GM Reexa
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Mokshamu galada bhuvilo jivanmuktuluka nivaralaku --Tyagaraga
Seer's sense us to allow us to have a special bond with the person it's cast on. In DR, this type of bond is ever-present between two spouses. This is evidenced by the similarities to moon mage abilities, such as when you 'focus' and get a locate-like instant vision of your spouse.
>For these reasons, the sensing of impending death as it is for the empaths wouldn't make sense for the moon mage, since it operates on a different "sense."
Like others have said, we often get instant visions of enemy troops marching towards enemy cities, etc. We generally get instant visions only when a lot of people are about to die. I see that as carrying over to being able to instantly see a vision of your spouse about to die with the bond present between your spouse and yourself.
To this end I'd like to expand on exactly what we see when we focus on someone in trouble when we sense them with seer's sense:
When someone's bleeding, we see:
Life leaks from Riaka.
When they're getting low on vit we see:
Drained of vigor is Riaka, but not beyond hope
When they're Very low on vit we see:
Urrem'Tier hovers near Riaka, patiently waiting
So...the ability of Moon Mages to sense health and other conditions are already there. The extra bond due to being bonded to a spouse could easily be seen to extend the psychic connection to them, allowing instant visions of near death to be seen.
-Sukair
"Nevertheless, history no longer matters here -- in things that have happened and things that will happen and things that are happening. Elanthia is dying."
>For these reasons, the sensing of impending death as it is for the empaths wouldn't make sense for the moon mage, since it operates on a different "sense."
Like others have said, we often get instant visions of enemy troops marching towards enemy cities, etc. We generally get instant visions only when a lot of people are about to die. I see that as carrying over to being able to instantly see a vision of your spouse about to die with the bond present between your spouse and yourself.
To this end I'd like to expand on exactly what we see when we focus on someone in trouble when we sense them with seer's sense:
When someone's bleeding, we see:
Life leaks from Riaka.
When they're getting low on vit we see:
Drained of vigor is Riaka, but not beyond hope
When they're Very low on vit we see:
Urrem'Tier hovers near Riaka, patiently waiting
So...the ability of Moon Mages to sense health and other conditions are already there. The extra bond due to being bonded to a spouse could easily be seen to extend the psychic connection to them, allowing instant visions of near death to be seen.
-Sukair
"Nevertheless, history no longer matters here -- in things that have happened and things that will happen and things that are happening. Elanthia is dying."
<grumbles at Reexa for distracting him from work on the {} system...> :-)
Yes, messages about Death and Dying can be posted here, since they are part of Healing Systems and thus one of my responsibilities.
No, I'm not going to get into the discussion of whether or not Moon Mages 'own' or are 'the sole masters' of mental manipulations. Don't ask and don't discuss it here, as I'll request the Board Monitors to pull such posts as having nothing to do with Healing Systems. If you want to discuss additional Empathic abilities in this respect, there are other areas in the Empath category to discuss it than here.
Bottom line, please restrict discussions in this area to Healing Systems. And no, demeanor really should not be considered part of that, except in the very narrow sense of whether or not it prevents or aids you in getting healed.
Now, to answer the question...
I am willing to both consider and code a change to allow Moon Mages to sense that their spouse is dying, IF such a proposal is made to the Moon Mage team and IF Tribanin provides a rationale that is accepted by the various GMs (not just myself) who need to approve it. For what it's worth, my initial thought is that if a Moon Mage had a Seers sense up on someone at the time, would a change to Dying state be noticed? Quite possibly. However, Moon Mages, unlike Empaths, aren't attuned to changes in life energy, so without magical aid, it's unlikely that they'd notice this kind of change, in my opinion. Regardless, please take your proposals to the Moon Mage boards, figure out what you think it should be, and if your Guru goes for it, then it can be sent through channels.
Just one more point for folks to consider... does anyone remember who was Trylaine Aurthos and how did (s)he react to the dying... and more importantly, when... and where the dying were located in relation to Trylaine? Potential is a wonderful thing...
<heads back to work on high priority projects that are behind schedule>
GameMaster Towint B'niyvyl
Yes, messages about Death and Dying can be posted here, since they are part of Healing Systems and thus one of my responsibilities.
No, I'm not going to get into the discussion of whether or not Moon Mages 'own' or are 'the sole masters' of mental manipulations. Don't ask and don't discuss it here, as I'll request the Board Monitors to pull such posts as having nothing to do with Healing Systems. If you want to discuss additional Empathic abilities in this respect, there are other areas in the Empath category to discuss it than here.
Bottom line, please restrict discussions in this area to Healing Systems. And no, demeanor really should not be considered part of that, except in the very narrow sense of whether or not it prevents or aids you in getting healed.
Now, to answer the question...
I am willing to both consider and code a change to allow Moon Mages to sense that their spouse is dying, IF such a proposal is made to the Moon Mage team and IF Tribanin provides a rationale that is accepted by the various GMs (not just myself) who need to approve it. For what it's worth, my initial thought is that if a Moon Mage had a Seers sense up on someone at the time, would a change to Dying state be noticed? Quite possibly. However, Moon Mages, unlike Empaths, aren't attuned to changes in life energy, so without magical aid, it's unlikely that they'd notice this kind of change, in my opinion. Regardless, please take your proposals to the Moon Mage boards, figure out what you think it should be, and if your Guru goes for it, then it can be sent through channels.
Just one more point for folks to consider... does anyone remember who was Trylaine Aurthos and how did (s)he react to the dying... and more importantly, when... and where the dying were located in relation to Trylaine? Potential is a wonderful thing...
<heads back to work on high priority projects that are behind schedule>
GameMaster Towint B'niyvyl
Seems like it would be a good idea. Makes sense to me. But how would sensing that really change anything? If they are truly dying then it would only be a second or two before *your spouse was just struck down, then you would know anyway. A better warning would be, you sense that your anniversary is today... now that would save lives.
"Anyone who spends a significant amount of time with me finds me disagreeable."
~Purehand, No one ever suspects the empath.
"Anyone who spends a significant amount of time with me finds me disagreeable."
~Purehand, No one ever suspects the empath.
<<GM Towint>>>
: ) ~purr~ Love having you around working on empath stuff. I know it's gotta be good.
Plus, been thinking about "stuff" and I may have figured some things out. Anyhow, was very very nice to meet and talk with you at con. Hope to see you posting here a bit more often.
Amo (Lisette)
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"All stupid is is smart about the wrong things." ~GM Ceiswyn
There is nothing wrong about looking good!
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: ) ~purr~ Love having you around working on empath stuff. I know it's gotta be good.
Plus, been thinking about "stuff" and I may have figured some things out. Anyhow, was very very nice to meet and talk with you at con. Hope to see you posting here a bit more often.
Amo (Lisette)
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"All stupid is is smart about the wrong things." ~GM Ceiswyn
There is nothing wrong about looking good!
Contact: Amorisse1 or littlegoldhalo@saintly.com for shifting/price list.
>Seems like it would be a good idea. Makes sense to me. But how would sensing that really change anything? If they are truly dying then it would only be a second or two before *your spouse was just struck down, then you would know anyway. A better warning would be, you sense that your anniversary is today... now that would save lives.
Riftal Summons and hope there's an empath in the same room as you.
-Riaka
The shadowling exclaims, "Haha!"
Riftal Summons and hope there's an empath in the same room as you.
-Riaka
The shadowling exclaims, "Haha!"
> does anyone remember who was Trylaine Aurthos and how did (s)he react to the dying...
Ok...someone fill me in? :-P
Raudhan,
Battle Empath
Lionjester says, "still, was funny when da empath slapped da warrior 'king'"
Krumbard says, "Good old Raud"
Lionjester says, "and Yhaman cudnt do a thing bout it"
Krumbard says, "She's got bigger yaks than the Mayor"
Ok...someone fill me in? :-P
Raudhan,
Battle Empath
Lionjester says, "still, was funny when da empath slapped da warrior 'king'"
Krumbard says, "Good old Raud"
Lionjester says, "and Yhaman cudnt do a thing bout it"
Krumbard says, "She's got bigger yaks than the Mayor"
>does anyone remember who was Trylaine Aurthos and how did (s)he react to the dying...
It was the GMNPC that introduced manipulate, she could sense every death in the world. Of course using that as a precident is like saying moon mages should be able to self ressurect because Tezirah did it =P
-Riaka
The shadowling exclaims, "Haha!"
It was the GMNPC that introduced manipulate, she could sense every death in the world. Of course using that as a precident is like saying moon mages should be able to self ressurect because Tezirah did it =P
-Riaka
The shadowling exclaims, "Haha!"
