This is a text of me casting fireshard at a bristle back peccary. Only things that were edited were the unecessary scroll from me checking my experience, assessing position, my leopard and some of my skills. Ive have provided some of my skills and stats to determine if they are the problem.

[Shepherd's Meadow, Grazing Land]
Wildflowers are scattered among the waving grass of the wide field, dotting the landscape with bright spots of color. Occasionally the bleating of sheep can be heard, carried on the breeze. You also see a bristle-backed peccary.
Obvious paths: north, northeast, east, southeast, south, southwest, west, northwest.
>pre fs 20
You trace an arcane sigil in the air, shaping the pattern of the Fire Shard spell.

>target pec
harn 6
You begin to weave mana lines into a target pattern around a bristle-backed peccary.
>exp

You tap into the mana from six of the surrounding streams and attempt to keep it channeling in a stream around you.
Roundtime: 3 seconds
>
Circle: 61
Showing only skills with field experience.
To see all your skills, type EXP ALL

SKILL: Rank/Percent towards next rank/Amount learning
Light Chain: xxx 83% mind lock Heavy Chain: xxx 33% mind lock
Parry Ability: xxx 62% mind lock Multi Opponent: xxx 89% pondering
Heavy Edged: 309 68% mind lock Primary Magic: 357 96% concentrating
Harness Ability: xxx 26% concentrating Magical Devices: xxx 37% learning
Targeted Magic: 318 36% perplexed Evasion: xxx 64% dazed
Perception: xxx 88% learning Hiding: xxx 69% learning
Appraisal: 191 29% mind lock

Time Development Points: 19 Favors: 7 Deaths: 85
Overall state of mind: murky
EXP HELP for more information

The formation of the target pattern around a bristle-backed peccary has completed.

cast **********CAST 1 FIRESHARD WITH 26 MANA******************

>You gesture at a bristle-backed peccary.
The mana you were holding contributes to the spell.
Your grey leopard seems to make your Fire Shard spell less straining.
Several elemental fire shards fly at a bristle-backed peccary!

The fire shard glances off its right leg, singeing it a little.
The fire shard singes its neck.
The fire shard smacks into a bristle-backed peccary, leaving a circular burn on its chest.
Roundtime: 1 second.
>

>pre fs 20
You trace an arcane sigil in the air, shaping the pattern of the Fire Shard spell.
>target pec

You begin to weave mana lines into a target pattern around a bristle-backed peccary.
>harn 6

You tap into the mana from six of the surrounding streams and attempt to keep it channeling in a stream around you.
Roundtime: 3 seconds

>
The formation of the target pattern around a bristle-backed peccary has completed.


>cast **************CAST TWO FIRESHARD 26MANA******************

You gesture at a bristle-backed peccary.
The mana you were holding contributes to the spell.
Your grey leopard seems to make your Fire Shard spell less straining.
Several elemental fire shards fly at a bristle-backed peccary!

The fire shard slams into a bristle-backed peccary, badly blistering its chest.
The fire shard glances off its abdomen, singeing it a little.
The shard hits a bristle-backed peccary squarely in the abdomen, sending it reeling and scorching the skin.
Roundtime: 1 second.

A bristle-backed peccary (1: solidly balanced) is advancing on you at missile range.
You (nimbly balanced) are facing a bristle-backed peccary at missile range.

>pre fs 20
You trace an arcane sigil in the air, shaping the pattern of the Fire Shard spell.

>target pec
You begin to weave mana lines into a target pattern around a bristle-backed peccary.
>harn 6
You tap into the mana from six of the surrounding streams and attempt to keep it channeling in a stream around you.
Roundtime: 3 seconds
>

The formation of the target pattern around a bristle-backed peccary has completed.


>cast ****************CAST 3 FIRESHARD 26MANA******************


You gesture at a bristle-backed peccary.
The mana you were holding contributes to the spell.
Your grey leopard seems to make your Fire Shard spell less straining.
Several elemental fire shards fly at a bristle-backed peccary!

Your fire shard misses!
The fire shard glances off its abdomen, singeing it a little.
Its heavy leather skin absorbs the blow from the shard.
Roundtime: 1 second.
>ass

You assess your combat situation...

A bristle-backed peccary (1: solidly balanced) is advancing on you at missile range.
You (incredibly balanced) are facing a bristle-backed peccary at missile range.

>pre fs 20
That will disrupt most of your current attunement, leaving you barely any at all.
You trace an arcane sigil in the air, shaping the pattern of the Fire Shard spell.
>target pec
You begin to weave mana lines into a target pattern around a bristle-backed peccary.
>
>harn 6

You tap into the mana from six of the surrounding streams and attempt to keep it channeling in a stream around you.
Roundtime: 3 seconds
>

look at pec
>

You see a bristle-backed peccary.
The bristle-backed peccary has faint scuffing to the neck, tiny scratches to the right leg, deep slashes across the chest area, deep cuts across the abdomen.
The bristle-backed peccary is bleeding from the chest and from the abdomen.
It is wearing nothing!
It is carrying nothing!


>

>
You feel less steady, and realize that your Sure Footing spell has worn off.

>
The formation of the target pattern around a bristle-backed peccary has completed.

>cast ****************CAST 4 FIRESHARD 26 MANA************************

You gesture at a bristle-backed peccary.
The mana you were holding contributes to the spell.
Your grey leopard seems to make your Fire Shard spell less straining.
Several elemental fire shards fly at a bristle-backed peccary!

The fire shard connects with its right leg, branding the flesh with its circular mark.
The fire shard slams into a bristle-backed peccary, badly blistering its abdomen.
The bristle-backed peccary is lightly stunned!
The fire shard smashes full-force into a bristle-backed peccary, burning away the flesh of its chest.
Roundtime: 1 second.
>ass
You assess your combat situation...

A bristle-backed peccary (1: very badly balanced) is facing you at pole weapon range.
You (nimbly balanced) are facing a bristle-backed peccary at pole weapon range.
pre fs 20

>You have to strain to harness the energy for this spell, and you aren't sure you can get enough to cast it.
You trace an arcane sigil in the air, shaping the pattern of the Fire Shard spell.

>target pec
You begin to weave mana lines into a target pattern around a bristle-backed peccary.

harn 6
>You have an extremely low attunement to the mana flowing through this area.
Attunement: [0%>>>>>|______________50%_____________________100%]
Use MANA HELP for more.
>
You tap into the mana from six of the surrounding streams and attempt to keep it channeling in a stream around you.
Roundtime: 3 seconds
>
You feel fully balanced again.
The formation of the target pattern around a bristle-backed peccary has completed.

>cast
You gesture at a bristle-backed peccary.
You are unable to harness sufficient energy to cast the spell.
>
* A bristle-backed peccary uses its tusks like dueling blades, twisting violently at you. You fend off the tusk with a bastard sword.
[You're solidly balanced with opponent in better position.]
You notice as a grey leopard gazes around with large yellow eyes.
>draw
< You step backward and then slice at a bristle-backed peccary. A bristle-backed peccary dodges.
[You're somewhat off balance with opponent in very strong position.]
[Roundtime 2 sec.]
>
* A bristle-backed peccary uses its tusks like dueling blades, twisting violently at you. You deflect most of the tusk with a bastard sword. The tusk lands a brushing strike to your chest.
[You're somewhat off balance with opponent dominating.]
>sweep
* A bristle-backed peccary uses its tusks like dueling blades, twisting violently at you. You turn aside the tusk with a bastard sword.
[You're off balance with opponent in very strong position.]
< You sweep a bastard sword at a bristle-backed peccary. A bristle-backed peccary fails to evade. The sword lands a glancing blow to the peccary's left leg.
[You're solidly balanced with opponent in good position.]
[Roundtime 3 sec.]
>slice
< You slice a bastard sword at a bristle-backed peccary. A bristle-backed peccary attempts to dodge. The sword lands a light hit to the peccary's right arm.
[You're nimbly balanced with no advantage.]
[Roundtime 3 sec.]
>

The bristle-backed peccary is still a distance away from you and is closing steadily.
* A bristle-backed peccary lowers its head, tilts it to one side, and slashes its curved tusks at you. You fend off the tusk with a bastard sword.
[You're nimbly balanced with opponent in good position.]
>chop






< You chop a bastard sword at a bristle-backed peccary. A bristle-backed peccary attempts to evade. The sword lands a strong hit that cuts deeply into the peccary's right tricep.
[You're incredibly balanced with no advantage.]
[Roundtime 3 sec.]
>
* A bristle-backed peccary uses its tusks like dueling blades, twisting violently at you. You deflect the tusk with a bastard sword.
[You're incredibly balanced and in better position.]
>

>draw
< You step backward and then slice at a bristle-backed peccary. A bristle-backed peccary fails to evade. The sword lands a strong hit that explodes the heart and lungs with a bone-shattering blow to the chest.
A bristle-backed peccary flops in a porky heap, squealing one last time before passing into oblivion.
[You're incredibly balanced]
[Roundtime 2 sec.]
>

>sea pec
You search the bristle-backed peccary.
It carried nothing of interest.


>obs weather
You glance up at the sky.
The sky is clear.

>sigh
You sigh.


As you can see 4 casts of 26 mana and several swings to kill 1 peccary. How can this spell get any weaker without turning into a fluffy pillow?


Strength : 35 Reflex : 36
Agility : 32 Charisma : 19
Discipline : 30 Wisdom : 36
Intelligence : 28 Stamina : 35
Favors: 7
Concentration: 248 Max: 248
TDPs: 19
Encumbrance: None

Its been storming the last day or so, so if you did the test then I am not surprised over the results. No matter what, I am sure everyone agrees that FB needs an uptweak.

~Z


Standing on the defensive indicates insufficient
strength; attacking, a superabundance of strength. ~Sun Tzu, Art of War

Oh sorry, I missed that..

This multi-shot downtweak got me to think about APs. How about a high level pathway called duplicate. Whatever targetted higher tier spell casted will duplicate and create two shots.

~Z


Standing on the defensive indicates insufficient
strength; attacking, a superabundance of strength. ~Sun Tzu, Art of War

Whenever you cast a spell at something there is a bit of contest. Offensive spells fall under spell vs statistic. If you failed a spell at X amount of mana you may need to harness Y amount more to overcome the MR. Problem here is.. with your charisma being as low as it is and it being a contested spell.. it takes you MORE mana to achieve the same effect as it would if you had more charisma.

Example (numbers aren't are for example only): Two mages cast same spell at same mana. Mage 1 has 19 charisma. Mage 2 has 25 charisma. Mage 1 casts at fresh critter and critter gets cuts and bruises. Mage 2 casts at fresh critter and critter gets deep cuts and bruises.

This may help you.
http://www.play.net/dr/info/spells/magic.asp#resistance

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She had an unequalled gift... of squeezing big mistakes into small opportunities. - Henry James

Quite a bit I'm discovering.
I went from 50% to 75% (Estimate) one-hit-kills with a two point jump on Charisma.


Jerevth

I can't fire them. I hired these guys for three days a week and they just started showing up every day. That was four years ago

>Charisma reflects the ammount of damage done in tm spells!?

No.

Steel.

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Now with combat move charts!
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<<Charima in itself doesn't cause more damage to the target. It helps you overcome the target's magical resistance more easily. The easier you overcome the target's resistance the less mana it takes to achieve the same effect.>>

Circled and dumped but night bargs do have some nice magic resistance.
I didn't know circle affected damage ability. True?

Jerevth

I can't fire them. I hired these guys for three days a week and they just started showing up every day. That was four years ago

I raised my charisma by two points when I last circled.
Using pathway power before I circled I could kill a night barg half the time with a gar zeng.
After I circled, with the charisma raised, I started dropping night bargs 2 in three casts. (That is to say One shot, one kill)

I just made the statement, from my perspective, Charisma seemed to boost my damage ratio. Maybe it plays into the MR contest, maybe it was a lucky night for me hunting. If I analyze too deeply I'll just get disenchanted. (No pun intended)


Jerevth

I can't fire them. I hired these guys for three days a week and they just started showing up every day. That was four years ago

Maybe circling does have a small effect on TM/magic in general. Ever time you circle you gain a little more concentration same as if you added discipline.