Maybe we could put the weapon making spells in one element and the armor making spells in another? Or maybe make flexible weapons from one element and solid weapons from the other?
Will we be able to force our spells into one element or another, instead of their default?
[Example: instead of fire shard, just shard, instead of lightning bolt, just bolt, instead of frost scythe, just scythe.]
prep scythe water [wa]
prep scythe fire [fi]
prep scythe air [ai]
prep scythe earth [ea]
prep scythe electricity [el]
prep scythe aether [ae]
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>Maybe we could put the weapon making spells in one element and the armor making spells in another? Or maybe make flexible weapons from one element and solid weapons from the other?
Last I heard the plan was for each element to create one type of weapon, but once you have it you can make it with any element you have the weapon creation thing from. So if Fire makes a sword, and Air makes a bow, you can make a Fire sword, an Air sword, a Fire bow, and an Air bow.
>Will we be able to force our spells into one element or another, instead of their default?
Pretty sure this idea has been shot down in the past. It definitely isn't represented in the spell list we've been given. Perhaps there could be a pathway that allows us to change the element of a spell?
Elemental Lord Opieus, Expert Warrior Mage of Elanthia
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Last I heard the plan was for each element to create one type of weapon, but once you have it you can make it with any element you have the weapon creation thing from. So if Fire makes a sword, and Air makes a bow, you can make a Fire sword, an Air sword, a Fire bow, and an Air bow.
>Will we be able to force our spells into one element or another, instead of their default?
Pretty sure this idea has been shot down in the past. It definitely isn't represented in the spell list we've been given. Perhaps there could be a pathway that allows us to change the element of a spell?
Elemental Lord Opieus, Expert Warrior Mage of Elanthia
"For a bunch of radical empiricists, the Philosophers' system relies on a whole lot of faith." ~Armifer
I just thought about how amusing it would be to kill someone with a hammer made of air.
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As good almost kill a man as kill a good book; who kills a man kills a reasonable creature, God's image; but he who destroys a good book, kills reason itself, kills the image of God, as it were in the eye.
-John Milton
>this idea has been shot down in the past...
That was then, this time they're "removing redundant spells" Energy bolt and fire shard/lightning bolt? frost scyth and ring of spears?
I missed the new 3.0 wm list, mind linking there?
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That was then, this time they're "removing redundant spells" Energy bolt and fire shard/lightning bolt? frost scyth and ring of spears?
I missed the new 3.0 wm list, mind linking there?
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Elemental Lord Opieus, Expert Warrior Mage of Elanthia
"For a bunch of radical empiricists, the Philosophers' system relies on a whole lot of faith." ~Armifer
Elemental Lord Opieus, Expert Warrior Mage of Elanthia
"For a bunch of radical empiricists, the Philosophers' system relies on a whole lot of faith." ~Armifer
>"removing redundant spells" Energy bolt and fire shard/lightning bolt? frost scyth and ring of spears?
None of those four spells is anything like the other currently so I don't get your point. We have lots of TM spells, they do different types of damage. That's what makes them non-redundant in the new system.
Elemental Lord Opieus, Expert Warrior Mage of Elanthia
"For a bunch of radical empiricists, the Philosophers' system relies on a whole lot of faith." ~Armifer
None of those four spells is anything like the other currently so I don't get your point. We have lots of TM spells, they do different types of damage. That's what makes them non-redundant in the new system.
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"For a bunch of radical empiricists, the Philosophers' system relies on a whole lot of faith." ~Armifer
Warrior Mage Sorcery on 09/06/2011 03:07 PM CDT
So went on a planet research binge for some odd reason(science channel is fun but makes you go off on tangental learning frenzies).
Anyways back to my point, Warrior Mage sorcery is the manipulation of the essence or nature of the elemnent.
I got to thinking in other exotic atmospheres you get events which are strikingly odd compared to terrestial events. For example on certain moons of jupiter there is a great volcanic activity, but it isn't lava as we know it. Its lava made from methane and ice, Icy cold lava.
So one spell could be based upon summoning lava which behaves and acts like lava, but also behaves and acts very much like icy-gelatinous water.
Another example is in Venus the atmosphere is so thick that even if the winds aren't very strong or rapid its still sufficient enough to move small rocks and stones, exaggerate this into summoning a compressed cloud of gas that is thick and dense enough to hit like a rock, but at the same time has intangibility and properties of a gas.
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As good almost kill a man as kill a good book; who kills a man kills a reasonable creature, God's image; but he who destroys a good book, kills reason itself, kills the image of God, as it were in the eye.
-John Milton
Anyways back to my point, Warrior Mage sorcery is the manipulation of the essence or nature of the elemnent.
I got to thinking in other exotic atmospheres you get events which are strikingly odd compared to terrestial events. For example on certain moons of jupiter there is a great volcanic activity, but it isn't lava as we know it. Its lava made from methane and ice, Icy cold lava.
So one spell could be based upon summoning lava which behaves and acts like lava, but also behaves and acts very much like icy-gelatinous water.
Another example is in Venus the atmosphere is so thick that even if the winds aren't very strong or rapid its still sufficient enough to move small rocks and stones, exaggerate this into summoning a compressed cloud of gas that is thick and dense enough to hit like a rock, but at the same time has intangibility and properties of a gas.
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As good almost kill a man as kill a good book; who kills a man kills a reasonable creature, God's image; but he who destroys a good book, kills reason itself, kills the image of God, as it were in the eye.
-John Milton
Re: Warrior Mage Sorcery on 09/06/2011 03:10 PM CDT
Very interesting ideas IMO.
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Re: Warrior Mage Sorcery on 09/06/2011 03:29 PM CDT
Re: Warrior Mage Sorcery on 09/06/2011 03:52 PM CDT
>>I like the idea of element-mixing more than just straight-up Blackfire.
I think element mixing shouldn't be a sorcery. WM Sorcery is corruption of form, so IMO it should be elements doing exactly what they shouldn't. Stone flowing like water while still cool to the touch, gelatinous electricity, ice-nine, that sorta thing. Extreme non-terrestrial environments is still probably a good place to take inspiration for this.
I do want to see more spells with element mixing, I just don't think they should be a sorcery. Maybe we could have a book that's like the MM's stellar magic book for that stuff?
I think element mixing shouldn't be a sorcery. WM Sorcery is corruption of form, so IMO it should be elements doing exactly what they shouldn't. Stone flowing like water while still cool to the touch, gelatinous electricity, ice-nine, that sorta thing. Extreme non-terrestrial environments is still probably a good place to take inspiration for this.
I do want to see more spells with element mixing, I just don't think they should be a sorcery. Maybe we could have a book that's like the MM's stellar magic book for that stuff?
Re: Warrior Mage Sorcery on 09/06/2011 09:00 PM CDT
>>I think element mixing shouldn't be a sorcery. WM Sorcery is corruption of form, so IMO it should be elements doing exactly what they shouldn't. Stone flowing like water while still cool to the touch, gelatinous electricity, ice-nine, that sorta thing. Extreme non-terrestrial environments is still probably a good place to take inspiration for this.
Where I was going with this suggestion was to something along the line of a natural form of the element, that is wholly unnatural under normal conditions on elanthia.
For example your stone flowing like sand, extremely fine silicate sand can flow and move like water under certain conditions but it can also magnetize an object.
So you can blast a target with fine magnetized ferrous sand and deal concussive damage, then nail them with a lightning attack right after for bonus damage.
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As good almost kill a man as kill a good book; who kills a man kills a reasonable creature, God's image; but he who destroys a good book, kills reason itself, kills the image of God, as it were in the eye.
-John Milton
Re: Warrior Mage Sorcery on 09/07/2011 01:35 PM CDT
Strictly just mixing the elements isn't sorcerous, it just isn't easy or popular. Magnetic Ballista is an example of mixing the elements to produce a rail gun, which is placed in the book of its most dominant element. There'll also be a new Aether metaspell that is, in a very loose sense, pan-elemental.
-Armifer
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Re: Warrior Mage Sorcery on 09/07/2011 01:58 PM CDT
I'm going to be -really- jealous if Warrior Mages get Ultima Magic :/
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Re: Warrior Mage Sorcery on 09/07/2011 04:41 PM CDT
>>I'm going to be -really- jealous if Warrior Mages get Ultima Magic :/
Yeah, no. Maybe for Hylomorphic, but that's not the tone I'd like to set.
-Armifer
"In our days truth is taken to result from the effacing of the living man behind the mathematical structures that think themselves out in him, rather than he be thinking them." - Emmanuel Levinas
Yeah, no. Maybe for Hylomorphic, but that's not the tone I'd like to set.
-Armifer
"In our days truth is taken to result from the effacing of the living man behind the mathematical structures that think themselves out in him, rather than he be thinking them." - Emmanuel Levinas