Since there seems to be less of a desire to keep lore effects shrouded in mystery these days (THANK YOU!), would a GM care to comment on how training Mental Lore, Manipulation affects failures when using 1004? I've got a young bard that I'm working on and I've been torn between continuing to training air lore for the combat effects or grabbing some manipulation lore for assistance when purifying gems. The bard is a dwarf with a low influence. I need all of the help I can get. I looked on the wiki, but it doesn't seem like the exact effect is known at this time. Understanding how it works on the back end would help inform that decision.

Glurph

>wtrick tslice
You try to stuff your razern morning star in your ear.

> I always stop at the very first 'hum' message (color-coded 'yellow' on my FE).

I used to do this, but I blew up too many gems for my taste even if the net result was an increase in overall value. Now I stop when I expect the first hum, even if it didn't actually hum. (e.g. if a 4000 silver diamond normally hums on the 5th song, I stop after 5 songs on a 4000 silver diamond whether or not the 5th actually was a hum.) Fumbles can still happen, but that change got rid of almost all my explosions.

I think lore is more about whether it goes bang once in the danger area than shifting the danger area. i.e I think my lore affects whether it goes bang at the hum level, rather than the level of purity that generates a hum, but I've not done the FIXSKILL to prove it.

> Since there seems to be less of a desire to keep lore effects shrouded in mystery these days (THANK YOU!), would a GM care to comment on how training Mental Lore, Manipulation affects failures when using 1004?

I can do that!

The chance of failure for 1004 is reduced by 3% per seed 1 ranks in Mental Lore, Manipulation.

~ Konacon

And, while you're digging around with Manipulation Lore...

How about VibChant/1002?

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"Since I was just looking at the VibChant/1002 page on GSWiki, I know it's talking about <some range of X-to-Y ranks of ML:Manipulation> providing <Z amount of Endroll pushdown> for effect. Ranks above fifteen (>15) are in the "unknown/no research" category.
Any chance of getting The Word on just how much benefit each rank of Manipulation affects the eER (effective EndRoll) in that calculation?" -- Me, in http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Bards/Bard%20Magic,%20Spells,%20and%20Spellsongs/view/475

> 3% per step?
> So it's the same "speed" of progress--just with a different Lore--as the second-flares from Sonic Weapon/1012 (3% from Seed1, using EL:Air).

It's 3% at 1 rank, 6% at 3 ranks, 9% at 6 ranks, 12% at 10 ranks, etc.

~ Konacon