My going against the grain in trying to turn unforsaken philosophers towards redemption... and steer people away from mindless slaughter of ignorant youths is a move that could be charicterized by some as "dark" in intent.

Dark and Light... Not so much a "class" or "path" but a label... Armifer was defining what "Dark Paladin" means in DR. Much like he and others have for the differant types of Necromancers. Some labels are indeed resultant of action but others are symbolic of demeanor and intent.

Being a Dark Paladin in DR means placing your personal judgement above those your Guild would require you to heed to... and understanding that in doing so, your actions can potentially diminish or even extinguish the conduit between your soul and the powers granted to us by the Divine(and get you into trouble with the guild as well.) Our guild attempts to lay down a code of conduct that ensures this conduit remains open fully. At least... that is how it would seem our current guild's heirarchy and the rules they have applied are attempting to do... this is my understanding of Armifer's post and could be wrong

Although, if fear of losing some of your ability to manipulate the Flow and channel holy powers causes you to take a different course of action other then what your conscence would dictate... I'd consider you something less then "Paladin." Of course... if you would think it rightous to do what I would consider evil... I'd likely consider you a proponent of corruption and possibly feel dutybound to act in some way to stop you.

The way I see it... what we all face is the possibility of someone or a group of someones attempting to define standards of being a "Paladin" in a way that has allowed them to decieve us and through that manipulation, potentially control those of us who have been touched by the Divine. Another possibility is that someone or a group of someones is afraid of us realizing our true potentials as Holy Warriors for some reason and is working through devious ways to curtail our advancement. If eithor is true it is unacceptable to me and demands my involvement to halt this assault against the rightous by the corrupted.

I however will remain vigilant and reserve judgement, understanding that those who we suspect are wrongdoers could themselves be being misled... much like the naive commoner who is lured by a Necrolord into corruption with promises of God-rivaling power. I will allow noone to control me... I am beyond manipulation... I am a Paladin. Dark and Light are labels that do not apply to me and my choices... I will always choose to act as my conscence dictates... If that seems "dark" to you... that is simply your limited understanding of what true rightousness is... this last statement is not meant to lessen the idealism of dark and light paladins... only to show that a character need not label themself... although their actions may get them labeled by others

Once I am assured of some wrong done and of who done it... Woe to thee who would act against my breatheren... through my tempered soul I will channel the wrath of the Gods... and you and your foul plottings shall most certainly be undone.

That would probably be the best explanation/definition to date. Not all Paladins RP or even like the "white-knight" scenario. Probably why Darius, in his own words, called the Emerald Knights a "dark lot", and Comander Fenhalut giving his summary of the emerald Knights, which he commands: they see something that must be done, and they just do it. This style of thinking i've pretty much had my Paladin on since day one. Does this make me evil? No. I don't kill or striek first without a DAMN good reason, i take squires under my wing and still teach them the core of being a Paladin: Faith, truth, justice, and honor. I also teach them not to twiddle their thumbs in fear of a soul hit. Forget the author, but this quote sums it up the best: "All that is needed for evil to exist, is for good men to sit and do nothing"


Regards,
Emerald Knight Penderrin

P.S.,
Where's the cookies!?!?!?

While I do hope more of our spells and abilities reflect the state of our soul in their visual effects... I do hope the terms "Dark" and "light" are not aspects we must choose from... only reflections and definers of our beliefs and action.

It would be neat though to have our spell effects and abilities have more options of visual effect without tanking our soul too though... Mayhaps in the choosing of an Avatar of our faith our spells and abilities would reflect the nature of the Godly aspect... It would be a creative challenge, but what a great contest it could be to write up some spell/ability effects with this idea in mind. It would also be a great quest to earn your ability to become a champion of an immortal and another to change the immortal for whom you champion for. Although I could see something simple like some divotional act with a altar of a diety allowing for that change after the quest to grant access to the ability is completed. Choosing an Aspect that granted spell/ability visuals aiding in RP would likely fuel peoples' desire to play their Paladins more as well...

Some effects could reflect the light, dark or neutral aspect of your Avatar lessoning the burdan of coming up with 39 differant effects for every spell and ability... while some spells and abilities could have more specific visual result for certain Aspects.

Too bad Dokes got framed. He was a true follower of Chadatru.


-Mr. Glemm

That was Profesie back in the old days. Halting traders so Ann could rob them. Good times.


-Mr. Glemm

>>Who hasn't done this?<<

You.


~Silus
Banner first, ask questions later.

""if successful Paladins are defined by responsibility, then a successful Dark Paladin is defined by a willingness to accept the punishment for his actions. A murderer and a Paladin may both strike a man dead for his sins, regardless of what the law says, but what defines the Paladin's ethic is he will then stand and accept responsibility for his action. Sometimes it is as simple and painless as a murder fine, but often enough the contrived web of ethics and perceived necessity drive the Dark Paladin to bitter ends, exile, and acts of unmourned sacrifice that would cause their more romantic, honor-focused brothers to weep.""

I've been playing a dark paladin all along and didn't know it.

>>You are so wrong. The stories I could tell.<<

I was apart of the Riverhaven Ferry Gang too. Believe me?????

~Silus
Banner first, ask questions later.

<<I was apart of the Riverhaven Ferry Gang too. Believe me?????

I don't recall Silus being involved. There were a few attemps at that, beyond the original, so it's not beyond possibility. I didn't think you really cared about IC stuff beyond sparring TBQH, So I would say no, I don't believe you.

And I didn't mean to imply that I played Loqutis that way, as opposed to what Slaris has done in the past. For the sake of that discussion, the player is the same, the characters may not be.

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Let Lyras win.

<<There have been plenty of Paladins who have gone down paths the guild has frowned upon. Some Paladins were even fighting against the Paladin Guild and Cleric guilds.>>

Thank you, Taghz. Your insight is always appreciated.


-Mr. Glemm

To my knowledge there was only one gang- the one with Makavelis, Virbius, etc.


-Mr. Glemm

<<>>To my knowledge there was only one gang- the one with Makavelis, Virbius, etc.

The good old days...