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A small QOL suggestion, with Krakii as my +1 per the other thread:
Alphabetize the CMAN, SHIELD, and ARMOR lists so when I LIST ALL or LIST PROFESSION or heck even when I list the ones I have at the moment (though that's less important to me since it's so much smaller than the lists of what is available) the skills are alphabetized.
~Heathyr
And repeating my additional fillip: sort flags for
- alpha [already covered by Heathyr];
- rank [so all of the ones where you would be "getting rank 1" are listed before the "getting rank 2" before...]; and
- cost [where you may see CheapShots rank4/cost 7 listed before Unarmed Specialist rank2/cost 9].
- With the additional flag of up [default] or down [reverse alphabetical order, 5s then 4s then 3s, and highest cost to lowest, respectively].
- alpha [already covered by Heathyr];
- rank [so all of the ones where you would be "getting rank 1" are listed before the "getting rank 2" before...]; and
- cost [where you may see CheapShots rank4/cost 7 listed before Unarmed Specialist rank2/cost 9].
- With the additional flag of up [default] or down [reverse alphabetical order, 5s then 4s then 3s, and highest cost to lowest, respectively].
The output from INCANT SET should be in numerical order instead of the order that you assign the spells. When you have a ton of different spells with various CHANNEL/EVOKE settings, like on a pre-cap wizard, it's difficult to find the spell you're interested in without that kind of organization. Thanks.
Glimmin Goodhand
Glimmin Goodhand
I'll add a couple for the etc list:
--GROUP--
How about something a group leader can set to stay put until all of the group members are out of hard RT? If a group member is in RT for 6 sec, it returns "...wait 6 seconds" to the leader. Maybe something like:
GROUP TOGGLE WAIT
You will now wait until everyone in the group is ready to move.
GROUP TOGGLE WAIT
You will now move normally.
--GIVE--
Sorry to keep bringing this one up, but could someone change the GIVE verb so it ignores the "GIVEE" result from the parser and just loops through the occupants in the room? Grabbing the first result from the WHO list makes no sense when the verb is constrained to the same room. There must be an alternate parser out there that just looks at current room occupants only, since this is how the roleplaying verbs work (mostly).
--GROUP--
How about something a group leader can set to stay put until all of the group members are out of hard RT? If a group member is in RT for 6 sec, it returns "...wait 6 seconds" to the leader. Maybe something like:
GROUP TOGGLE WAIT
You will now wait until everyone in the group is ready to move.
GROUP TOGGLE WAIT
You will now move normally.
--GIVE--
Sorry to keep bringing this one up, but could someone change the GIVE verb so it ignores the "GIVEE" result from the parser and just loops through the occupants in the room? Grabbing the first result from the WHO list makes no sense when the verb is constrained to the same room. There must be an alternate parser out there that just looks at current room occupants only, since this is how the roleplaying verbs work (mostly).
Could a small totem head be added to the items that LOOT ROOM picks up please?
Wee Sleepy Gnomette
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Wee Sleepy Gnomette
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For the requests made in this thread, can you provide the current command's syntax and a snippet (~5-10 lines) of that output and then the syntax of the suggested command and a snippet of the resulting output? If the suggestion doesn't change the syntax, feel free to simply provide the same syntax twice.
Thanks!
> Meraki – Greek Word of the day – Doing something with love, passion, and a lot of soul. It is what happens when you leave a piece of yourself (your soul, creativity, or love) in your work.
Thanks!
> Meraki – Greek Word of the day – Doing something with love, passion, and a lot of soul. It is what happens when you leave a piece of yourself (your soul, creativity, or love) in your work.
I didn't suggest this one but it is one that I've always thought should be addressed (like every time I use the command to find a specific CMAN shortname).
Current result
>>CMAN LIST
Combat Movement (cmovement), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 4)
Combat Mastery (cmastery), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 4)
Dirtkick (dirtkick), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 4)
Disarm Weapon (disarm), Rank 3 (CM points needed: 12)
Feint (feint), Rank 3 (CM points needed: 10)
Precision (precision), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 8)
Subdual Strike (sstrike), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 4)
Multi-Fire (mfire), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 4)
Trip (trip), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 4)
Cunning Defense (cdefense), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 4)
Unarmed Specialist (unarmedspec), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 12)
Preferred result:
>>CMAN LIST
Combat Movement (cmovement), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 4)
Combat Mastery (cmastery), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 4)
Cunning Defense (cdefense), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 4)
Dirtkick (dirtkick), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 4)
Disarm Weapon (disarm), Rank 3 (CM points needed: 12)
Feint (feint), Rank 3 (CM points needed: 10)
Multi-Fire (mfire), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 4)
Precision (precision), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 8)
Subdual Strike (sstrike), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 4)
Trip (trip), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 4)
Unarmed Specialist (unarmedspec), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 12)
If you do a CMAN LIST ALL it is similar to the above but you can see that every time a new CMAN is added it just gets tacked onto the bottom of the display list (vs. being sorted in the list).
Similar commands with the same issue:
CMAN INFO
SHIELD LIST
SHIELD INFO
ARMOR LIST
ARMOR INFO
I don't think there is any need for the syntax to be changed at all. Just the resulting output should be alphabetized.
-- Robert
>> A halfling magistrate picks up a small rock and throws it at a half-elven bandit in a valiant effort to subdue him.
Current result
>>CMAN LIST
Combat Movement (cmovement), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 4)
Combat Mastery (cmastery), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 4)
Dirtkick (dirtkick), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 4)
Disarm Weapon (disarm), Rank 3 (CM points needed: 12)
Feint (feint), Rank 3 (CM points needed: 10)
Precision (precision), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 8)
Subdual Strike (sstrike), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 4)
Multi-Fire (mfire), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 4)
Trip (trip), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 4)
Cunning Defense (cdefense), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 4)
Unarmed Specialist (unarmedspec), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 12)
Preferred result:
>>CMAN LIST
Combat Movement (cmovement), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 4)
Combat Mastery (cmastery), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 4)
Cunning Defense (cdefense), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 4)
Dirtkick (dirtkick), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 4)
Disarm Weapon (disarm), Rank 3 (CM points needed: 12)
Feint (feint), Rank 3 (CM points needed: 10)
Multi-Fire (mfire), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 4)
Precision (precision), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 8)
Subdual Strike (sstrike), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 4)
Trip (trip), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 4)
Unarmed Specialist (unarmedspec), Rank 1 (CM points needed: 12)
If you do a CMAN LIST ALL it is similar to the above but you can see that every time a new CMAN is added it just gets tacked onto the bottom of the display list (vs. being sorted in the list).
Similar commands with the same issue:
CMAN INFO
SHIELD LIST
SHIELD INFO
ARMOR LIST
ARMOR INFO
I don't think there is any need for the syntax to be changed at all. Just the resulting output should be alphabetized.
-- Robert
>> A halfling magistrate picks up a small rock and throws it at a half-elven bandit in a valiant effort to subdue him.
Me personally, I find the comma-separated 'list' output very hard to read, whereas the columnar 'info' output is quite easy to read.
So--again, for me--I would rather see (this is the default alpha sort):
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Then, addressing my other requests, you could also "sort rank down" (showing the skills in the order for which you are closest to maxing them out) and get:
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And also "sort cost" (which should have the optional 'down' parameter as well) to see those which you can most easily afford:
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Any other columns that you felt like adding would just be bonus treats. Like one for "stamina" (the points used AT THE NEW rank), or else "passive" to note that it is always on.
So--again, for me--I would rather see (this is the default alpha sort):
| Name | Mnemonic | Rank to Learn | CMan point cost |
| Combat Movement | cmovement | 1 | 4 |
| Combat Mastery | cmastery | 1 | 4 |
| Cunning Defense | cdefense | 1 | 4 |
| Dirtkick | dirtkick | 1 | 4 |
| Disarm Weapon | disarm | 3 | 12 |
| Feint | feint | 3 | 10 |
| Multi-Fire | mfire | 1 | 4 |
| Precision | precision | 1 | 8 |
| Subdual Strike | sstrike | 1 | 4 |
| Trip | trip | 1 | 4 |
| Unarmed Specialist | unarmedspec | 1 | 12 |
.
Then, addressing my other requests, you could also "sort rank down" (showing the skills in the order for which you are closest to maxing them out) and get:
| Name | Mnemonic | Rank to Learn | CMan point cost |
| Disarm Weapon | disarm | 3 | 12 |
| Feint | feint | 3 | 10 |
| Combat Movement | cmovement | 1 | 4 |
| Combat Mastery | cmastery | 1 | 4 |
| Cunning Defense | cdefense | 1 | 4 |
| Dirtkick | dirtkick | 1 | 4 |
| Multi-Fire | mfire | 1 | 4 |
| Precision | precision | 1 | 8 |
| Subdual Strike | sstrike | 1 | 4 |
| Trip | trip | 1 | 4 |
| Unarmed Specialist | unarmedspec | 1 | 12 |
.
And also "sort cost" (which should have the optional 'down' parameter as well) to see those which you can most easily afford:
| Name | Mnemonic | Rank to Learn | CMan point cost |
| Combat Movement | cmovement | 1 | 4 |
| Combat Mastery | cmastery | 1 | 4 |
| Cunning Defense | cdefense | 1 | 4 |
| Dirtkick | dirtkick | 1 | 4 |
| Multi-Fire | mfire | 1 | 4 |
| Subdual Strike | sstrike | 1 | 4 |
| Trip | trip | 1 | 4 |
| Precision | precision | 1 | 8 |
| Feint | feint | 3 | 10 |
| Unarmed Specialist | unarmedspec | 1 | 12 |
| Disarm Weapon | disarm | 3 | 12 |
.
Any other columns that you felt like adding would just be bonus treats. Like one for "stamina" (the points used AT THE NEW rank), or else "passive" to note that it is always on.
This is why Krakii has a wiki named after him. He is so much higher maintenance than I am.
That said, I wouldn't be opposed to the columnar output format either. :-)
-- Robert
>> A halfling magistrate picks up a small rock and throws it at a half-elven bandit in a valiant effort to subdue him.
That said, I wouldn't be opposed to the columnar output format either. :-)
-- Robert
>> A halfling magistrate picks up a small rock and throws it at a half-elven bandit in a valiant effort to subdue him.
I dispute that I am high-maintenance.
(Once that stuff is in, it is very clear, very usable, and pretty much never needs to be touched ever again.
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I am perfectly willing to acknowledge being high-implementation.
(Demanding & rigorous about the initial install. Get it right on the build, not have to go re-visit it.)
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I confess to avoiding doing "cman list" in-game, simply because it's a jumble to read. Some things have a short mnemonic (sbash springs to mind, with what, 5 characters?) while others run up to the double-digits; then there are long names (looking at 'unarmed specialist' here...) and so on.
Compare trying to figure out "how much do I need to pay to get what?" with your eyes jumping left-right down a whole screenful of lines...
...to just running your eyes down a nice single column that line up.
I know which one helps me-the-player out a hell of a lot more. <nod>
(Once that stuff is in, it is very clear, very usable, and pretty much never needs to be touched ever again.
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I am perfectly willing to acknowledge being high-implementation.
(Demanding & rigorous about the initial install. Get it right on the build, not have to go re-visit it.)
.
.
.
.
I confess to avoiding doing "cman list" in-game, simply because it's a jumble to read. Some things have a short mnemonic (sbash springs to mind, with what, 5 characters?) while others run up to the double-digits; then there are long names (looking at 'unarmed specialist' here...) and so on.
Compare trying to figure out "how much do I need to pay to get what?" with your eyes jumping left-right down a whole screenful of lines...
...to just running your eyes down a nice single column that line up.
I know which one helps me-the-player out a hell of a lot more. <nod>
"A halfling magistrate picks up a small rock and throws it at a half-elven bandit in a valiant effort to subdue him." -- sig line
Oh! I didn't even see this before.
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Shout out to OotS:
https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0745.html
Oh! I didn't even see this before.
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Shout out to OotS:
https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0745.html
>> Compare trying to figure out "how much do I need to pay to get what?" with your eyes jumping left-right down a whole screenful of lines...
...to just running your eyes down a nice single column that line up.
I made an Excel spreadsheet to manage my CMAN and SHIELD training. Let me know if you'd like for to send you a copy.
-- Robert
>> A halfling magistrate picks up a small rock and throws it at a half-elven bandit in a valiant effort to subdue him.
...to just running your eyes down a nice single column that line up.
I made an Excel spreadsheet to manage my CMAN and SHIELD training. Let me know if you'd like for to send you a copy.
-- Robert
>> A halfling magistrate picks up a small rock and throws it at a half-elven bandit in a valiant effort to subdue him.
I am open to alphabetizing the list. I might also look into implementing fixedwidth columns so it looks a bit more like a table if I find the time.
> Meraki – Greek Word of the day – Doing something with love, passion, and a lot of soul. It is what happens when you leave a piece of yourself (your soul, creativity, or love) in your work.
> Meraki – Greek Word of the day – Doing something with love, passion, and a lot of soul. It is what happens when you leave a piece of yourself (your soul, creativity, or love) in your work.
"I am open to alphabetizing the list. I might also look into implementing fixedwidth columns so it looks a bit more like a table if I find the time." -- Meraki, #921
Not sure if I ever lavished applause for this, but a great big "THANK YOU!!" for making this danged information actually legible nowadays. CMan & Ascension both are nice and easy to work with. (I don't think I even have anyone who is trained in Shields, at this point, to look over there.)
Not sure if I ever lavished applause for this, but a great big "THANK YOU!!" for making this danged information actually legible nowadays. CMan & Ascension both are nice and easy to work with. (I don't think I even have anyone who is trained in Shields, at this point, to look over there.)
