Dragon's Breath as a cyclic spell maybe? on 06/03/2015 02:22 AM CDT
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Might it be possible to have Dragons Breath converted to a cyclic model? As it currently is I can't see much use or appeal to it.
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Re: Dragon's Breath as a cyclic spell maybe? on 06/03/2015 08:00 AM CDT
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>> Might it be possible to have Dragons Breath converted to a cyclic model? As it currently is I can't see much use or appeal to it.

It would certainly be more useful as a cyclic, but I wouldn't say that it's got not much use or appeal, given that it's been largely unchanged for as long as I can remember and has always been a fairly popular spell. My notion is that if it was changed to cyclic, it should either pulse every 30-40 seconds and "top off" your available number of spits, or pulse every 15-20 seconds and "add" a spit to the total available, with some sort of cap, perhaps equal to the current one, or possibly scaling based on mana. The spits could linger beyond the duration of the spell (maybe) and expire using whatever calculation they currently do. Again though, I'm not sure this is needed. It would certainly make the spell better, but so would multiplying its damage by 1000 and making it an AoE with no skill check; just because a change would increase the effectiveness of a spell doesn't mean it's warranted.

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Re: Dragon's Breath as a cyclic spell maybe? on 06/03/2015 08:06 AM CDT
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Dragon's Breath was changed some time ago to be one spit per cast only.

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Re: Dragon's Breath as a cyclic spell maybe? on 06/03/2015 08:16 AM CDT
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>> Dragon's Breath was changed some time ago to be one spit per cast only.

Ooooooooh, I missed that, sorry. Yes, change it to a cyclic that renews the spit every ~18 seconds.

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Re: Dragon's Breath as a cyclic spell maybe? on 06/03/2015 11:19 AM CDT
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New cyclic Dragon Hangover. Projectile vomits a random melee target can be set to pole but need to drink hard liquor to boost range between pukes. Spell ended by water all cantrip imbibed multiple times. Will cause fatigue that gets stronger the longer spell runs, lose of balance and possibility of unconsciousness each pulse. Who's been there?

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Re: Dragon's Breath as a cyclic spell maybe? on 06/03/2015 03:46 PM CDT
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now that's a spell

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Re: Dragon's Breath as a cyclic spell maybe? on 06/03/2015 05:21 PM CDT
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I support the drinking dragons breathe spell only if its power increases with the more booze you ingest.


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Re: Dragon's Breath as a cyclic spell maybe? on 06/03/2015 07:44 PM CDT
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As a multi-shot spell DB was fine.
As a one shot... I find myself not using it much.

I remember before it was a spitting spell at all.

It got better with the change, then worse with going to a single use.
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Re: Dragon's Breath as a cyclic spell maybe? on 06/03/2015 07:52 PM CDT
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I had an additional thought, and I'm curious what other people would think...

Would you rather DB was...
- a cyclic that reactivated your SPIT command every 30 seconds as long as you hold mana.
OR;
- a ritual that reactivated your SPIT command every 30 seconds so long as it was active.

Basically, I'm just curious whether people would prefer that DB occupied their active cyclic slot or their active ritual slot.

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Re: Dragon's Breath as a cyclic spell maybe? on 06/03/2015 08:01 PM CDT
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<<Basically, I'm just curious whether people would prefer that DB occupied their active cyclic slot or their active ritual slot.

I think you mean elemental transformation. There's nothing inherent about ritual spells that requires only a single one to be active. E.g. I can have both IOTS and ECHO active at the same time without issue.



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Re: Dragon's Breath as a cyclic spell maybe? on 06/03/2015 08:19 PM CDT
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Yeah, not sure where this idea of a ritual slot came from.

Warrior Mages have two ritual spells that are Elemental Transformations (AEG and MoF) that can't coexist. Bards have four ritual spells that don't mix that play in a similar design space (And yet were amusingly developed entirely independently), but that's nothing inherent to being a ritual spell.

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Re: Dragon's Breath as a cyclic spell maybe? on 06/03/2015 09:53 PM CDT
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I think I prefer neither of those, and instead wish that when DB connected, it lit the body part on fire on top of its normal damage.

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Re: Dragon's Breath as a cyclic spell maybe? on 06/03/2015 10:22 PM CDT
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>> There's nothing inherent about ritual spells that requires only a single one to be active.
>> Yeah, not sure where this idea of a ritual slot came from.

Oh, really? Okay; I could swear I saw a post somewhere about not being able to end rituals prematurely because casting a new one replaces the old one. My mistake, sorry.

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Re: Dragon's Breath as a cyclic spell maybe? on 06/03/2015 10:41 PM CDT
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>>Oh, really? Okay; I could swear I saw a post somewhere about not being able to end rituals prematurely because casting a new one replaces the old one. My mistake, sorry.

That's the Bard rituals, specifically. Because I wrote a nice little system with unique messaging for them to replace one another and then Socharis (I think it was Socharis) wrote "release <spell>".

... and yes, that's really why you can't release the Bard rituals.

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Re: Dragon's Breath as a cyclic spell maybe? on 06/04/2015 12:52 PM CDT
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You can use Seal Cambrinth and whatever Transformation or whaever else

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