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Might be kind of an odd question, but I'll ask it anyway. Do you think locksmithing is more profitable than skinning? That is, someone who maxes out locksmithing skills vs. someone that maxes out skinning skills, which one makes more silver?
You don't make much extra by being to open boxes for others. Tripling is something to do because you enjoy opening boxes, not something to make lots of money from.
Skinning and doubling are rather different ways of making money. To make the best loot from boxes you hunt critters that give good exp, but you make the best money from skins hunting critters half your level and getting no experience from it. Hunting like level critters skins and boxes are reasonably balanced. The critters with good skins usually don't have any other treasure.
However, you will make money from picking skills at lower level. If you want to make the most money, get picking rather than skinning skills at low level, and fixskill to a skinner once you have advanced to as high a level you want to.
Skinning and doubling are rather different ways of making money. To make the best loot from boxes you hunt critters that give good exp, but you make the best money from skins hunting critters half your level and getting no experience from it. Hunting like level critters skins and boxes are reasonably balanced. The critters with good skins usually don't have any other treasure.
However, you will make money from picking skills at lower level. If you want to make the most money, get picking rather than skinning skills at low level, and fixskill to a skinner once you have advanced to as high a level you want to.
>>>Are you saying that the value of boxes diminishes as you level (relative to lower levels) or that you're just able to grab a lot more skins because you*'*re underhunting to get them? ~NINJAGAR
Yeah, the part I bolded above.
By the way, one can 2.5(+) in picking/disarming, get lores and single in First Aid, without harming their core skills.
No, a singler's skins won't be super maximum quality, but they will net a nice profit that you would not have, had you not at least singled in First Aid.
Again, it's quite doable without giving up core skills. And if you have to miss a few levels of training in First Aid, no one said you can't make them up later. You also get the secondary benefit of training in First Aid. It takes less time to consume healing herbs and you get a reduction for tending times to wounds.
Don't forget also, training in survival, in regards to skinning, is like training in First Aid. So when one starts to pay the cost of doubling First Aid, most switch (well the point conscious ones do) to training in survival instead.
Since the cost of doubling in survival becomes more than doubling in First Aid, most then switch back to doubling First Aid.
By the way, by the time you are fully singled in First Aid and Survival, if that is the route you choose to go, you're usually at or near cap.
I could invoke all common defensive scrolls, 401-414, 103-107 and skin most like leveled creatures before level 40. I was able to fully double my core skills. I knew lock and trap lores and I trippled picking and disarming.
For the record, I was not able to do War Griffin bounties (skinning) until I was fully singled in First Aid and almost fully singled in survival, which would be equivilent to fully doubled in either.
What sort of quality are my Griffin Talons? Most of the time, they're high end. Not maximum mind you, but acceptable enough for this Jack of Many Trades, Rogue and very acceptable for bounty requirements.
~Lori aka Horsefreak (One of the Many)
Yeah, the part I bolded above.
By the way, one can 2.5(+) in picking/disarming, get lores and single in First Aid, without harming their core skills.
No, a singler's skins won't be super maximum quality, but they will net a nice profit that you would not have, had you not at least singled in First Aid.
Again, it's quite doable without giving up core skills. And if you have to miss a few levels of training in First Aid, no one said you can't make them up later. You also get the secondary benefit of training in First Aid. It takes less time to consume healing herbs and you get a reduction for tending times to wounds.
Don't forget also, training in survival, in regards to skinning, is like training in First Aid. So when one starts to pay the cost of doubling First Aid, most switch (well the point conscious ones do) to training in survival instead.
Since the cost of doubling in survival becomes more than doubling in First Aid, most then switch back to doubling First Aid.
By the way, by the time you are fully singled in First Aid and Survival, if that is the route you choose to go, you're usually at or near cap.
I could invoke all common defensive scrolls, 401-414, 103-107 and skin most like leveled creatures before level 40. I was able to fully double my core skills. I knew lock and trap lores and I trippled picking and disarming.
For the record, I was not able to do War Griffin bounties (skinning) until I was fully singled in First Aid and almost fully singled in survival, which would be equivilent to fully doubled in either.
What sort of quality are my Griffin Talons? Most of the time, they're high end. Not maximum mind you, but acceptable enough for this Jack of Many Trades, Rogue and very acceptable for bounty requirements.
~Lori aka Horsefreak (One of the Many)
>>able to grab a lot more skins because you*'*re underhunting
I wouldn't exactly say this is true. If you are good at skinning you can find things like level or even over hunting with good skins. To hunt some of the creatures with the best skins for your level you'd have to be willing to travel around a bit though.
>>but they will net a nice profit that you would not have
This is important to note, when you are skinning you are generating a profit you wouldn't have had other wise. When you are picking your own boxes, you are saving yourself silvers. However, like Rathboner hinted most skins at the lower levels aren't worth much so you will in most cases save more silvers opening your boxes vs what you'd generate skinning. Once you get up to 30-40 though you can start finding creatures with good skins. And quite a few of them are mixed in with creatures that do drop boxes.
And something else to consider is the fact that you will get better treasure when overhunting. This is important because some of that treasure will include enhansives which can net you millions with the right properties. You won't always find them but as long as you are consistent with overhunt you will find enough of them along with everything else to make it worth your while. For skins if you are good you can skin well when overhunting but better skins will come the closer you get in level to the creature you are skinning.
I wouldn't exactly say this is true. If you are good at skinning you can find things like level or even over hunting with good skins. To hunt some of the creatures with the best skins for your level you'd have to be willing to travel around a bit though.
>>but they will net a nice profit that you would not have
This is important to note, when you are skinning you are generating a profit you wouldn't have had other wise. When you are picking your own boxes, you are saving yourself silvers. However, like Rathboner hinted most skins at the lower levels aren't worth much so you will in most cases save more silvers opening your boxes vs what you'd generate skinning. Once you get up to 30-40 though you can start finding creatures with good skins. And quite a few of them are mixed in with creatures that do drop boxes.
And something else to consider is the fact that you will get better treasure when overhunting. This is important because some of that treasure will include enhansives which can net you millions with the right properties. You won't always find them but as long as you are consistent with overhunt you will find enough of them along with everything else to make it worth your while. For skins if you are good you can skin well when overhunting but better skins will come the closer you get in level to the creature you are skinning.
