Faster Targeting Feat not working? on 07/26/2014 01:49 PM CDT
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>You recall proficiency with the magic feats of Faster Targeting, Alternate Preparation, Targeted Mastery, Deep Attunement, Raw Channeling and Efficient Channeling.

Fully targeting a spell seems to take the exact same amount of time (10 seconds) on my Warrior Mage as it does on my Necromancer.

Does the feat just require guessing how much sooner you're actually fully targeted?
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Re: Faster Targeting Feat not working? on 07/26/2014 02:03 PM CDT
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It should be ~8 seconds for a normal targeted magic spell with the feat, and ~13 seconds with the feat for a more complex one like an AoE or cyclic. You should be seeing the actual difference in time to get the fully targeted message, not having to cast it a few seconds earlier to take advantage of the feat.

Question... are you using TARGET or PREP+TARGET? I'm not sure if it kicks in with the latter, since I'm not sure how the feat interacts with that method of casting TM. I've only ever used TARGET to start preparing/casting a TM spell, and the feat has always worked correctly.



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Re: Faster Targeting Feat not working? on 07/26/2014 02:04 PM CDT
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That said, I can't confirm if it still working that way, since I no longer have the feat after the spell preview ended.



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Re: Faster Targeting Feat not working? on 07/26/2014 02:09 PM CDT
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>Question... are you using TARGET or PREP+TARGET?

Using TARGET <spell>.

>It should be ~8 seconds for a normal targeted magic spell with the feat, and ~13 seconds with the feat for a more complex one like an AoE or cyclic. You should be seeing the actual difference in time to get the fully targeted message, not having to cast it a few seconds earlier to take advantage of the feat.

Tested with Geyser and the feat - 10 seconds

Tested with Acid Splash no feat - 10 seconds

On my way back from Throne City. I'll check with Fire Shard/Ball and some others once I dock.
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Re: Faster Targeting Feat not working? on 07/26/2014 02:32 PM CDT
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I just learned Faster Targeting to test this and am off to forget it again.

Without feat: Dinazen Olkar takes 10-12 seconds to target.
With feat: Dinazen Olkar takes 8-10 seconds to target.

The 2 second range in target time for each test case is likely due to slight lag on the old laptop + wireless connection I'm currently using with this character combined with the slightly imprecise timing of the game code. The feat is definitely working, however.



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Re: Faster Targeting Feat not working? on 07/26/2014 02:36 PM CDT
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Fire Shards - 14 seconds, consistently

Paeldryth's Wrath - 9 seconds

Fire Ball - 9 seconds, pretty consistent.

Chain Lightning - 14 seconds, also consistent.

Does the target time for Fire Shard increase, perhaps?
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Re: Faster Targeting Feat not working? on 07/26/2014 02:37 PM CDT
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Thanks for checking into it!
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Re: Faster Targeting Feat not working? on 07/26/2014 02:40 PM CDT
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<<Fire Shards - 14 seconds, consistently
<<Paeldryth's Wrath - 9 seconds
<<Fire Ball - 9 seconds, pretty consistent.
<<Chain Lightning - 14 seconds, also consistent.

Those numbers appear to be the correct amount for having the feat.

<<Does the target time for Fire Shard increase, perhaps?

It seems odd that Fire Shards is 15 and Fire Ball is 10... did you switch those by mistake? I would have assumed it would be the other way around.



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Re: Faster Targeting Feat not working? on 07/26/2014 02:47 PM CDT
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>It seems odd that Fire Shards is 15 and Fire Ball is 10... did you switch those by mistake? I would have assumed it would be the other way around.

No switching.

14 second base mana Fire Shard:

Your formation of a targeting pattern around a long-fanged warcat has completed.
> cast

You gesture at a long-fanged warcat.
Several shards of elemental flame fly at a long-fanged warcat!

The fire shard smacks into it, leaving a circular burn on its back.
The fire shard connects with its left leg, branding the flesh with its circular mark.

Roundtime: 1 sec.


9 second base mana Fire Ball:

Your formation of a targeting pattern around a long-fanged warcat has completed.
> cast

You gesture at a long-fanged warcat.
A tiny ball of flame flies at a long-fanged warcat!
The fireball contracts and gains speed as it nears a long-fanged warcat!
The fireball strikes it in the neck and broils a wide patch of flesh.
A volley of fiery shards explode outward toward a red bear orc bandit!
The fire shard smashes into its right arm, breaking it and burning away the flesh.
A volley of fiery shards explode outward toward a red bear orc bandit!
Its right leg is broken and burned nearly to the bone by the fire shard!
A long-fanged warcat emits a plaintive whimper, and breathes its last.

Roundtime: 1 sec.

I thought maybe the multi hit aspect of Fire Shards was increasing the target time...but maybe not.
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Re: Faster Targeting Feat not working? on 07/26/2014 02:59 PM CDT
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<<I thought maybe the multi hit aspect of Fire Shards was increasing the target time

It does, even when only a single bolt is actually fired. It's the potential of a multi-strike that makes it the longer prep time. TKT works the same way with a 15 second prep time.

I'm more confused about Fire Ball, since it's also a potential multi-strike and AoE to boot and should therefore have the longer prep time.



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Re: Faster Targeting Feat not working? on 07/26/2014 03:06 PM CDT
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Yeah, FB should have a longer prep time. Most of the core considers it a single target spell because the primary target gets hit one time, and it doesn't pick targets like a standard AOE. Might take me a little bit to fix it, since I stumbled on a potential bug with the targetting system while I was glancing at the math that determines targetting time.

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