Is it a safe assumption that some of the Arcane Circle will belong to the Mental sphere as well?

~ Lumi

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"Evarin, you're partially right. (I swear, if that ends up being a profile quote for you, I will call down fire from the heavens.)" <Auchand>

You quietly whisper to Zhelas, "I AM Betty freakin Crocker!" <Rheisia>

Found one bronze square already, and several scrolls. Fun stuff.

The flaming aura used to be kind of a blue flame hovering over your head, that would at random lash out at someone/something in the room, and was commonly found in the form of a granite triangle. I'd guess none of that has changed much. I did find one scroll with that spell on it, but sold it so I didn't have the chance to test it out.

Kerl

I predict hilariousness at merchant events on IFW as people run in.

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You search the sea griffin.
It had a wooden arrow, a wooden arrow.
It had a white gryphon's wing shell on it!

It would be nice if the applicable activation method (MIU or Arcane Symbols) factored into how often, and how strong it flared. The higher your activation roll, the more often/deadly the flares.

>It doesn't lash out at grouped PCs.

Ahh. I was told differently, but I've yet to see one in action.

I guess one would still need to be cautious about hunting in a crowded area.

~ Lumi

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"Evarin, you're partially right. (I swear, if that ends up being a profile quote for you, I will call down fire from the heavens.)" <Auchand>

You quietly whisper to Zhelas, "I AM Betty freakin Crocker!" <Rheisia>

Since I said the same thing last week, I agree strongly with Virilneus about this! :)

The problems of the granite triangle were legion:
- it lasted a long time, so you would frequently forget you were wearing it by the time you got back to town;
- the time between flares was absurdly long;
- much of the time the flares would choose their random target... as the dead creature in the room. <snort>

Some fixes (in no particular order):
+ remove from the "potential target" list any creature/PC that is already dead;
+ (with below) shorten the total time;
+ (with above) shorten the strike interval;
+ have degree-of-success be a factor, either increasing number of strikes within the same time period(further shortening strike interval) or else keeping the strike interval the same and lengthening the duration;
+ (repeat from last week's post) allow the spell to be cast offensively at a target as a CS/TD spell, which puts the aura pointed inward at the target and releases all the strikes very quickly [kind of like how high-Lore causes rapid strikes from Call Lightning];
+ <others I haven't thought of yet>.

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But yeah, if it was just a copy/paste of the existing granite triangle code?
Then there's another "crapshoot way of getting killed through no fault of my own because someone else walked into town and forgot about the useless effect they had on them" added back to the game to no good purpose.

Could bronze squares please be wearable?

They're kinda pointless otherwise.

-E

>We had considered this, but we feel the disadvantage of no shield or second weapon is justified by the power of the spell. The proper use of a mass disabler can usually offset the loss of defense from not having a shield.

The potential of being stuck in up to 15 seconds of hard RT without a shield is enough to ensure that I would never use a bronze square in a real combat situation. Great toy for polearm and THW users, but useless for shield or TWC builds.


Droit

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A drunken sailor wanders by, muttering about some "accursed kids" and "their dog."

That, and castable from Fashionable Gift/1750 invokes. :)

<< The potential of being stuck in up to 15 seconds of hard RT without a shield is enough to ensure that I would never use a bronze square in a real combat situation. Great toy for polearm and THW users, but useless for shield or TWC builds. >> --Droit

Do bronze squares crumble after their last charge?

I didn't say it was perfect; I said it was an option. :)

And who's to say that the spell isn't able to be other-cast; the only reason we currently think of it as self-cast only is because it's only ever been found in rubbable-only items.

>And who's to say that the spell isn't able to be other-cast; the only reason we currently think of it as self-cast only is because it's only ever been found in rubbable-only items.

I sure as hell hope it's only self-cast. The potential for abuse is FAAAR too great otherwise.


Droit

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A drunken sailor wanders by, muttering about some "accursed kids" and "their dog."

If they only have one charge and they crumble after using that charge, then doesn't that take care of the issue?

>Yes: under their initial release I found at least two (2) that had two (2) charges, one of which had at least three (3).
>(Which was a pleasant surprise to a claidhmore-swinger, I assure you. :) <Krakii>

I'm curious...if a character had a claidh in the right hand, and a square in the left, and rubbed the square...and it DIDN'T crumble...wouldn't that impose a massive AS penalty for not having the left hand free?

~ Lumi

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"Evarin, you're partially right. (I swear, if that ends up being a profile quote for you, I will call down fire from the heavens.)" <Auchand>

You quietly whisper to Zhelas, "I AM Betty freakin Crocker!" <Rheisia>

Like I said, a great toy for THW and polearm users, but too dangerous for anyone else to use effectively.

Droit

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A drunken sailor wanders by, muttering about some "accursed kids" and "their dog."

<<We had considered this, but we feel the disadvantage of no shield or second weapon is justified by the power of the spell. The proper use of a mass disabler can usually offset the loss of defense from not having a shield.

The problem at high levels is that it isn't really a mass disabler because so many critters don't stun, or shake stuns automatically. If I use it in a room full of triton radicals and combatants, I may end up doing 60 points of damage to everything, but none are going to stun, and none will actually be disabled.

-Grendeg

<<"The proper use of a mass disabler can usually offset the loss of defense from not having a shield." != V'tull's Fury is a mass disabler.

I see now. You were referring to a mass disabler being used and then a bronze square after that. However, at lower levels, it would be fair to consider a bronze square a mass disabler. A warrior using it against krolvin for example probably would get a stun against everything, and would thus be fine for the duration.

But in any case, I still see a problem with that reasoning -- there's no such thing as a "mass disabler" for squares, and a pure won't have the physical attack to use it after they use a mass disabler. Again, it seems best suited for semis. Which I suppose isn't a problem if that's what's intended, as long as you realize that it's never going to be much more than a curiosity for squares above 20th level -- unless they're so spelled up that they don't have to worry anyway.

-Grendeg

<<Swinging empaths could use it just fine.

Good point. Empaths are so powerful in both respects these days, I sort of mentally classify them as semis, to be honest.

-Grendeg

>Hmm, it seems odd that THW-users should have access to their primary defense skill (Dodge) during V'Tull's Fury while other melee builders do not (Shield Use/THW).

Why?

Going further, I find it odd that sword/board users can train in both shield skill AND dodge skill and receive a benefit, while 2hd/2hd polearm users don't have two skills to train in for defense.


-farmer

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Maleenor says, "And sent by my people to be a beacon of light..."

Fanahn raspily asks, "Bacon from where?"

Let's fight!

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1.) 2-handed weapons get +50% on their parry defense.

2.) 2-handed weapons are considerably stronger than 1-handers. You get extra offensive power at the cost of some defensive power.

-Grendeg

I was being sarcastic..

However!

1. And what do OHE users get for parry? 2hd-ers still have no secondary skill to train in for a usable benefit.
2. And ambushers get to ambush at the cost of zero loss of defensive power. What's your point?


-farmer

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Maleenor says, "And sent by my people to be a beacon of light..."

Fanahn raspily asks, "Bacon from where?"

Let's fight!

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