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>>I've made a small change to the mechanism for learning the Flare cantrip. The skill contest remains unchanged, but if you succeed in it and are eligible to learn the cantrip, you will without any further randomness.
Omg!!
<3
-- Player of Eyuve
>I've made a small change to the mechanism for learning the Flare cantrip. The skill contest remains unchanged, but if you succeed in it and are eligible to learn the cantrip, you will without any further randomness.
I believe this also means it's safe to assume there is now a non-negligible chance of "death by eye strain."
-Artificer Nilassa
I believe this also means it's safe to assume there is now a non-negligible chance of "death by eye strain."
-Artificer Nilassa
Wait! Um... I'm still getting the same failure message? I just tried 4 more times.
>study obelisk
You strain your eyes slightly to study a section of the inscriptions that seem to waver slightly.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>
However, you're unable to decipher any of the information.
You know the following cantrips:
Generic Cantrips: Kinetic Fling (keyword: "fling").
Sect-Related Cantrips: None.
Did the reqs go up or am I doing something wrong?
-- Player of Eyuve
>study obelisk
You strain your eyes slightly to study a section of the inscriptions that seem to waver slightly.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>
However, you're unable to decipher any of the information.
You know the following cantrips:
Generic Cantrips: Kinetic Fling (keyword: "fling").
Sect-Related Cantrips: None.
Did the reqs go up or am I doing something wrong?
-- Player of Eyuve
To clarify further:
The skill contest itself has a large random attached. This was unchanged, but it's possible to get 100% with enough skill.
In addition to the skill contest, there's then a large random to decide if you really get to learn the cantrip or get some fluff text instead. That's what I removed for people who don't have the cantrip yet.
-Armifer
"In our days truth is taken to result from the effacing of the living man behind the mathematical structures that think themselves out in him, rather than he be thinking them." - Emmanuel Levinas
The skill contest itself has a large random attached. This was unchanged, but it's possible to get 100% with enough skill.
In addition to the skill contest, there's then a large random to decide if you really get to learn the cantrip or get some fluff text instead. That's what I removed for people who don't have the cantrip yet.
-Armifer
"In our days truth is taken to result from the effacing of the living man behind the mathematical structures that think themselves out in him, rather than he be thinking them." - Emmanuel Levinas
So I plopped down a 2-hour Katamba beam and settled in to try out the obelisk. I put up a 90-120 rank Scholarship prediction, got a bard friend to come sit with me and sing a capped Faenella's Grace (Scholarship bonus), and put up DG and AUS just in case.
My friend was kind enough to toss together a script while I was preparing, which included a counter:
>>57. 57 failed tries! Ah ah ah.
I stayed the entire 2 hours until the beam was gone.
Sooo... I give up.
-- Player of Eyuve
My friend was kind enough to toss together a script while I was preparing, which included a counter:
>>57. 57 failed tries! Ah ah ah.
I stayed the entire 2 hours until the beam was gone.
Sooo... I give up.
-- Player of Eyuve
Are you sure it takes bonused ranks into consideration and not base?
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>>Do you have all the non-skill related requirements?
I only ever read that you need general cantrip knowledge and 40-50 Scholarship for Flare. You need Burn for Scorch.
However, I do have Burn, as well as Dazzle. I can't think of any other spell it could require. I also certainly have general cantrip knowledge, as I was able to get Fling.
>>Are you sure it takes bonused ranks into consideration and not base?
Well, in the past it has helped (with learning shards). But I have no clue; the fail message is the same with and without the boosts.
But suffice it to say I have well over 40-50 ranks of Scholarship.
-- Player of Eyuve
I only ever read that you need general cantrip knowledge and 40-50 Scholarship for Flare. You need Burn for Scorch.
However, I do have Burn, as well as Dazzle. I can't think of any other spell it could require. I also certainly have general cantrip knowledge, as I was able to get Fling.
>>Are you sure it takes bonused ranks into consideration and not base?
Well, in the past it has helped (with learning shards). But I have no clue; the fail message is the same with and without the boosts.
But suffice it to say I have well over 40-50 ranks of Scholarship.
-- Player of Eyuve
its probably more scholarship. here are the MMs i have it with:
MM1: <circle 30>
In the chapter entitled "Perception," you have notes on the Clear Vision [cv], Piercing Gaze [pg], Locate, Distant Gaze [dg], and Seer's Sense [seer] spells.
In the chapter entitled "Psychic Projection," you have notes on the Hypnotize [calm] and Psychic Shield [psy] spells.
In the chapter entitled "Moonlight Manipulation," you have notes on the Shadows, Focus Moonbeam [fm], Refractive Field [rf], and Dinazen Olkar [do] spells.
In the chapter entitled "Transduction," you have notes on the Telekinetic Throw [tkt], Teleport, and Moongate [mg] spells.
In the chapter entitled "Analogous Patterns," you have notes on the Energy Bolt [bolt] and Ease Burden [ease] spells.
You know the following cantrips:
Generic Cantrips: Meah K'et (keyword: "flare").
Sect-Related Cantrips: Oshu Sarhhtha (keyword: "dance").
Scholarship: 128 31.77% clear (0/34)
MM2: <circle 31>
In the chapter entitled "Perception," you have notes on the Clear Vision [cv], Locate, Distant Gaze [dg], and Seer's Sense [seer] spells.
In the chapter entitled "Psychic Projection," you have notes on the Hypnotize [calm], Mental Blast [mb], and Psychic Shield [psy] spells.
In the chapter entitled "Moonlight Manipulation," you have notes on the Shadows, Focus Moonbeam [fm], Tezirah's Veil [tv], and Dinazen Olkar [do] spells.
In the chapter entitled "Transduction," you have notes on the Telekinetic Throw [tkt], Teleport, and Cage of Light [col] spells.
In the chapter entitled "Analogous Patterns," you have notes on the Energy Bolt [bolt] and Ease Burden [ease] spells.
You know the following cantrips:
Generic Cantrips: Meah K'et (keyword: "flare"), Veiled Identity (keyword: "face").
Sect-Related Cantrips: Sibowen (keyword: "appear").
Scholarship: 126 34.43% clear (0/34)
My Monk < circle 20/70 scholarship> and my G'nar Pethian <circle 16/50 scholarship> do not yet have general cantrip knowledge.
/---
Oh and last one, DR at any given time has a population of weenies that will criticize at the drop of a hat, don't take things personally it happens to everyone.
Leucius
MM1: <circle 30>
In the chapter entitled "Perception," you have notes on the Clear Vision [cv], Piercing Gaze [pg], Locate, Distant Gaze [dg], and Seer's Sense [seer] spells.
In the chapter entitled "Psychic Projection," you have notes on the Hypnotize [calm] and Psychic Shield [psy] spells.
In the chapter entitled "Moonlight Manipulation," you have notes on the Shadows, Focus Moonbeam [fm], Refractive Field [rf], and Dinazen Olkar [do] spells.
In the chapter entitled "Transduction," you have notes on the Telekinetic Throw [tkt], Teleport, and Moongate [mg] spells.
In the chapter entitled "Analogous Patterns," you have notes on the Energy Bolt [bolt] and Ease Burden [ease] spells.
You know the following cantrips:
Generic Cantrips: Meah K'et (keyword: "flare").
Sect-Related Cantrips: Oshu Sarhhtha (keyword: "dance").
Scholarship: 128 31.77% clear (0/34)
MM2: <circle 31>
In the chapter entitled "Perception," you have notes on the Clear Vision [cv], Locate, Distant Gaze [dg], and Seer's Sense [seer] spells.
In the chapter entitled "Psychic Projection," you have notes on the Hypnotize [calm], Mental Blast [mb], and Psychic Shield [psy] spells.
In the chapter entitled "Moonlight Manipulation," you have notes on the Shadows, Focus Moonbeam [fm], Tezirah's Veil [tv], and Dinazen Olkar [do] spells.
In the chapter entitled "Transduction," you have notes on the Telekinetic Throw [tkt], Teleport, and Cage of Light [col] spells.
In the chapter entitled "Analogous Patterns," you have notes on the Energy Bolt [bolt] and Ease Burden [ease] spells.
You know the following cantrips:
Generic Cantrips: Meah K'et (keyword: "flare"), Veiled Identity (keyword: "face").
Sect-Related Cantrips: Sibowen (keyword: "appear").
Scholarship: 126 34.43% clear (0/34)
My Monk < circle 20/70 scholarship> and my G'nar Pethian <circle 16/50 scholarship> do not yet have general cantrip knowledge.
/---
Oh and last one, DR at any given time has a population of weenies that will criticize at the drop of a hat, don't take things personally it happens to everyone.
Leucius
>> I also certainly have general cantrip knowledge, as I was able to get Fling.
sorry just don't really count that as evidence that you have general cantrip knowledge, something has to be wrong on your end or your just stupidly unlucky.
I'd go fiddle around the underworld if I were you just to make sure, maybe you learned it and something happened that caused you to unlearn it?
_______________________
It is impossible to strive for the heroic life. The title of hero is bestowed by the survivors upon the fallen, who themselves know nothing of heroism.
-Johan Huizinga
The Light is Crimson through the Darkness.
sorry just don't really count that as evidence that you have general cantrip knowledge, something has to be wrong on your end or your just stupidly unlucky.
I'd go fiddle around the underworld if I were you just to make sure, maybe you learned it and something happened that caused you to unlearn it?
_______________________
It is impossible to strive for the heroic life. The title of hero is bestowed by the survivors upon the fallen, who themselves know nothing of heroism.
-Johan Huizinga
The Light is Crimson through the Darkness.
>>sorry just don't really count that as evidence that you have general cantrip knowledge,
Well, I did definitely go and learn it. I suppose I could check to see if I "unlearned" it, but that seems a bit odd to me...
GERSTEINJ2, thanks for your notes. My scholarship is far above the 120s. The only spell that's on both those lists that I am missing is Dinazen Olkar. Could it be a requirement?
-- Player of Eyuve
Well, I did definitely go and learn it. I suppose I could check to see if I "unlearned" it, but that seems a bit odd to me...
GERSTEINJ2, thanks for your notes. My scholarship is far above the 120s. The only spell that's on both those lists that I am missing is Dinazen Olkar. Could it be a requirement?
-- Player of Eyuve
yeah, burn is the only "spell" req for the "scorch" or "label" cantrip. my only mm with that one resides in TF.
there had been a cantrip that you could get <fling> as an unsected, and it later changed so you could get it even if you joined a sect.
One way you can tell if you need to get general cantrip knowledge, would be to go to your sect representative <if you are a member of a sect> to ask about cantrips, they will tell you if you are "missing" general cantrip knowledge without having to make a journey down there...
<i hate death spirits. that can attack from pole when you're in RT in water.... I really do....>
/---
Oh and last one, DR at any given time has a population of weenies that will criticize at the drop of a hat, don't take things personally it happens to everyone.
Leucius
there had been a cantrip that you could get <fling> as an unsected, and it later changed so you could get it even if you joined a sect.
One way you can tell if you need to get general cantrip knowledge, would be to go to your sect representative <if you are a member of a sect> to ask about cantrips, they will tell you if you are "missing" general cantrip knowledge without having to make a journey down there...
<i hate death spirits. that can attack from pole when you're in RT in water.... I really do....>
/---
Oh and last one, DR at any given time has a population of weenies that will criticize at the drop of a hat, don't take things personally it happens to everyone.
Leucius
I know when i got it it took awhile, and I had put up CV, and Seers. I'm not sure whether I had also done a lore prediction on myself as well.
/---
Oh and last one, DR at any given time has a population of weenies that will criticize at the drop of a hat, don't take things personally it happens to everyone.
Leucius
/---
Oh and last one, DR at any given time has a population of weenies that will criticize at the drop of a hat, don't take things personally it happens to everyone.
Leucius
