402 scroll on 01/06/2015 10:29 AM CST
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Can something get done so that 402 doesn't generate the abominable amounts of scroll that happens when high level squares are preparing for a bandit hunt? If its design means its not supposed to be able to be stacked for a long duration, make it refreshable only, and if it is supposed to be stackable for long durations, give it a sensible duration off a single action even if that action is incant 402 99 rather than changing the duraction for a single cast.
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Re: 402 scroll on 01/06/2015 11:36 AM CST
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I really pushed for this when the spell durations/mana spellup were rolled in and was flatly denied. I'd still love for this to change as well. Even something like a flat 10 minute duration would do wonders
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Re: 402 scroll on 02/07/2015 12:39 PM CST
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I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but 402 is 95% a pile of crap.

402 overhaul: approve

This pointed issue of 402: low concern



>Kayse scrambles to avoid being sucked into the void!
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Re: 402 scroll on 02/07/2015 12:43 PM CST
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and for what it's worth, I believe 404 and 402 and be wrapped together and free the slot



>Kayse scrambles to avoid being sucked into the void!
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Re: 402 scroll on 02/07/2015 06:24 PM CST
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>> I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but 402 is 95% a pile of crap.

I am pretty certain there haven't been any 402 parades since we rolled to GS IV. And your statistic is off by about 4.9%.

-- Robert

"Wyrom isn't interacting with me, I think he is AFK scripting."
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Re: 402 scroll on 02/07/2015 08:53 PM CST
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Oh, I dunno. Seems to me like bandits are easier, and Methias can't hide as easily (even though he believes he did, heh) in front of me.

There are uses, I think the duration is what most don't like.

Doug
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Re: 402 scroll on 02/07/2015 09:05 PM CST
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Heh. My mistake. I thought we were talking about 502 here...

I retract my statements and apply them to 502 - Spell Store. I actually like 402 - Presence for a number of reasons.

-- Robert

"Wyrom isn't interacting with me, I think he is AFK scripting."
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Re: 402 scroll on 02/08/2015 08:12 AM CST
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Utility spells in general seems to be intended to have a short duration. Off the top of my head:

402 - Presence
403 - Lock Pick Enhancement
404 - Disarm Enhancement
603 - Foraging
604 - Skinning

Interestingly, in some respects I would have placed 104 - Disease Resistance and 105 - Poison Resistance in the same category (I am not advocating that the duration on these spell be reduced) so maybe there is hope for 402, 403, 404 in the upcoming elemental lore review.

As suggested, I would agree that "Incant 402 x" should work to cast the spell for an extended duration based on Mana Control training as it does for other spells. This feels like more of a bug than a design intent in my book as I can't think of a logical reason for excluding it from this feature.

As a side note, utility spells is one of the areas where using 1750 - Fash'lo'nae's Gift really shines vs. casting them from a scroll or magic item in that you can give yourself up to four hours of a utility spell with one use of 1750 vs. having to use a large number of casts off a scroll/magic item (mileage may vary based on your skill in casting 1750).

-- Robert

"Wyrom isn't interacting with me, I think he is AFK scripting."
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Re: 402 scroll on 02/09/2015 10:03 PM CST
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I dunno, I get like 20 minutes duration of 603 off a scroll.



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