Sure footing question on 04/22/2015 10:45 PM CDT
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I feel like I'm missing something with this spell. I went from using ease to train augment to using SUF, but at the same mana (discern says I can cast SUF at 10 and ease at 9, I'm casting both at 6) SUF never kept me above 1 or 2 mindstates, but ease will keep me in the mid 20s. Same mana, same timers. I'm in scavenger gobs, so I don't think it's a room issue.

Is there some specific reason SUF isn't training me?
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Re: Sure footing question on 04/22/2015 10:54 PM CDT
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Best I can offer is experience drops off quickly once you move away from cap. The difference between 6 out of 10 and 6 out of 9 might be enough to be right at that threshold. Try casting SUF with 7 or 8 mana instead. I know I have zero issues using it as my training spell at 20 with 22 as my personal cap now.



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Re: Sure footing question on 04/22/2015 11:15 PM CDT
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I get the sense that mana difficulty is still relative to cap, not the number of mana. EG mana has no intrinsic difficulty. Since SUF has a higher prep ceiling, those 6 mana are a lower percentage of capped and not as difficult.

Though this might merely be an effect of spell difficulty being a discrete number and things like 'intro/basic' are really a range. Who knows? Mana is weird.



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Re: Sure footing question on 04/23/2015 07:24 AM CDT
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>>Best I can offer is experience drops off quickly once you move away from cap. The difference between 6 out of 10 and 6 out of 9 might be enough to be right at that threshold. Try casting SUF with 7 or 8 mana instead. I know I have zero issues using it as my training spell at 20 with 22 as my personal cap now.<<

This feels right to me.

Mazrian
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Re: Sure footing question on 04/23/2015 08:03 AM CDT
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Experience is a function of difficulty, which changes from spell to spell. Whatever your personal cap for that specific spell is, is where you best learn. That may be radically different from spell to spell, and some spells will be more efficient for training than others.

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Re: Sure footing question on 04/23/2015 08:10 AM CDT
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> Whatever your personal cap for that specific spell is,

Does that take into account masteries or buffs? For example, if I get the augmentation mastery feat, did I bump up my learning cap?
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Re: Sure footing question on 04/23/2015 08:24 AM CDT
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>>Does that take into account masteries or buffs?

It shouldn't, but I'm not looking at the code ATM (still on vacation!) so I can't guarantee that answer.

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