Though it is a quest, is a spell slot still required to learn SLS? As in, can you learn it by just doing the quest, or does the quest only give you access to learning it through Kssarh (or whoever)?

You have to have a spell slot open for both SLS and Shadewatch Mirror. They require both a quest and a spell slot.

I've noticed that when I use MB and SLS together sometimes something weird happens. Here's an example.

Normally my sphere misses on bargs, except for an occaisional lucky hit. This is what happens on a normal miss:

The air takes on a sudden chill as a pulsating pale grey sphere flares and rushes at a hulking black barghest!
The hulking black barghest manages to get out of the way of the pale grey sphere!


They need to be stunned, off balance, or unconscious for me to hit them consistently. Usually I use MB to accomplish this. But when I time the MB to just before the sphere strikes, this happens:

cast barg
You gesture at a hulking black barghest.
A hulking black barghest jerks its head and grimaces.
Roundtime: 2 seconds
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The air takes on a sudden chill as a pulsating pale grey sphere flares and rushes at a hulking black barghest!
The pale grey sphere misses!

Why does it miss when it usually hits on a stun? It happens with too much regularity for me to chalk it up to luck. Also, the different messaging leads me to believe something else is going on. Anyone have any ideas?

Offense is at 100%, and the only time the general "miss" happens is immediately after a non-sleeping MB.

NOt really sure how these things work to tell you the truth but I was thinking that perhaps the "roll" of damage for SLS was taken a split second before you cast MB so that SLS didn't recognize the effects of the MB if that made any sense


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You gesture at a sand sprite.
Its head soars through the air as its neck is entirely destroyed!
A sand sprite slowly falls to the ground, moaning in despair, shuddering in pain before taking her last breath.

What are you alls favorate constellation with which to use SLS? And why? I am trying to get a sense of what some of the better ones are and their advantages and disadvantages...

Also, if you cast SLS in water room, you die? or just take nerve damange? What happens if you cast it during the day? It just fails? What if you cast and then walk into a water room?

Thanks

>>What are you alls favorate constellation with which to use SLS? And why? I am trying to get a sense of what some of the better ones are and their advantages and disadvantages...

I like whatever suits my fancy at the time. But generally I cast on Ram. ::shrug:: I've never tested the efficiency of the different constellations, I'm sure someone has more info on that.

>>Also, if you cast SLS in water room, you die? or just take nerve damange? What if you cast and then walk into a water room?

I've never cast it in a water room but have mistakenly walked into one with the sphere in tow. It fizzles and sends a nasty jolt doing nerve damage, sometimes pretty severe, and makes your hair stand on end (figuratively).

>>What happens if you cast it during the day? It just fails?

Exactly, if fails. It tries to form but can't.

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Pol-i-tics (pol-i-tiks) n. 1. "Poli" meaning many. 2. "Tics" meaning blood-sucking insects.

I've always had a fondness for the spider when I've used SLS.

~Tykyra~

I like the welkin cause it's perrty.


Zelaide

You can get rid of it by <release sphere> or <break sphere> or something along those lines. I forget which exactly.



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Also, I can shoot bees.

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Another effect of constellation is whether they work against undead. The last time I went up against undead I ended up using Spider.

I haven't hunted undead for a while, and I don't remember all of the details. If I remember correctly, a lot of our offensive spells work against undead if you pump in a little extra mana. If I remember correctly, this didn't work with SLS. Some constelations didn't seem to work against undead no matter how much mana I put into it.

SLS acts no differently then any of our other spells against undead. It doesnt work against non corporeal, and you need above minimum prep to effect other undead.


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Mongoose works best in my experience. It's super fast and hits very hard. The problem is that it's not out all year round. I did some testing at one point and found myself quite happy with magpie, which is always out. It's slower than mongoose, though, so when mongoose is up that's what I use.

Amaldur Ypress

Colorwise I like the shrew, Rigby made a change shortly after that made the spheres abit more inline with eachother so it doesn't matter too with which constellation it uses, I personally use the magpie.

Odd point in trivia there was actually signficantly more difference in damage/accuracy before magic 2.0 but it also didn't do barely any damage at all. Its accuracy rate was insanely high however. The mongoose was extremely weak and the Centaur was the strongest of all. Was the only sphere at the time that could actually kill an adan'f effectively. Its power/acc scheme is completely different now but it has made it a much better spell.


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The shadows on the wall indeed ran long across the room during the late hours of the afternoon.

Excellent Post. Though I think the original poster was looking for some ideas to tell if a room is a water room before they actually walked in.

Also, I really like Starlight Sphere, it is killer and teaches Target like woah. Though there are a lot of limitations with the night time and no water thing, but it works wonders for me.


Rilely Strings
Progeny of Tezirah

>>Doesn't let you learn other magics in combat unless you cast it a bunch or are using it with other spells.

And, on the flip side of that, you can learn great PM outside of combat with it, unlike the other two fourth-tier spells. I see SLS as a niche combat spell - it's great for us lazy types who prefer to avoid melee and are out of combat more often than not. If that's not your style, you might consider one of the other two spells.

Also try 'appraise water'

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You gingerly touch a gaunt shadow master. The only good master is a dead master!

I prefer to use the Spider myself. I find in addition to packing a mean punch, it's also quite fast and accurate. That and the Phoenix.


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