I don't think so. You just get base duration.

That's what I thought was the case, but I wasn't sure.

Would it be possible to apply the same logic as the scroll use formula to increase duration, Estild, considering the inherent difficulty in aquiring spells using 208? A little more reward for the potential risk, and all that.

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"The abuse of greatness is when it disjoins remorse from power" - William Shakespeare

The spell already has an arcane symbols aspect to it. Arcane symbols raises the RS (Rune Strength) of the caster. I think it should pretty much mirror the scroll formula for increasing duration. If it needs to be more balanced than that, it could give half the benefit using the same formula.

As it stands, the spell allows for the inclusion of lore benefits, but doesn't extend duration based on any formula. While I am definately happy that it has the ability to include lore benefits, I think it's a little cart before the horse.

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>>I always thought Empaths/Clerics needed more reasons to train up their 200's circle. This certainly wouldn't be worth it alone, but one more drop in the bucket wouldn't hurt.

I agree, I like the idea of the 200s training better than the AS for any chance at increased duration. There are a lot of great spells in the 200s list that I think people forget about.

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>>I'm not sure I like the idea of extending the duration of stolen spells. The spell already has a questionable abuse status when used between players<<

I'm not really sure I understand how one precludes the other from happening. The people who want to do what you term abuse to this system via MA's or friends are going to, regardless of the duration they get per cast.

That being said, I have no real intention of persuing this matter further if you don't believe it's in the best interests of the spell as it exists currently.

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"The abuse of greatness is when it disjoins remorse from power" - William Shakespeare

I think it is not duration, but CS or AS boosts that fit this best.

How about when you steal a spell off a critter, you also steal some of its ability to cast it, so you can use it with an enhanced CS or AS? Or how about the penalty for using spells on yourself getting applied to the critter when a stolen spell was cast back at it?

You gesture at XXXXXXX.

CS: +418 - TD: +73 + CvA: +12 + d100: +40 - +5 == +392

Warding failed!

[Rune Strength 66 - 49 Steal Spell Difficulty = 17]

As you concentrate and begin chanting, a luminescent aura lashes out to encircle XXXXXX.

XXXXXXX gasps in agony as the aura completely envelops her.

The aura grows brighter then disappears in a brilliant flash.You feel the surge of magic depart.

You seem to glow with power and the knowledge of XXXXXXXXXXX.

Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

I imagine having 515 removed is intentional, but I would be remiss if I didn't ask and post.

So, is the removal of 515 upon successful theft of a spell via 208 intended?

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"The abuse of greatness is when it disjoins remorse from power" - William Shakespeare

I know this is a horse beat to death, but I would very much like to see this spell gain the ability to harvest mana from stolen spells. It SOUNDS like it can be abused, but this would be very easily curtailed by having a timer on how often one can do it. Twenty Minutes is more than enough time to ensure that this function is not abused, but I would rather a diminishing returns system kick in like Mana Leech. Obviously, I do not expect the spell to garner as much mana as Leech, but even partial returns on stolen spells would be a dramatic improvement IMO.