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Ok, other than the fact one monk is male and the other female, 2 EXACT same monks, same starting stats, same race, both wearing 4x handwraps, both running wizard strength and 2 ranks surge. Both the exact same train and the exact same skills training. The only difference is about 200 exp. Yet the one that's 200 exp higher has a UAF 1 lower than the other monk. We went through it from head to toe on every skill, stat, and item. We even traded items thinking maybe something was enhancive. Nope. The UAF difference persists. Any ideas why?
-Anonymous
Same combat maneuver training and CMAN skills?
Does one have the Perfect Self combat maneuver increasing stats, and the other not?
Just curious.
-Marstreforn-
A kobold points at you and yells, "Mine! Chasin!"
A kobold swings a short sword at itself!
Blow glances off the kobold's shoulder.
The kobold blushes furiously!
Does one have the Perfect Self combat maneuver increasing stats, and the other not?
Just curious.
-Marstreforn-
A kobold points at you and yells, "Mine! Chasin!"
A kobold swings a short sword at itself!
Blow glances off the kobold's shoulder.
The kobold blushes furiously!
100% same skills/stats/training
CMANS are currently surge and burst. Both characters have the exact same ranks in surge and burst. Literally there is ZERO difference between the 2 besides gender. If you want to be even thrown more for a loop, the difference did not occur at a training. It occured mid-level. The female character is my wife's, the male is mine. We logged off two nights ago dead even, log in with the 1 point difference. Trained today, still 1 point different.
-Anonymous
CMANS are currently surge and burst. Both characters have the exact same ranks in surge and burst. Literally there is ZERO difference between the 2 besides gender. If you want to be even thrown more for a loop, the difference did not occur at a training. It occured mid-level. The female character is my wife's, the male is mine. We logged off two nights ago dead even, log in with the 1 point difference. Trained today, still 1 point different.
-Anonymous
>Same amount of recent deaths? Same amount of migration? Encumberance?
Zero. Zero. None. (Even went so far as to strip both characters of everything.)
Character weight? Um the change happened mid level when no enhancives nor any stat changes were made. Literally almost dead set halfway through a level. Logged out one day, same UAF. Logged in the next day UAF different by 1.
>The formula is published so you can work out which (if either) is right.
Link?
-Anonymous
Zero. Zero. None. (Even went so far as to strip both characters of everything.)
Character weight? Um the change happened mid level when no enhancives nor any stat changes were made. Literally almost dead set halfway through a level. Logged out one day, same UAF. Logged in the next day UAF different by 1.
>The formula is published so you can work out which (if either) is right.
Link?
-Anonymous
(Brawling Ranks × 2) + (CM Ranks / 2) + (STR bonus / 2) + (AGI bonus / 2) + (glove/boot enchant bonus/es) + (AVG held weapon enchant bonus / 2)
32 brawl ranks
16 cm ranks
-3 str bonus
33 agi bonus
4x gloves and boots
no weapon
(64) + (8) + (0) + (17) + (40) + (0) = 129. of if the - str bonus counts (64) + (8) + (-1 or -2) + (17) + (40) + (0) = 128 or 127 (In the first one I assumed truncation, second equation added the neg str for rounding up and truncating)
They're running 134 and 135 UAF respecively. I'm thinking the extra UAF is from wizard strength? It's the only AS boost they're running at the moment. Either way, the female character is 1 higher than it should be, I believe. Anyone care to comment or help?
-Anonymous
32 brawl ranks
16 cm ranks
-3 str bonus
33 agi bonus
4x gloves and boots
no weapon
(64) + (8) + (0) + (17) + (40) + (0) = 129. of if the - str bonus counts (64) + (8) + (-1 or -2) + (17) + (40) + (0) = 128 or 127 (In the first one I assumed truncation, second equation added the neg str for rounding up and truncating)
They're running 134 and 135 UAF respecively. I'm thinking the extra UAF is from wizard strength? It's the only AS boost they're running at the moment. Either way, the female character is 1 higher than it should be, I believe. Anyone care to comment or help?
-Anonymous
>>They're running 134 and 135 UAF respecively. I'm thinking the extra UAF is from wizard strength? It's the only AS boost they're running at the moment. Either way, the female character is 1 higher than it should be, I believe. Anyone care to comment or help?
All temporary AS boosters add the same amount to UAF as AS, so Strength (509) adds +15.
You may also be experiencing a different UAF if you use society bonuses that differ, such as from being at different ranks in Voln and using Symbol of Courage.
It might help to just post the output from the following commands for each character. INFO, SKILL, CMAN INFO, INVENTORY and SPELL ACTIVE.
GameMaster Oscuro
All temporary AS boosters add the same amount to UAF as AS, so Strength (509) adds +15.
You may also be experiencing a different UAF if you use society bonuses that differ, such as from being at different ranks in Voln and using Symbol of Courage.
It might help to just post the output from the following commands for each character. INFO, SKILL, CMAN INFO, INVENTORY and SPELL ACTIVE.
GameMaster Oscuro
>You may also be experiencing a different UAF if you use society bonuses that differ, such as from being at different ranks in Voln and using Symbol of Courage.
I will post everything you listed, INFO, SKILL, CMAN INFO, INVENTORY and SPELL ACTIVE. You will indeed see that they are 100% identical in all aspects an in every facet besides the UAF being different and the genders being different. Listings follow.
INFO
Name: XXXXX Race: Elf Profession: Monk
Gender: Male Age: 325 Expr: 253433 Level: 14
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 44 (-3) ... 44 (-3)
Constitution (CON): 88 (19) ... 88 (19)
Dexterity (DEX): 47 (4) ... 47 (4)
Agility (AGI): 87 (33) ... 87 (33)
Discipline (DIS): 92 (6) ... 92 (6)
Aura (AUR): 73 (16) ... 73 (16)
Logic (LOG): 92 (21) ... 92 (21)
Intuition (INT): 74 (12) ... 74 (12)
Wisdom (WIS): 91 (20) ... 91 (20)
Influence (INF): 34 (2) ... 34 (2)
Mana: 36
Name: XXXXX Race: Elf Profession: Monk
Gender: Female Age: 179 Expr: 252694 Level: 14
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 44 (-3) ... 44 (-3)
Constitution (CON): 88 (19) ... 88 (19)
Dexterity (DEX): 47 (4) ... 47 (4)
Agility (AGI): 87 (33) ... 87 (33)
Discipline (DIS): 92 (6) ... 92 (6)
Aura (AUR): 73 (16) ... 73 (16)
Logic (LOG): 92 (21) ... 92 (21)
Intuition (INT): 74 (12) ... 74 (12)
Wisdom (WIS): 91 (20) ... 91 (20)
Influence (INF): 34 (2) ... 34 (2)
Mana: 36
SKILL
Male character
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Combat Maneuvers...................| 74 16
Brawling...........................| 124 32
Physical Fitness...................| 74 16
Dodging............................| 124 32
Harness Power......................| 45 9
Mental Lore - Transformation.......| 40 8
Perception.........................| 50 10
Climbing...........................| 50 10
Swimming...........................| 50 10
Spell Lists
Minor Mental.......................| 14
Training Points: 91 Phy 0 Mnt (358 Phy converted to Mnt)
Female character
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Combat Maneuvers...................| 74 16
Brawling...........................| 124 32
Physical Fitness...................| 74 16
Dodging............................| 124 32
Harness Power......................| 45 9
Mental Lore - Transformation.......| 40 8
Perception.........................| 50 10
Climbing...........................| 50 10
Swimming...........................| 50 10
Spell Lists
Minor Mental.......................| 14
Training Points: 88 Phy 0 Mnt (360 Phy converted to Mnt)
CMAN INFO
Male, your Combat Maneuver training is as follows:
Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Surge of Strength surge 2
Burst of Swiftness burst 2
Available Combat Maneuver Training Points: 4
Female, your Combat Maneuver training is as follows:
Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Surge of Strength surge 2
Burst of Swiftness burst 2
Available Combat Maneuver Training Points: 4
SPELL ACTIVE
Male
You currently have the following active spells:
Strength
Spirit Shield
Thurfel's Ward
Iron Skin
Mind over Body
Elemental Defense II
Elemental Defense I
Dragonclaw
Foresight
Mass Blur
Elemental Defense III
Spirit Warding II
Mindward
Spirit Warding I
Spirit Defense
Female
You currently have the following active spells:
Iron Skin
Foresight
Spirit Shield
Mass Blur
Spirit Warding II
Elemental Defense III
Thurfel's Ward
Dragonclaw
Mind over Body
Mindward
Strength
Elemental Defense II
Elemental Defense I
Spirit Warding I
Spirit Defense
SOCIETY
Male
Current society status:
You are a member in the Order of Voln at step 8.
You have learned and are able to use the following abilities:
Symbol of Recognition
Symbol of Blessing
Symbol of Thought
Symbol of Diminishment
Symbol of Courage
Symbol of Protection
Symbol of Submission
Kai's Strike
Female
Current society status:
You are a member in the Order of Voln at step 8.
You have learned and are able to use the following abilities:
Symbol of Recognition
Symbol of Blessing
Symbol of Thought
Symbol of Diminishment
Symbol of Courage
Symbol of Protection
Symbol of Submission
Kai's Strike
INVENTORY
Male
You are wearing some leather handwraps and some leather footwraps.
Click INVENTORY HELP for more options.
You adjust your gear comfortably and feel satisfied that you are not encumbered enough to notice.
Female
You are wearing some leather handwraps and some leather footwraps.
Click INVENTORY HELP for more options.
You adjust your gear comfortably and feel satisfied that you are not encumbered enough to notice.
ATTACK - other than the spells listed above, no societal powers or any other means of attacking was used besides bare hands with the hand and footwraps worn. Each character had no silver on their person and a full head of mana.
Male
You attempt to jab a critter!
You have decent positioning against a critter.
UAF: 134 vs UDF: 14 = 2.000 (capped) * MM: 89 + d100: 5 = 183
... and hit for 9 points of damage!
Fast slap to left arm knocks it out of position!
The critter starts to favor its wounded arm!
Strike leaves foe vulnerable to a followup punch attack!
Roundtime: 3 sec.
Female
You attempt to jab a critter!
You have decent positioning against a critter.
UAF: 135 vs UDF: 14 = 2.000 (capped) * MM: 89 + d100: 9 = 187
... and hit for 11 points of damage!
Quick blow to left knee makes the critter wince!
The critter starts to favor its wounded leg!
Roundtime: 3 sec.
As you can see they have different UAF. I'd love to know why there's a difference with all factors I can figure out being 100% identical.
-Anonymous
I will post everything you listed, INFO, SKILL, CMAN INFO, INVENTORY and SPELL ACTIVE. You will indeed see that they are 100% identical in all aspects an in every facet besides the UAF being different and the genders being different. Listings follow.
INFO
Name: XXXXX Race: Elf Profession: Monk
Gender: Male Age: 325 Expr: 253433 Level: 14
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 44 (-3) ... 44 (-3)
Constitution (CON): 88 (19) ... 88 (19)
Dexterity (DEX): 47 (4) ... 47 (4)
Agility (AGI): 87 (33) ... 87 (33)
Discipline (DIS): 92 (6) ... 92 (6)
Aura (AUR): 73 (16) ... 73 (16)
Logic (LOG): 92 (21) ... 92 (21)
Intuition (INT): 74 (12) ... 74 (12)
Wisdom (WIS): 91 (20) ... 91 (20)
Influence (INF): 34 (2) ... 34 (2)
Mana: 36
Name: XXXXX Race: Elf Profession: Monk
Gender: Female Age: 179 Expr: 252694 Level: 14
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 44 (-3) ... 44 (-3)
Constitution (CON): 88 (19) ... 88 (19)
Dexterity (DEX): 47 (4) ... 47 (4)
Agility (AGI): 87 (33) ... 87 (33)
Discipline (DIS): 92 (6) ... 92 (6)
Aura (AUR): 73 (16) ... 73 (16)
Logic (LOG): 92 (21) ... 92 (21)
Intuition (INT): 74 (12) ... 74 (12)
Wisdom (WIS): 91 (20) ... 91 (20)
Influence (INF): 34 (2) ... 34 (2)
Mana: 36
SKILL
Male character
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Combat Maneuvers...................| 74 16
Brawling...........................| 124 32
Physical Fitness...................| 74 16
Dodging............................| 124 32
Harness Power......................| 45 9
Mental Lore - Transformation.......| 40 8
Perception.........................| 50 10
Climbing...........................| 50 10
Swimming...........................| 50 10
Spell Lists
Minor Mental.......................| 14
Training Points: 91 Phy 0 Mnt (358 Phy converted to Mnt)
Female character
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Combat Maneuvers...................| 74 16
Brawling...........................| 124 32
Physical Fitness...................| 74 16
Dodging............................| 124 32
Harness Power......................| 45 9
Mental Lore - Transformation.......| 40 8
Perception.........................| 50 10
Climbing...........................| 50 10
Swimming...........................| 50 10
Spell Lists
Minor Mental.......................| 14
Training Points: 88 Phy 0 Mnt (360 Phy converted to Mnt)
CMAN INFO
Male, your Combat Maneuver training is as follows:
Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Surge of Strength surge 2
Burst of Swiftness burst 2
Available Combat Maneuver Training Points: 4
Female, your Combat Maneuver training is as follows:
Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Surge of Strength surge 2
Burst of Swiftness burst 2
Available Combat Maneuver Training Points: 4
SPELL ACTIVE
Male
You currently have the following active spells:
Strength
Spirit Shield
Thurfel's Ward
Iron Skin
Mind over Body
Elemental Defense II
Elemental Defense I
Dragonclaw
Foresight
Mass Blur
Elemental Defense III
Spirit Warding II
Mindward
Spirit Warding I
Spirit Defense
Female
You currently have the following active spells:
Iron Skin
Foresight
Spirit Shield
Mass Blur
Spirit Warding II
Elemental Defense III
Thurfel's Ward
Dragonclaw
Mind over Body
Mindward
Strength
Elemental Defense II
Elemental Defense I
Spirit Warding I
Spirit Defense
SOCIETY
Male
Current society status:
You are a member in the Order of Voln at step 8.
You have learned and are able to use the following abilities:
Symbol of Recognition
Symbol of Blessing
Symbol of Thought
Symbol of Diminishment
Symbol of Courage
Symbol of Protection
Symbol of Submission
Kai's Strike
Female
Current society status:
You are a member in the Order of Voln at step 8.
You have learned and are able to use the following abilities:
Symbol of Recognition
Symbol of Blessing
Symbol of Thought
Symbol of Diminishment
Symbol of Courage
Symbol of Protection
Symbol of Submission
Kai's Strike
INVENTORY
Male
You are wearing some leather handwraps and some leather footwraps.
Click INVENTORY HELP for more options.
You adjust your gear comfortably and feel satisfied that you are not encumbered enough to notice.
Female
You are wearing some leather handwraps and some leather footwraps.
Click INVENTORY HELP for more options.
You adjust your gear comfortably and feel satisfied that you are not encumbered enough to notice.
ATTACK - other than the spells listed above, no societal powers or any other means of attacking was used besides bare hands with the hand and footwraps worn. Each character had no silver on their person and a full head of mana.
Male
You attempt to jab a critter!
You have decent positioning against a critter.
UAF: 134 vs UDF: 14 = 2.000 (capped) * MM: 89 + d100: 5 = 183
... and hit for 9 points of damage!
Fast slap to left arm knocks it out of position!
The critter starts to favor its wounded arm!
Strike leaves foe vulnerable to a followup punch attack!
Roundtime: 3 sec.
Female
You attempt to jab a critter!
You have decent positioning against a critter.
UAF: 135 vs UDF: 14 = 2.000 (capped) * MM: 89 + d100: 9 = 187
... and hit for 11 points of damage!
Quick blow to left knee makes the critter wince!
The critter starts to favor its wounded leg!
Roundtime: 3 sec.
As you can see they have different UAF. I'd love to know why there's a difference with all factors I can figure out being 100% identical.
-Anonymous
PS - neither has had any recent deaths. The male character has never died, the female character died twice at level 0 during the Krolvin landing invasions but hasn't died since. Both characters were scar and injury free and full health and spirit when the above information and testing was done.
-Anonymous
-Anonymous
>Do you have the same results with KICK? STOP Dragonclaw and check again, maybe. They both should drop 13. - Mark
Bingo Mark. 122 and 122 when 1209 was dropped. Recast 1209 again and both are 135. Apparently I never let my dragonclaw drop and she did, so mine was still giving me bonus at the lower level. THANKS.
-Anonymous
Bingo Mark. 122 and 122 when 1209 was dropped. Recast 1209 again and both are 135. Apparently I never let my dragonclaw drop and she did, so mine was still giving me bonus at the lower level. THANKS.
-Anonymous
