I made my main sword into my holy weapon, hoping I could use it all the time.
Even though I recharge the weapon, with daily hunting I can never get the sword working again. I constantly get the "you should charge your sword more before being able to use it" message when I use renew.
What is the point of having a holy weapon if we can't even use it on a daily basis? This is a pretty big perk of the guild. I think there needs to be a change so that we can actually use the weapon on a daily basis.
The idea of holy weapon is cool, but it needs to be tweaked so it isn't something that we only bring out during special occasions.
I think making the sword recharge off of soul state similar to how smite works and dropping glyph of renew completely would be a good way to fix holy weapon.
I know this isn't an urgent matter, but many paladins don't even bother doing the holy weapon quest because of all the detriments tacked onto the holy weapon. It turns your sword from what should be a very cool and fun paladin tool into a pain in the ass.
Thanks for listening.
-Mr. Glemm
Constant Dead Weapon on 07/02/2009 09:28 AM CDT
Re: Constant Dead Weapon on 07/02/2009 03:30 PM CDT
<<What is the point of having a holy weapon if we can't even use it on a daily basis? >>
What makes you think it was designed to be used on a daily basis? What makes you think the designers intent has anything to do with the results? Why else would the GMs release a weapon buff spell that didnt work with swappable weapons? They didnt intend that blunder, it just happened that way despite the years spent in development when somebody could have spent an hour or so testing the spell on every store bought weapon in the game but didnt.
The recharge point in crossing has been broken for years. That speaks volumes about how unimportant paladins and holy weapons are. Also says a lot about the pali GMs.
I think holy weapons are more fluff than weapon. I keep mine in the vault. I pull it out every few circles or when i train my charisma to max out the charge or cause I feel like participating in an invasion. After that back in the vault next to the folding chair and my other fluff weapons.
AKA Rumael
What makes you think it was designed to be used on a daily basis? What makes you think the designers intent has anything to do with the results? Why else would the GMs release a weapon buff spell that didnt work with swappable weapons? They didnt intend that blunder, it just happened that way despite the years spent in development when somebody could have spent an hour or so testing the spell on every store bought weapon in the game but didnt.
The recharge point in crossing has been broken for years. That speaks volumes about how unimportant paladins and holy weapons are. Also says a lot about the pali GMs.
I think holy weapons are more fluff than weapon. I keep mine in the vault. I pull it out every few circles or when i train my charisma to max out the charge or cause I feel like participating in an invasion. After that back in the vault next to the folding chair and my other fluff weapons.
AKA Rumael
Re: Constant Dead Weapon on 07/02/2009 03:40 PM CDT
Re: Constant Dead Weapon on 07/02/2009 04:01 PM CDT
Re: Constant Dead Weapon on 07/02/2009 04:03 PM CDT
haha wow.
That being said I'm closing in on being able to obtain one. I've made no plans to do so, nor have i been excited about any glyph or ability based on circle after the glyph of mana, which i use a ton.
This is pretty much been the binary opposite of any other guild i've played to a upper circle: barbs, warmies, traders, moonies, thieves, rangers.
Never cared for clerics or bards or puffs.
That being said I'm closing in on being able to obtain one. I've made no plans to do so, nor have i been excited about any glyph or ability based on circle after the glyph of mana, which i use a ton.
This is pretty much been the binary opposite of any other guild i've played to a upper circle: barbs, warmies, traders, moonies, thieves, rangers.
Never cared for clerics or bards or puffs.
Re: Constant Dead Weapon on 07/02/2009 05:31 PM CDT
<<The idea of holy weapon is cool, but it needs to be tweaked so it isn't something that we only bring out during special occasions.>>
<<I think making the sword recharge off of soul state similar to how smite works and dropping glyph of renew completely would be a good way to fix holy weapon.>>
I agree with that idea.
- Simon
<<I think making the sword recharge off of soul state similar to how smite works and dropping glyph of renew completely would be a good way to fix holy weapon.>>
I agree with that idea.
- Simon
Re: Constant Dead Weapon on 07/02/2009 05:36 PM CDT
Re: Constant Dead Weapon on 07/03/2009 01:51 AM CDT
When you run all the charges out on a holy weapon... you have to renew it twice to have full charge again...
When you renew the weapon, if you drained it completely, you will only infuse it with one strike worth of holiness, a second renew is required to then charge the weapon. the first time after completely draining it is to make the "vessel"(weapon) ready to be charged. The second renew then fills it up.
The idea is to not swing the thing willy nilly and run it out completely... pay attention and stop using it before you drain it completely... and you will find you can use it much more.
If you train Charisma, you will be able to use it MUCH longer. Circle helps a lot with this too... I use my holy weapon for nearly 500 strikes before its faintly glowing now and I need to start watching it closely.
Holy weapon is a very powerful boost to a weapon. It is a choice that should be made with much thought and considerance of the future.
I ALWAYS have my Holy weapon with me...
PLEASE GM Dartenian... allow exemption from the penalty applied to using non shield friendly weapons with a shield for holy weapons.
When you renew the weapon, if you drained it completely, you will only infuse it with one strike worth of holiness, a second renew is required to then charge the weapon. the first time after completely draining it is to make the "vessel"(weapon) ready to be charged. The second renew then fills it up.
The idea is to not swing the thing willy nilly and run it out completely... pay attention and stop using it before you drain it completely... and you will find you can use it much more.
If you train Charisma, you will be able to use it MUCH longer. Circle helps a lot with this too... I use my holy weapon for nearly 500 strikes before its faintly glowing now and I need to start watching it closely.
Holy weapon is a very powerful boost to a weapon. It is a choice that should be made with much thought and considerance of the future.
I ALWAYS have my Holy weapon with me...
PLEASE GM Dartenian... allow exemption from the penalty applied to using non shield friendly weapons with a shield for holy weapons.
Re: Constant Dead Weapon on 07/03/2009 02:10 AM CDT
Re: Constant Dead Weapon on 07/03/2009 05:59 PM CDT
<<The idea is to not swing the thing willy nilly and run it out completely... pay attention and stop using it before you drain it completely... and you will find you can use it much more.>>
I understand this.
I'm petitioning for holy weapon to be something we can use "willy nilly". It wouldn't be overpowered in any way, it would just give us a sword that we can use to kill undead that makes cool "sounds" in the game when you use it.
After all, our brawling attacks are already holy all the time. Why couldn't our weapons benefit from this.
Thanks for your input.
-Mr. Glemm
I understand this.
I'm petitioning for holy weapon to be something we can use "willy nilly". It wouldn't be overpowered in any way, it would just give us a sword that we can use to kill undead that makes cool "sounds" in the game when you use it.
After all, our brawling attacks are already holy all the time. Why couldn't our weapons benefit from this.
Thanks for your input.
-Mr. Glemm
Re: Constant Dead Weapon on 07/04/2009 02:15 AM CDT
Re: Constant Dead Weapon on 07/07/2009 10:24 AM CDT
<<I'm petitioning for holy weapon to be something we can use "willy nilly". It wouldn't be overpowered in any way, it would just give us a sword that we can use to kill undead that makes cool "sounds" in the game when you use it.
<<After all, our brawling attacks are already holy all the time. Why couldn't our weapons benefit from this.
/agree
In addition, if a holy weapon continues to perform as defined by posts on this board, I will not bother questing for the weapon. I'll just get it blessed by a cleric. I really feel a permanent bless is in order for these weapons.
Just a little feedback from one player to GMs concerning my thoughts on Paladin Holy Weapons.
Khohan
<<After all, our brawling attacks are already holy all the time. Why couldn't our weapons benefit from this.
/agree
In addition, if a holy weapon continues to perform as defined by posts on this board, I will not bother questing for the weapon. I'll just get it blessed by a cleric. I really feel a permanent bless is in order for these weapons.
Just a little feedback from one player to GMs concerning my thoughts on Paladin Holy Weapons.
Khohan
Re: Constant Dead Weapon on 07/07/2009 10:48 AM CDT
Re: Constant Dead Weapon on 07/07/2009 12:22 PM CDT
Make them easier to recharge, less needing of recharges, or some mixture of the two.
Icons would help but those seem dead in the water. Sadly, that describes just about everything paladin.
More recharge points would be the bigger help. Spending 5 minutes recharging a weapon doesnt bother me. Its the trip to the recharge point that really wastes my time. Youd think there was one point in every guildhall or at least every province.
I dont understand why the crossing recharge spot is still broken after all these years. Why spend years failing to fix it when you could cut your losses and move it to another spot on the temple grounds? Or the crossing pali guild?
Up side of the GMs insistence on not fixing the recharge point is its a good indicator of where the pali guild falls in the scheme of things. Way down at the bottom.
AKA Rumael
Icons would help but those seem dead in the water. Sadly, that describes just about everything paladin.
More recharge points would be the bigger help. Spending 5 minutes recharging a weapon doesnt bother me. Its the trip to the recharge point that really wastes my time. Youd think there was one point in every guildhall or at least every province.
I dont understand why the crossing recharge spot is still broken after all these years. Why spend years failing to fix it when you could cut your losses and move it to another spot on the temple grounds? Or the crossing pali guild?
Up side of the GMs insistence on not fixing the recharge point is its a good indicator of where the pali guild falls in the scheme of things. Way down at the bottom.
AKA Rumael
Re: Constant Dead Weapon on 07/07/2009 12:41 PM CDT
Re: Constant Dead Weapon on 07/07/2009 01:07 PM CDT
It seems unfair to force the player to monitor the weapon closely or face a punitive mechanic (the double recharge thing).
I guess my real question would be, why is a holy weapon depleted when fighting undead?
In my mind it would be more logical (and useful) if your holy weapon had a small bonus on it (similar to rue) that was in effect as long as your sword was charged. Fighting undead would recharge the sword.
I guess my real question would be, why is a holy weapon depleted when fighting undead?
In my mind it would be more logical (and useful) if your holy weapon had a small bonus on it (similar to rue) that was in effect as long as your sword was charged. Fighting undead would recharge the sword.
Re: Constant Dead Weapon on 07/07/2009 03:37 PM CDT
>>With the current limitations on holy weapons, I have not obtained one as of yet with my character. Not trying to pile on here, but merely giving the PTB some feedback on the situation.
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Re: Constant Dead Weapon on 07/07/2009 03:56 PM CDT
Re: Constant Dead Weapon on 07/08/2009 01:13 PM CDT