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Hmm. My little baby ranger is down by 1 circle... barely. I better get cracking!
-Evran
"Constitutions are meant to protect minorities -- not to take rights away from people." - Bruce Bastian
Woot!
~Hanryu Ves'Shomis
Sword of House Calibanor, Emerald Knight, Keeper of the CEC, Ranger
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55/7/5 - 30 days
~Hanryu Ves'Shomis
Sword of House Calibanor, Emerald Knight, Keeper of the CEC, Ranger
http://drplat.com/CombatEquipmentCompendium.xls
55/7/5 - 30 days
Can all survivals be used for any of the nth survival requirements... i.e. lockpicking or stealing?
The Prydaen word for Woman is Yif.
That explains a lot.
Lots more stuff coming 'Soon'!
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Supreme Bunny Overlord Zairius
The Prydaen word for Woman is Yif.
That explains a lot.
Lots more stuff coming 'Soon'!
http://www.zairius.com
Supreme Bunny Overlord Zairius
Oh yeah I updated New Ranger to have these reqs, I think, I didn't really bug test it.
The Prydaen word for Woman is Yif.
That explains a lot.
Lots more stuff coming 'Soon'!
http://www.zairius.com
Supreme Bunny Overlord Zairius
The Prydaen word for Woman is Yif.
That explains a lot.
Lots more stuff coming 'Soon'!
http://www.zairius.com
Supreme Bunny Overlord Zairius
>>Yes, all survivals will be valid options (Except Backstab, duh).
>>-Z
My ranger has backstab ranks. :P
~Terc~
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>>-Z
My ranger has backstab ranks. :P
~Terc~
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Hmm.. looks like a little different than what I was working from, but works out for the better! At least I think... so how long before someone smarter than me plugs this final summary into a cirlc calculator so I can be sure? ;)
Yay, thank you for the information.
Waveshell <-- not a math person...
Yay, thank you for the information.
Waveshell <-- not a math person...
Gee, only 2 more survival ranks to go up 6 circles? And 58 survival ranks to go up a total of 10 circles?
Oh, the utter unfairness of it all...the end of the guild and all that... ;-)
Much thanks, Zeyurn. It'll really be nice for a casual player like myself to circle more than once or twice per year.
Shendorian
Oh, the utter unfairness of it all...the end of the guild and all that... ;-)
Much thanks, Zeyurn. It'll really be nice for a casual player like myself to circle more than once or twice per year.
Shendorian
<<So, Skinning is now finalized to be a hard survivial fixed requirement for rangers. When is this skill going to be fixed for us? Is it going to happen before these new requirements go into effect?
The fixed skinning requirement is hardly large. Much smaller than the primary weapon req which means if you hunt skinnable creatures with any degree of regularity, you'll be able to meet the skinning hard reqs in your sleep.
If your argument is that skinning is in your top two or even top four and you want to keep it there to avoid massive amounts of backtraining a replacement skill, it would sound less like an excuse to whine about the messed up skinning skill.
-Evran
"Constitutions are meant to protect minorities -- not to take rights away from people." - Bruce Bastian
The fixed skinning requirement is hardly large. Much smaller than the primary weapon req which means if you hunt skinnable creatures with any degree of regularity, you'll be able to meet the skinning hard reqs in your sleep.
If your argument is that skinning is in your top two or even top four and you want to keep it there to avoid massive amounts of backtraining a replacement skill, it would sound less like an excuse to whine about the messed up skinning skill.
-Evran
"Constitutions are meant to protect minorities -- not to take rights away from people." - Bruce Bastian
<<The fixed skinning requirement is hardly large. Much smaller than the primary weapon req which means if you hunt skinnable creatures with any degree of regularity, you'll be able to meet the skinning hard reqs in your sleep>>
I think he told you to go afk script. BAD!!!
Oh anyways skinning is trainable, just difficult to do so. It should be easier, but I don't see why it wouldn't be a hard req for rangers.
"So like I said, don't take it personally. All cultures have their share of fools. It's just that we always felt yours had a lot more than ours."
~~Warrior Mage Guild Leader Senfrislor, The Prydaen in Their Own Words~~
I think he told you to go afk script. BAD!!!
Oh anyways skinning is trainable, just difficult to do so. It should be easier, but I don't see why it wouldn't be a hard req for rangers.
"So like I said, don't take it personally. All cultures have their share of fools. It's just that we always felt yours had a lot more than ours."
~~Warrior Mage Guild Leader Senfrislor, The Prydaen in Their Own Words~~
I wasn't really making excuses or whining. You should re-read the question, because you seemed to have missed the fact entirely that in was indeed two very simple questions. The reason why i ask is because i find it odd that the new requirements now mandate skinning as one of our core skills, yet the ability for us to learn that core skill is broken. And broken only for us.
I made no reference to primary weapons reqs nor did i make an argument in any way towards a skillset. Try re-reading my post one more time more slowly..
I made no reference to primary weapons reqs nor did i make an argument in any way towards a skillset. Try re-reading my post one more time more slowly..
<<The reason why i ask is because i find it odd that the new requirements now mandate skinning as one of our core skills, yet the ability for us to learn that core skill is broken. And broken only for us.
<<I made no reference to primary weapons reqs
The ability to learn skinning at the level required to meet the hard reqs is not broken taken in the context of all the other reqs. This is where your logic fails. In the process of meeting the weapon requirement alone, a ranger that even makes a token effort at skinning things will easily meet the hard req for skinning. This is what makes your connection between 'skinning is broken' and 'we shouldn't have a hard req in it yet' invalid. If the hard requirement was much higher, then you'd have a valid argument.
<<nor did i make an argument in any way towards a skillset.
Neither did I.
<<Try re-reading my post one more time more slowly..
I understood your post just fine. I am saying your questions have no validity given the context you put them in. Skinning is definitely not where it should be, especially for rangers that train it amongst their top survivals, but to claim that a low, easy to meet hard req shouldn't exist because of that makes no sense.
-Evran
"Constitutions are meant to protect minorities -- not to take rights away from people." - Bruce Bastian
<<I made no reference to primary weapons reqs
The ability to learn skinning at the level required to meet the hard reqs is not broken taken in the context of all the other reqs. This is where your logic fails. In the process of meeting the weapon requirement alone, a ranger that even makes a token effort at skinning things will easily meet the hard req for skinning. This is what makes your connection between 'skinning is broken' and 'we shouldn't have a hard req in it yet' invalid. If the hard requirement was much higher, then you'd have a valid argument.
<<nor did i make an argument in any way towards a skillset.
Neither did I.
<<Try re-reading my post one more time more slowly..
I understood your post just fine. I am saying your questions have no validity given the context you put them in. Skinning is definitely not where it should be, especially for rangers that train it amongst their top survivals, but to claim that a low, easy to meet hard req shouldn't exist because of that makes no sense.
-Evran
"Constitutions are meant to protect minorities -- not to take rights away from people." - Bruce Bastian
Eeeenteresting.
I'm still a combined 300+ ranks and 35 circles down, but all in survivals 6, 7, and 8.
5 ranks in Scouting (6th survival)
130 ranks in Swimming (7th survival)
171 ranks in Foraging (8th survival)
Maybe when Dart releases the new climbing he was talking about I'll think about leaving combat... then again, I doubt it.
-Vision et al
Also, I can shoot bees.
I'm still a combined 300+ ranks and 35 circles down, but all in survivals 6, 7, and 8.
5 ranks in Scouting (6th survival)
130 ranks in Swimming (7th survival)
171 ranks in Foraging (8th survival)
Maybe when Dart releases the new climbing he was talking about I'll think about leaving combat... then again, I doubt it.
-Vision et al
Also, I can shoot bees.
<<I didn't see that in his post. He asked when skinning was going to be fixed.
<<So, Skinning is now finalized to be a hard survivial fixed requirement for rangers. When is this skill going to be fixed for us? Is it going to happen before these new requirements go into effect?
<<The reason why i ask is because i find it odd that the new requirements now mandate skinning as one of our core skills, yet the ability for us to learn that core skill is broken.
It was strongly implied, especially given the context in which it was framed in his first post and further clarified in his second post. Perhaps I should have paraphrased it as 'shouldn't exist yet' instead, or rather 'why is there a hard req before skinning is fixed?' The direct question of when its going to be fixed is on its own an entirely valid one, but the skinning hard requirement has no bearing on it.
-Evran
"Constitutions are meant to protect minorities -- not to take rights away from people." - Bruce Bastian
<<So, Skinning is now finalized to be a hard survivial fixed requirement for rangers. When is this skill going to be fixed for us? Is it going to happen before these new requirements go into effect?
<<The reason why i ask is because i find it odd that the new requirements now mandate skinning as one of our core skills, yet the ability for us to learn that core skill is broken.
It was strongly implied, especially given the context in which it was framed in his first post and further clarified in his second post. Perhaps I should have paraphrased it as 'shouldn't exist yet' instead, or rather 'why is there a hard req before skinning is fixed?' The direct question of when its going to be fixed is on its own an entirely valid one, but the skinning hard requirement has no bearing on it.
-Evran
"Constitutions are meant to protect minorities -- not to take rights away from people." - Bruce Bastian
Good stuff. Won't have to worry about Yuoree terrorizing the 100th and under brackets anymore. +1 for Z.
Vinjince
"There are five possible operations for any army. If you can fight, fight; if you cannot fight, defend; if you cannot defend, flee; if you cannot flee, surrender; if you cannot surrender, die."
- Sima Yi
Vinjince
"There are five possible operations for any army. If you can fight, fight; if you cannot fight, defend; if you cannot defend, flee; if you cannot flee, surrender; if you cannot surrender, die."
- Sima Yi
<<Skinning will be fixed but I don't know if it'll make it for this year.
What about that tweak to exp idea that was being tossed around as a quick patch before the whole new skinning system comes out. Will that make it or is that what you're talking about already?
- Player of Foresee
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What about that tweak to exp idea that was being tossed around as a quick patch before the whole new skinning system comes out. Will that make it or is that what you're talking about already?
- Player of Foresee
Ingredients: 100% real emotion
>I have like 5 projects that are 80-90% done but the last bit is going to take longer than the rest of it did.
As they say...
The first 90% of the work takes the first 90% of the time. The last 10% takes the other 90% of the time.
GM Lohkrian
"In art and dream may you proceed with abandon. In life may you proceed with balance and stealth."
As they say...
The first 90% of the work takes the first 90% of the time. The last 10% takes the other 90% of the time.
GM Lohkrian
"In art and dream may you proceed with abandon. In life may you proceed with balance and stealth."
Thanks Vison for actually addressing the question,
<<but to claim that a low, easy to meet hard req shouldn't exist because of that makes no sense.>>
I didn't imply anything, i dont believe i could have worded my question any differently. One of them is even a simple yes or no question. And the other one references time?Yet for some reason, you're trying to read between the lines. There is no hidden meaning here...i just find the situation odd and asked questions.
<<The ability to learn skinning at the level required to meet the hard reqs is not broken taken in the context of all the other reqs. This is where your logic fails. >>
I think you need to re-read what you said, and re-read again what i posted. I did not say that learning skinning at the required level was broken, i simply said that skinning was broken which it is. It is not functioning properly. The issue of making it with the new reqs or not was not brought up once by me, except by you. My logic is sound and you?re pulling ideas out of thin air, you're making implications and inferences when all it was, was a simple question.
<<This is what makes your connection between 'skinning is broken' and 'we shouldn't have a hard req in it yet' invalid.>>
Here, again you must re-read what you said and what i said previously. At no point did i say we should not have the hard req in yet. I said:
<<The reason why i ask is because i find it odd that the new requirements now mandate skinning as one of our core skills, yet the ability for us to learn that core skill is broken. And broken only for us.>>
This is indeed peculiar to me, and it is a valid point. We will be the only guild that has an actual requirement to learn skinning (regardless of the number of ranks or ease to gain those ranks) yet the learning process of the skill is broken and not functioning properly for our guild. This is also a fact, i suggest you re-think your argument as you are making implications yet again. I don?t know where you gathered I said the new reqs should not be in yet. Someone else needs to read for you, everyone else seems to understand me but you.
<<nor did i make an argument in any way towards a skillset. >
<<Neither did I.>>
But you did... right in your post, making the implication again..
<<I am saying your questions have no validity given the context you put them in.>>
<<If your argument is that skinning is in your top two or even top four and you want to keep it there to avoid massive amounts of backtraining a replacement skill, it would sound less like an excuse to whine about the messed up skinning skill.>>
I don't know where you were coming from with all this? I never mentioned backtraining, top skills or anything thereof. You saying my questions have no validity given the context, is indeed an argument. I didn?t put anything into context here. You are the one fabricating an outlandish context for what reason, I don?t know. It?s seriously over my head..
<<but to claim that a low, easy to meet hard req shouldn't exist because of that makes no sense.>>
I didn't imply anything, i dont believe i could have worded my question any differently. One of them is even a simple yes or no question. And the other one references time?Yet for some reason, you're trying to read between the lines. There is no hidden meaning here...i just find the situation odd and asked questions.
<<The ability to learn skinning at the level required to meet the hard reqs is not broken taken in the context of all the other reqs. This is where your logic fails. >>
I think you need to re-read what you said, and re-read again what i posted. I did not say that learning skinning at the required level was broken, i simply said that skinning was broken which it is. It is not functioning properly. The issue of making it with the new reqs or not was not brought up once by me, except by you. My logic is sound and you?re pulling ideas out of thin air, you're making implications and inferences when all it was, was a simple question.
<<This is what makes your connection between 'skinning is broken' and 'we shouldn't have a hard req in it yet' invalid.>>
Here, again you must re-read what you said and what i said previously. At no point did i say we should not have the hard req in yet. I said:
<<The reason why i ask is because i find it odd that the new requirements now mandate skinning as one of our core skills, yet the ability for us to learn that core skill is broken. And broken only for us.>>
This is indeed peculiar to me, and it is a valid point. We will be the only guild that has an actual requirement to learn skinning (regardless of the number of ranks or ease to gain those ranks) yet the learning process of the skill is broken and not functioning properly for our guild. This is also a fact, i suggest you re-think your argument as you are making implications yet again. I don?t know where you gathered I said the new reqs should not be in yet. Someone else needs to read for you, everyone else seems to understand me but you.
<<nor did i make an argument in any way towards a skillset. >
<<Neither did I.>>
But you did... right in your post, making the implication again..
<<I am saying your questions have no validity given the context you put them in.>>
<<If your argument is that skinning is in your top two or even top four and you want to keep it there to avoid massive amounts of backtraining a replacement skill, it would sound less like an excuse to whine about the messed up skinning skill.>>
I don't know where you were coming from with all this? I never mentioned backtraining, top skills or anything thereof. You saying my questions have no validity given the context, is indeed an argument. I didn?t put anything into context here. You are the one fabricating an outlandish context for what reason, I don?t know. It?s seriously over my head..
I also have backstab ranks! Thanks to the thief who held Zina hostage until he could get his teaching rank in. So do they count???
And thanks for letting us use stealing and lockpicking whoot!
Now I have just get 8 ranks of skinning to really be my circle as of now. So I better get cracking.
Thank you to all of you who helped me learn perception and first aid and got it up to snuff now.
Zinaca--runs off to find Darkscale to bug him into teaching her skinning--or Pfanston
And thanks for letting us use stealing and lockpicking whoot!
Now I have just get 8 ranks of skinning to really be my circle as of now. So I better get cracking.
Thank you to all of you who helped me learn perception and first aid and got it up to snuff now.
Zinaca--runs off to find Darkscale to bug him into teaching her skinning--or Pfanston
"Skinning will be fixed but I don't know if it'll make it for this year.
I have tons of projects and very little me. -Z "
If you can just make all things not currently skinnable scalpable and let that teach skinning and let us get scalp strings like fish strings to sell them to the tanner, then I will be happy to wait for the rest of skinning to be re-written.
--Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.--It's never just a game when you're winning.--There are nights when the wolves are silent and only the moon howls.--George Carlin
I have tons of projects and very little me. -Z "
If you can just make all things not currently skinnable scalpable and let that teach skinning and let us get scalp strings like fish strings to sell them to the tanner, then I will be happy to wait for the rest of skinning to be re-written.
--Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.--It's never just a game when you're winning.--There are nights when the wolves are silent and only the moon howls.--George Carlin
I can't tell you how happy I am to see that there are only 3 hard reqs now, and swimming isn't one of them.
IF there were 4 hard reqs I would have thought that the minimum requirement would have been misleading because the hard req requirement wouldn't have met the 7-8th survival requirment, which most ranger would have them at at the very least. Even though it is still a bit misleading, its way more doable with only 3.
Gimlias Minas-Tirith
Box Seller
The Dragon's Egg
http://www.thedragonsegg.net
"I won't learn anything - even if I arrange and try to skin it with a trader's caravan"
"Why don't you roleplay a character who is NOT retarded? ~Maje
IF there were 4 hard reqs I would have thought that the minimum requirement would have been misleading because the hard req requirement wouldn't have met the 7-8th survival requirment, which most ranger would have them at at the very least. Even though it is still a bit misleading, its way more doable with only 3.
Gimlias Minas-Tirith
Box Seller
The Dragon's Egg
http://www.thedragonsegg.net
"I won't learn anything - even if I arrange and try to skin it with a trader's caravan"
"Why don't you roleplay a character who is NOT retarded? ~Maje
<<Oh yeah I updated New Ranger to have these reqs, I think, I didn't really bug test it.
Have you included the hard req requirements in the formula yet?
Gimlias Minas-Tirith
Box Seller
The Dragon's Egg
http://www.thedragonsegg.net
"I won't learn anything - even if I arrange and try to skin it with a trader's caravan"
"Why don't you roleplay a character who is NOT retarded? ~Maje
Have you included the hard req requirements in the formula yet?
Gimlias Minas-Tirith
Box Seller
The Dragon's Egg
http://www.thedragonsegg.net
"I won't learn anything - even if I arrange and try to skin it with a trader's caravan"
"Why don't you roleplay a character who is NOT retarded? ~Maje
>Have you included the hard req requirements in the formula yet?
PAFO
The Prydaen word for Woman is Yif.
That explains a lot.
Lots more stuff coming 'Soon'!
http://www.zairius.com
Supreme Bunny Overlord Zairius
PAFO
The Prydaen word for Woman is Yif.
That explains a lot.
Lots more stuff coming 'Soon'!
http://www.zairius.com
Supreme Bunny Overlord Zairius
<<I didn't imply anything,
<<I didn?t put anything into context here.
No context? Then explain why your question about broken skinning is put in a thread about the new reqs immediately following your statement in the same paragraph that there is now a hard skinning requirement. You did not explicitly make the connection between the two, but reading between the lines is not hard.
Perhaps I'm just an outsider jaded by the complaining atmosphere of the Ranger boards. Most times that something new comes out or a change is made, within a couple posts someone is complaining about it or using it as a launching pad for a soapbox. And since I'm turning this into a different kind of soapbox myself, I'll end with this. /shrug
-Evran
"Constitutions are meant to protect minorities -- not to take rights away from people." - Bruce Bastian
<<I didn?t put anything into context here.
No context? Then explain why your question about broken skinning is put in a thread about the new reqs immediately following your statement in the same paragraph that there is now a hard skinning requirement. You did not explicitly make the connection between the two, but reading between the lines is not hard.
Perhaps I'm just an outsider jaded by the complaining atmosphere of the Ranger boards. Most times that something new comes out or a change is made, within a couple posts someone is complaining about it or using it as a launching pad for a soapbox. And since I'm turning this into a different kind of soapbox myself, I'll end with this. /shrug
-Evran
"Constitutions are meant to protect minorities -- not to take rights away from people." - Bruce Bastian
I worked at backtraining so that I would be caught up to my circle with new reqs. I finally did that, and with these final reqs i'm now jumping 10 circles. Pretty sweet. I also have enough skinning for the next 14.
Jalika
Moving carefully, you slip your hand into Ragran's pockets and carefully grab a platinum.
Roundtime: 2 sec.
Jalika
Moving carefully, you slip your hand into Ragran's pockets and carefully grab a platinum.
Roundtime: 2 sec.
<Then explain why your question about broken skinning is put in a thread about the new reqs immediately following your statement in the same paragraph that there is now a hard skinning requirement.>
The statement about skinning being broken is a fact. Merely an observation, and the statement about the new reqs now requiring skinning is also an observation.
<You did not explicitly make the connection between the two, but reading between the lines is not hard.>
Of course i didn't make a connection between the two, because that wasn't what i was going for. No one else seems to have made the connection based on my dialouge either. And you're reading between the lines for some hidden meaning, when there is none. Theres no motivation behind my questioning besides a curiosity based on an observation, its a very simple stand alone observation, nothing more.
If you're jaded perhaps i can understand where you're coming from, but its misplaced here. I never, ever, post on here, except for the rare BUG. I'm not complaining, or making excuses, or trying to launch something. I really thought i was being very straight forward and clear with my questions.
The statement about skinning being broken is a fact. Merely an observation, and the statement about the new reqs now requiring skinning is also an observation.
<You did not explicitly make the connection between the two, but reading between the lines is not hard.>
Of course i didn't make a connection between the two, because that wasn't what i was going for. No one else seems to have made the connection based on my dialouge either. And you're reading between the lines for some hidden meaning, when there is none. Theres no motivation behind my questioning besides a curiosity based on an observation, its a very simple stand alone observation, nothing more.
If you're jaded perhaps i can understand where you're coming from, but its misplaced here. I never, ever, post on here, except for the rare BUG. I'm not complaining, or making excuses, or trying to launch something. I really thought i was being very straight forward and clear with my questions.
Skinning is trainable, just that it's not working right, so it's like someone used duct tape on it to hold it together for way way too long.
I would be screaming if it were not trainable at all. So, instead, I'm joking about needing more ways to train skinning.
Actually, we already did get that. We are now able to scrape fish. This has helped a good deal surprisingly, because I can just sit on a dock in the wilds after doing my boxes and skins and fish for a while, working my foraging, animal lore, mech lore, and skinning.
The only things that would make this more viable for rangers would be if we had a few more such places and could make our hooks, lines, and bait. This would help make the primary problem with skinning less painful.
I'm hopeful that a few of the rooms whose wild status was fixed included rooms where I can fish. I'm not sure why I can't braid grass and get line with enough mech lore and why I can't shape or carve a fish bone and get a hook or why I can't clean a fish and get bait, but I am assuming that these would have to wait for crafting changes to go in.
I get the feeling that the primary problem with skinning is rather difficult to fix.
--Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.--It's never just a game when you're winning.--There are nights when the wolves are silent and only the moon howls.--George Carlin
I would be screaming if it were not trainable at all. So, instead, I'm joking about needing more ways to train skinning.
Actually, we already did get that. We are now able to scrape fish. This has helped a good deal surprisingly, because I can just sit on a dock in the wilds after doing my boxes and skins and fish for a while, working my foraging, animal lore, mech lore, and skinning.
The only things that would make this more viable for rangers would be if we had a few more such places and could make our hooks, lines, and bait. This would help make the primary problem with skinning less painful.
I'm hopeful that a few of the rooms whose wild status was fixed included rooms where I can fish. I'm not sure why I can't braid grass and get line with enough mech lore and why I can't shape or carve a fish bone and get a hook or why I can't clean a fish and get bait, but I am assuming that these would have to wait for crafting changes to go in.
I get the feeling that the primary problem with skinning is rather difficult to fix.
--Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.--It's never just a game when you're winning.--There are nights when the wolves are silent and only the moon howls.--George Carlin
Skinning requirement is no problem. I remember staying in town so I could ruin my bonus then skinning while laying on ground with a halbard. That was before scraping, and when we did have a skinning req. This was very anti-role playing, but at the time I got sucked into trying to advance.
What I don't like is the second armor req. Now before I go on, I have already gone years between circling, and never complained. Just sucked it up and continued on, part of being a ranger it seems. And I'm not complaining about back training to learn it. It is just that this will force me to roleplay my ranger in a very unexplainable way, other than I want to circle. I make my own armor(leather), and my own arrows. I heal myself with herbs. I hardly ever go to town to sell skins, I don't really need money.
I don't like having to train the 1 armor now. Most times I hunt naked anyway, only put armor on to learn skill to advance. It is stupid to be a stealth specialist and have to stand out in open and let a critter swing at you.
We have a saying "No Ranger stands alone". I think that is bull, I train to stand alone. Of course I help other people in the wilds, but I only let them see me when they are dead most times.
If we need to know 2 armors, will we be able to make cloth armor? You can make spinneretts from spiders(unyns, etc.) where we could extract silk. Then we would have to weave it into a cloth. Then use armor pattern, etc. Could do the same thing with Sheep skins. Sheep skins offering more protection, and silk offering less stealth hinderance. Now that I could take and run with it, for role-playing. And for our more worldly rangers, they could sell bolts of cloth to traders, and traders could make lite weight bags and clothing from the silk. Otherwise, think I will give up on circling. Guess I will be first 50th circle ranger with 1000 in longbow.
Player of Bluemax
What I don't like is the second armor req. Now before I go on, I have already gone years between circling, and never complained. Just sucked it up and continued on, part of being a ranger it seems. And I'm not complaining about back training to learn it. It is just that this will force me to roleplay my ranger in a very unexplainable way, other than I want to circle. I make my own armor(leather), and my own arrows. I heal myself with herbs. I hardly ever go to town to sell skins, I don't really need money.
I don't like having to train the 1 armor now. Most times I hunt naked anyway, only put armor on to learn skill to advance. It is stupid to be a stealth specialist and have to stand out in open and let a critter swing at you.
We have a saying "No Ranger stands alone". I think that is bull, I train to stand alone. Of course I help other people in the wilds, but I only let them see me when they are dead most times.
If we need to know 2 armors, will we be able to make cloth armor? You can make spinneretts from spiders(unyns, etc.) where we could extract silk. Then we would have to weave it into a cloth. Then use armor pattern, etc. Could do the same thing with Sheep skins. Sheep skins offering more protection, and silk offering less stealth hinderance. Now that I could take and run with it, for role-playing. And for our more worldly rangers, they could sell bolts of cloth to traders, and traders could make lite weight bags and clothing from the silk. Otherwise, think I will give up on circling. Guess I will be first 50th circle ranger with 1000 in longbow.
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