Silk types? on 03/07/2006 11:04 AM CST
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Anyone have this list handy? I know a GM posted it a while back, but I cannot find it. :(

It was a list that told what moonsilk, firesilk, nightsilk, etc looked like.


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Re: Silk types? on 03/07/2006 10:13 PM CST
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also nightstalker silk information please :)


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Re: Silk types? on 03/10/2006 05:15 AM CST
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I'm not sure which category/topic these were posted under, but here's something I had saved from the boards:



Re: What Is Moonsilk? ? on 9/26/2004 6:37:45 PM 2379


Moonsilk is a very pale blue silk with an opalescent sheen, stone-washed to give it a heavy texture and a slight nap.

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Re: What Is Moonsilk? ? on 9/28/2004 9:02:12 AM


The silks (aside from spidersilk, since that seems to be fairly well known at this point):

shadowsilk: a special form of silk that absorbs light rather than reflecting it

nightsilk: a unique form of spidersilk, harvested specifically from the black spiders that live within the mists of the Forest of Night

steelsilk: a strong silk used for the reinforcement of seams and containers

watersilk: a supple fabric-like material that drapes and shimmers beautifully, holding the lustre of silk and movement of water

firesilk: a fabric containing red silk threads that cause the fabric to shimmer with red fire as the light catches it.

NOTE on these fabrics: most of them are very expensive. Many are restricted to use by specific merchants only, and most merchants will require that the fabric be provided if you wish an alteration with them. Due to the delicate nature of silk, and the expense involved with obtaining the speciality silks, any merchant has the right to refuse to work with them even if the fabric is supplied by the client.

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Re: Silk types? on 03/10/2006 09:15 AM CST
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Thanks!


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Re: Silk types? on 03/10/2006 10:07 AM CST
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Also, some of the silks are regular silk but special weaves/treatment processes (and some aren't silk at all, but they look like silk). The following can't be used for embroidery threads, for example:

Firesilk (weave of silk threads)
Moonsilk (treatment for woven silk)
Watersilk (it's not actually made from thread)

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Re: Silk types? on 03/10/2006 10:11 AM CST
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Any chance someone could have all of this information added to the homepage, maybe as part of the alteration guidelines page?




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Re: Silk types? on 03/10/2006 02:08 PM CST
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>The following can't be used for embroidery threads, for example:
>Moonsilk (treatment for woven silk)

There are sundials with a moonsilk thread sold in Blackthorn Canyon. Oversight?


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Re: Silk types? on 03/10/2006 02:30 PM CST
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I always understood that moonsilk had a very specific color (and now I know it does) but I've seen alterations with vastly different colors of moonsilk in them. Oversights as well?



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Re: Silk types? on 03/11/2006 03:52 PM CST
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Could be dyed?


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Re: Silk types? on 03/11/2006 06:49 PM CST
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>> Could be dyed?

>> Moonsilk is a very pale blue silk with an opalescent sheen, stone-washed to give it a heavy texture and a slight nap.



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Re: Silk types? on 03/11/2006 07:15 PM CST
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In its natural form, yes. But does that mean it can't be dyed?



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Re: Silk types? on 03/11/2006 08:43 PM CST
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Then I would surmise that it isn't really moonsilk anymore.



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Re: Silk types? on 03/12/2006 05:32 AM CST
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Moonsilk has a very specific color and weave description so once it was dyed it would no longer be a true moonsilk. There will always be unscrupulous merchants out there trying to pawn off a dyed material as moonsilk, which reminds me of the vendors selling nolex watches out of suitcases. Just because they look similar to a rolex doesn't mean they have the same quality or value as one!

Another very rare and pricey silk for your lists that is made from a weave and not individual threads is stormsilk. Spun platinum and silver threads are woven with a silk to give the fabric a stormy look that appears to crackle with electricity when the light catches it.


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Re: Silk types? on 03/12/2006 10:17 AM CST
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We'll take any other silk descriptions you want to give us, Alvy. Keep 'em comin?


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Re: Silk types? on 03/12/2006 11:41 AM CST
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Thanks for the information, Alvy. Another one to add to the list...



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Re: Silk types? on 03/12/2006 05:44 PM CST
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Umm so what is the specific color and description of moonsilk?


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Re: Silk types? on 03/13/2006 11:54 AM CST
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"Moonsilk is a very pale blue silk with an opalescent sheen, stone-washed to give it a heavy texture and a slight nap."

You don't have to include any of that text when you use moonsilk, but it must be pale blue or have the color not mentioned at all. I believe it's called moonsilk because it's the icy blue hue of Xibar's light.

Also, don't forget about Elven silk and Elothean silk! While I'm not 100% sure of the properties of Elven silk, Elothean silk is extremely fine and made in super-secret ways, most likely with special types of silkworms. From an IG book: "Elothean silk, in particular, is collected from secret sorts of silkworms that are raised on lotus leaves, at a precise temperature known only to their caretakers. The worms feed and they feed, in hopes of someday spinning perfect cocoons. The cocoons are gathered and dipped in hot water to loosen them, and then they are unspun, to be given to the spinners and weavers who refine it. Silk filaments are extremely fine, and so a single thread requires five to ten of them." It cannot be made to "appear a different color when viewed from different angles" because of some sort of weaving. The silk is too fine for that to be possible.

Nightweaver silk has been described in a festie handbag as: "Incredibly smooth and yet slightly thick, the nightweaver silk serves as a faintly lustrous backdrop..." I imagine nightreaver silk is similar.

I hope that helps!

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Re: Silk types? on 03/13/2006 03:45 PM CST
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How bout nightstalker silk? Would that be the same as weaver?


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Re: Silk types? on 03/13/2006 03:58 PM CST
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>How bout nightstalker silk? Would that be the same as weaver?

They're just a different tier of the same creature, so I would imagine it would be the same.




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Re: Silk types? on 03/13/2006 04:27 PM CST
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>> I believe it's called moonsilk because it's the icy blue hue of Xibar's light.

So by virtue of that, could you also have "Xibar-blue moonsilk"?



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Re: Silk types? on 03/24/2006 11:27 AM CST
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I would guess spidersilk to be delicate of nature yet Aver wears her hunting for added protection *not sure why, but it does seem to add more then a regular gown protection wise*

From the Bard's Fest I believe it was:

tap: a clinging black spidersilk robe sashed with a blue-black silk braid.

look: Embroidered in silver are reeds that rise unevenly from the hem, framing a spindly blue and white heron dancing along the back of the robe.

appraisal: The black silk robe is pocketed.
The black silk robe is incredibly pliant.
It appears that the black silk robe can be worn as a shirt or robe, even with armor.
You wonder if the black silk robe weighs around 300 stones.
You are certain that the black silk robe is worth exactly 30627 lirums.
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Re: Silk types? on 03/24/2006 02:00 PM CST
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Spidersilk is like real silk...its strength is comparable to steel.

But uh...that gown isn't armor?



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Re: Silk types? on 03/24/2006 02:17 PM CST
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>>But uh...that gown isn't armor?<<

Um as I always seem to ask you, read again what I posted.

I never said it was armor, I believe I said that I wear it while hunting. When I wear a gown with my armor I seem to be less protected..any gown I've worn.. except for these robes
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Re: Silk types? on 03/24/2006 02:23 PM CST
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It still doesn't make sense to me.

Whatever, it's not worth fighting with you over.



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Re: Silk types? on 03/24/2006 02:32 PM CST
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not arguing, just trying to say it seems to given a little added protection. I don't know why, it just does
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Re: Silk types? on 03/25/2006 11:17 AM CST
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no, it doesn't.



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Re: Silk types? on 03/25/2006 11:35 AM CST
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(no it doesn't)

yes, you're right, how could I possibly notice that I take more hits wearing a gown under my armor then these spidersilk robes....

oh wait! many times hunting both ways I guess have shown me exactly that.

It might not have been intended too give added protection, doesn't say that it does offer protection in any way, but it sure seems to anytime I've tested it

Perhaps it is as Sylverwind said, something to do with the silk type itself, strong as steel. I've really no understanding of 'why' the robes seem this way they just are.

I mentioned spidersilk only as it had seemed to be missing from the list of silk types someone had posted
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Re: Silk types? on 03/25/2006 02:40 PM CST
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Correlation does not equal causation.



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Re: Silk types? on 03/25/2006 03:23 PM CST
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lavender also restores fatigue. that's why meraud loves it so much.




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Re: Silk types? on 03/25/2006 04:30 PM CST
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(lavender also restores fatigue. that's why meraud loves it so much.)
Lavender sure used to, and don't forget the golden apples

Look you're both nitpicking at my post. I said, I've no idea 'why' it does, but it has proven to do so time and again.

Whether you both feel it does or not... get some and test it yourselves
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Re: Silk types? on 03/25/2006 06:41 PM CST
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If it did, we'd have spidersilk armor.


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Re: Silk types? on 03/26/2006 06:16 AM CST
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>>If it did, we'd have spidersilk armor.

Seeing how cloth armor is slated to appear, perhaps we will have spidersilk armor, eventually. :)

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Re: Silk types? on 03/26/2006 02:53 PM CST
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I'm just saying, if Spidersilk gave a bonus to armor, or provided protection, everyone would know and be covered in it.


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Re: Silk types? on 03/26/2006 04:35 PM CST
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Since attempting to state it simply didn't work I'll elaborate.

There are many factors that could affect getting hit less (or not as hard) which you have not even attempted to account for, including:

Burden
Buffs (or possible debuffs)
The type and number of critters
Any changes in your armor set up
Any changes in your weapon set up
The range of chance that we know is coded into the combat system

You saying you happened to notice you getting hit less when you wore a specific piece of fluff is akin to me saying I happen to notice the sun rises when I eat cookies the night before. It means nothing. Corrolation does not equal causation. And from the sounds of it you didn't even do any real testing, you just happened to notice it. Forgive me for not taking you on your word, but if you don't want your post "nitpicked" then don't make outrageous claims and refuse to back them up with more than "well I believe this is true so it must be."

As an aside, for any others curious and unknowing, spidersilk is a substance that Fateweaver Demosel Dez'Madielle of Fortune's Path developed using alchemical formulas and an unknown magical technique which she kept secret. It is extremely durable, supple, and lightweight, rather like silk in real life. It will probably be excellent for use in cloth armor (which is more than just a shirt or coat I might add).



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Re: Silk types? on 03/28/2006 08:30 AM CST
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>>lavender also restores fatigue. that's why meraud loves it so much.


God that was awesome, one of the funniest things I remember in the 5+ years I've been playing this game.

And my personal favorite silk type is Elothean, but I'm biased.

Melien.
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