~*~ August Contest Announced ~*~ on 08/12/2015 04:43 PM CDT
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** I Dub Thee **

The members of Four Winds Hall are among the best-known adventurers in the land – and
now we can show it off! We currently have access to a huge list of post name titles
and also some of our very own prename titles. For this contest you will design new
Premium titles. The titles must not conflict with any existing obtainable titles
for either pre or post name. See below for additional details.

Here are the requirements:
1) Design a prename title
2) Design a postname title
3) Design one more title of your choosing (please specify pre or post name)

Please note: The current list of titles can be found with PREMIUM 11 in game.

Entries that do not include all three requirements will not be considered eligible.
Contestants have until midnight PT on August 31, 2015 to get entries to me.

Ten winners will be chosen from the submitted entries.

Like all Premium Monthly Contests, entries are subject to change based on the discretion
of the GMs and QC. Entries will be judged during the first week of September. Jainna
will not judge this contest except in the rare case of a tie. The winners will be
announced as soon as possible afterwards. Jainna reserves the right to make any changes
to items that she or QC deems necessary.

Please direct any questions to the Premium Contests folder on the official message boards.

REMINDERS: THERE IS NO GUARANTEE ANY WINNING ITEM WILL BE CREATED IN GAME!
USE THE FORM IN PREMIUM 6 WHEN SENDING YOUR CONTEST ENTRY!

~Just Jainna
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Re: ~*~ August Contest Announced ~*~ on 08/25/2015 07:04 AM CDT
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Looking at the current list "Master" seems to be in conflict with quite a lot of existing post name titles. The guild system and the monk profession both require considerable status rather than male gender for Master titles.
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Re: ~*~ August Contest Announced ~*~ on 08/25/2015 10:49 AM CDT
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Such a wealth of choices limited to three per account! Submission sent.

Chad, player of a few
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Re: ~*~ August Contest Announced ~*~ on 08/25/2015 06:02 PM CDT
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The "Master" prename title is a way of addressing someone that has nothing to do with their skills.

Wikipedia says:
"After its replacement in common speech by Mister, Master was retained as a form of address only for boys who have not yet entered society. By the late 19th century, etiquette dictated that men be addressed as Mister, and boys as Master."

That's how I think of it, anyway... another way of saying "mister."

~Just Jainna
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Re: ~*~ August Contest Announced ~*~ on 08/26/2015 04:47 AM CDT
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Aye. It's like Miss and Mrs, before and after marriage.

Example: Master Wayne in Batman. Not because it is servant/master, but because Bruce Wayne is an unmarried gentleman.

This isn't normal!
What do you mean this isn't normal!?!
This is way worse!!
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Re: ~*~ August Contest Announced ~*~ on 08/26/2015 08:27 AM CDT
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Except even "Miss" is a shortened form of Mistress. Youths were called Master and Mistress, before they had had the opportunity to go off and achieve other titles in later years.

We're just so darn lazy that we keep short. & abbr. evthng. <nod>
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Re: ~*~ August Contest Announced ~*~ on 08/26/2015 10:01 AM CDT
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According to the almighty internet, Mrs is the shortened version of mistress! Mrs was used for both married and unmarried women until the 17th century when it split to Mrs and Miss.

~Just Jainna
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Re: ~*~ August Contest Announced ~*~ on 08/27/2015 12:12 AM CDT
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Whats the list look like so far? I want to confirm my entries are accounted for! thanks!
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Re: ~*~ August Contest Announced ~*~ on 08/30/2015 12:53 PM CDT
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Wikipedia says:
"After its replacement in common speech by Mister, Master was retained as a form of address only for boys who have not yet entered society. By the late 19th century, etiquette dictated that men be addressed as Mister, and boys as Master."

I fail to see how this does anything other than reinforce that its inappropriate for general use by male characters. 19th century is rather modern for the game, and boys who are not yet ready to take their place in society are not available to to be played as characters. Master is widely used in game as a title in its earlier sense of indicating status in society and using it in the modern sense is both in conflict with that and with the requirement that player characters are adults.
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Re: ~*~ August Contest Announced ~*~ on 08/30/2015 04:29 PM CDT
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>>I fail to see how this does anything other than reinforce that its inappropriate for general use by male characters.

I was merely pointing out that it doesn't conflict with the various "Master" postname titles because it's usage is totally different.

>>19th century is rather modern for the game, and boys who are not yet ready to take their place in society are not available to to be played as characters.

That snippet from Wikipedia said that AFTER the 19th century it was used that way. Prior to that Wikipedia says - "Master was used in England for men of some rank, especially "free masters" of a trade guild and by any manual worker or servant employee addressing his employer (his master), but also generally by those lower in status to gentlemen, priests, or scholars. In the Elizabethan period, it was used between equals, especially to a group ("My masters"), mainly by urban artisans and tradespeople. It was later extended to all respectable men and was the forerunner of Mister."

Which shows why we use "Master" in postname titles like "Master Locksmith." But the latter part of the paragraph shows why it was deemed acceptable for use as a prename title in our Elanthian era. It was not always used to just address boys, but I found that part of wikipedia more succinct to illustrate my original point (differentiating it from the postname Masters).

~Just Jainna
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