Re: Elemental weapon questions... on 03/28/2015 01:01 PM CDT
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<<But is it possible to add in an adjective or something to the stone versions so it shows what 'tier' or techs/spells/ingot in play?
<<For instance
<<tier 2 -Crude stone xxxxxx
<<tier 3 -stone xxxxxx

It already does this for the tier 2 and tier 3 versions. I'm not currently able to create the 4th or 5th tier versions to check what, if any, adjectives they are. If you're able to create them would you mind filling out the current adjectives or non-adjectives for the fourth and fifth tiers on the table here under quality, please?

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Re: Elemental weapon questions... on 03/28/2015 01:04 PM CDT
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i filled out tier 5, there are no extra adjectives.

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Re: Elemental weapon questions... on 03/28/2015 01:11 PM CDT
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and 4 doesn't have them. I don't have all the techs but as far as staves and blades just stone (weapon). Yeah I'll fill in what I can today. 1 more rank of forging and I get 2 more techs so do some more ater prob

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Re: Elemental weapon questions... on 03/28/2015 01:38 PM CDT
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Adjectives would be nice. Refined, masterwork, elegant, brutal...

..also it'd be nice if the weapons weren't just template names. I miss the classy whimsy of fists and scythes.



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Re: Elemental weapon questions... on 03/28/2015 01:45 PM CDT
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Updated Tier 4 for SE, LE, 2HE, and Staves. Looks like the tier 5 aren't right for edges since I didn't hold an ingot and got same app. Plat so have the metaspells on preview and techs for them. Unless SE has small range so no difference? or the construction is only higher which wasn't in there.

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Will do the SB, LB, LT once my forging ranks.

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Re: Elemental weapon questions... on 03/28/2015 01:55 PM CDT
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Any chance of getting shields added to this as well? A small shield, TURN it for a large? We used to have this with Aegis of Granite, and I miss being able to use it for jousting and having to carry around an extra large shield all the time instead.
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Re: Elemental weapon questions... on 03/28/2015 02:03 PM CDT
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<<Unless SE has small range so no difference?

This is entirely possible since each stat is a range and the proportional increase is small enough to not move it into the next range. The boomerang for example has the same appraisal from tier 3 to tier 5.

<<or the construction is only higher which wasn't in there.

It should be 13 going by the construction stats on the moonblade page, but I don't want to assume.



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Re: Elemental weapon questions... on 03/28/2015 02:08 PM CDT
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I will log in and check again this evening, and add construction. Would it be possible to look at a chart similar to forged weapons so we can get a little better readability?



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Re: Elemental weapon questions... on 03/28/2015 02:15 PM CDT
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<< Would it be possible to look at a chart similar to forged weapons so we can get a little better readability?

Forged weapon charts don't allow for multiple versions of the weapon weapon template on the same line. Doing it that way would extend the vertical length of the table four-fold since you'd need a separate line for each weapon's tier. That said, I'm open to suggestion.

Questions: What specifically is the readability issue? Are you viewing it in a small window? Does the readability improve if you maximize or resize it larger?



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Re: Elemental weapon questions... on 03/28/2015 02:23 PM CDT
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oh no, it's all in one box. I just want to setup multiple columns for pierce/impact/slice etc etc. I can do it myself if you like.

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Re: Elemental weapon questions... on 03/28/2015 02:25 PM CDT
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apologies for the double.

Check out the Qi hunting guide I built (beastiary >beastiary level list > top of the page)

I want to do something like that, but spread it out based on tiers. It would probably look good seperated out by weapon types, and label each row as a tier. Could also keep the turns together as well.

I'll build a mock up and throw it in my sandbox.

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Re: Elemental weapon questions... on 03/28/2015 03:03 PM CDT
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One thing I don't now if Javac answered, or I know a lot of the ingot stuff in PAFO, im not sure if both tier 4's are the same. So might need a 5 wide chart if like ingot and meta spells is different from metaspells and techs. Metaspells/Techs is what I filled in for blades and staves today.

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Re: Elemental weapon questions... on 03/28/2015 03:29 PM CDT
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>im not sure if both tier 4's are the same

Tier 4 is Tier 4, regardless of how you get to it.

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Re: Elemental weapon questions... on 03/28/2015 03:30 PM CDT
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<<oh no, it's all in one box. I just want to setup multiple columns for pierce/impact/slice etc etc.

How's that? https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Elemental_weapon#Templates

<<One thing I don't now if Javac answered, or I know a lot of the ingot stuff in PAFO, im not sure if both tier 4's are the same. So might need a 5 wide chart if like ingot and meta spells is different from metaspells and techs. Metaspells/Techs is what I filled in for blades and staves today.

If they're like the moonblades, which I highly suspect they are, then they're identical regardless of which tier bumper applies.



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Re: Elemental weapon questions... on 03/28/2015 03:34 PM CDT
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Absolon that's perfect. Great job man, better than what I would have done, way more compact and readable, yet still spreading it out enough to really analyze.

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Re: Elemental weapon questions... on 03/28/2015 04:03 PM CDT
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Hey, Javac.

Not a question. I just wanted to pop in and say I'm enjoying the system. It's useful and aesthetic and really pretty cool all around.

Thanks!

Mazrian
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Re: Elemental weapon questions... on 03/28/2015 05:02 PM CDT
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Added Tier 4 Small Blunt and HT. Going be a bit before I get another tech so if anyone can fill in Polearms, Large Blunt, 2HB and Light Thrown be great.

Or even just post appraisals that are certain here one of us can update it fully. Not as interested in the few missing tier 2 but those would complete it for us

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Re: Elemental weapon questions... on 03/28/2015 06:38 PM CDT
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do that thing that makes every other weapon type a different box color (like light grey and the next one white, then grey again) and the tiers too maybe?

anywho...

You try to scream but manage only to blow a few bubbles.

Closing your eyes, you grunt briefly in effort as you sense a small electrical ethereal fissure open in front of you. Thrusting your hand through, you draw out an electric claymore. As you open your eyes, the fissure closes.
Roundtime: 1 sec.

The air around you suddenly feels charged and more energetic. A light flashes through the mouth of a small electrical fissure and the feeling is gone. (random well-timed electric ether fissure messaging)

that should totally nuke a room underwater...

Closing your eyes, you grunt briefly in effort as you sense a small fiery ethereal fissure open in front of you. Thrusting your hand through, you draw out a fiery claymore. As you open your eyes, the fissure closes.
Roundtime: 1 sec.

I honestly didn't notice the fissure type changed if you chose an element with the inital summon. Good work! Non-corpeal ghost-busting aether weapon? Non-damaging air version? enh?
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Re: Elemental weapon questions... on 03/28/2015 06:47 PM CDT
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You try to eat a fiery greatsword, but discover that it isn't food.

enh? c'mon, that'd be a cool trick...

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Re: Elemental weapon questions... on 03/28/2015 07:27 PM CDT
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Would it be possible to hand these weapons off to bards? It just seems like we should be doing more convergence with the other elemental guild, or am I really wrong in how they tap into the same streams?

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Re: Elemental weapon questions... on 03/28/2015 07:42 PM CDT
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These are fundamentally a summoning ability. Bards don't interact with Summoning.

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Re: Elemental weapon questions... on 03/28/2015 08:32 PM CDT
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>>...or am I really wrong in how they tap into the same streams?

Bards use the elements in their symbolic form with a rare dash of raw conjuration. Warrior Mages are all about raw conjuration with a splash of metaphysics for taste.

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Re: Elemental weapon questions... on 03/28/2015 08:40 PM CDT
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bards whistle, we punch holes in reality
i know it's almost as cool, but bards don't cut it as WM's

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