During the CNN/Tea Party debate, the Republican audience cheered when the large number of executions in Texas was announced.
During the same debate, the audience shouted "let him die" when a question was asked about how to treat the uninsured.
During the Fox/Google debate, the Republican audience booed a gay soldier who submitted a Youtube question about the repeal of DADT.
Are Republicans really the party of Christians? I haven't been to a church in over a decade, so maybe I'm out of touch. Is that what Christians really believe?
Inappropriate Audience Bahavior at GOP Debates on 09/23/2011 07:21 AM CDT
Re: Inappropriate Audience Bahavior at GOP Debates on 09/23/2011 05:14 PM CDT
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Are Republicans really the party of Christians? I haven't been to a church in over a decade, so maybe I'm out of touch. Is that what Christians really believe?>>
I'd say that most Christians would want to help the sick person, but not by forcibly taking money from others. Forced charity is not charity. Also, just because one person said it, that doesn't mean all republicans believe it. I don't think all democrats believe what Obama spouts.
As for the issue with the gay soldier, well, I doubt the debate on the interpretations of the bible will ever be settled. However, those that want to force acceptance of homosexuality are doing their cause a disservice. I'd say the better route would be to show those against homosexuality a more "normal" view of gays. When you mention someone being gay, many people think of some of those people on shows like "America's Next Top Model", which many people find disturbing.
Are Republicans really the party of Christians? I haven't been to a church in over a decade, so maybe I'm out of touch. Is that what Christians really believe?>>
I'd say that most Christians would want to help the sick person, but not by forcibly taking money from others. Forced charity is not charity. Also, just because one person said it, that doesn't mean all republicans believe it. I don't think all democrats believe what Obama spouts.
As for the issue with the gay soldier, well, I doubt the debate on the interpretations of the bible will ever be settled. However, those that want to force acceptance of homosexuality are doing their cause a disservice. I'd say the better route would be to show those against homosexuality a more "normal" view of gays. When you mention someone being gay, many people think of some of those people on shows like "America's Next Top Model", which many people find disturbing.
Re: Inappropriate Audience Bahavior at GOP Debates on 09/24/2011 10:19 PM CDT
<As for the issue with the gay soldier, well, I doubt the debate on the interpretations of the bible will ever be settled. However, those that want to force acceptance of homosexuality are doing their cause a disservice. I'd say the better route would be to show those against homosexuality a more "normal" view of gays. When you mention someone being gay, many people think of some of those people on shows like "America's Next Top Model", which many people find disturbing>
Then ALL 'those' people need to watch Areyousuprised on Youtube, or check out his Twitter. He's just a normal kid in the Air Force serving his country - but because he's gay - he couldn't ever be himself. Don't see how this is right, or fair. Those idiots at the Republican debate need to walk a mile in HIS shoes before having the nerve to boo anyone.
Re: Inappropriate Audience Bahavior at GOP Debates on 09/25/2011 04:15 PM CDT
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Then ALL 'those' people need to watch Areyousuprised on Youtube, or check out his Twitter. He's just a normal kid in the Air Force serving his country - but because he's gay - he couldn't ever be himself. Don't see how this is right, or fair. Those idiots at the Republican debate need to walk a mile in HIS shoes before having the nerve to boo anyone.>>
See here is the thing. They are not going to go search him out just for the hell of it. You've got to change the perception and that means everywhere possible whenever possible. You can't piecemeal it out. It might take a generation or two or three even.
As for walking in his shoes, sure. But everyone's life is different. How can I walk in everyone's shoes? Any minority or even majority has its own issues. Black, gay, poor, handicapped. Hell, try being a white male business owners. We're either thought of as Scrooge McDuck or the devil personified. ;)
Re: Inappropriate Audience Bahavior at GOP Debates on 09/30/2011 02:03 AM CDT
<<See here is the thing. They are not going to go search him out just for the hell of it. You've got to change the perception and that means everywhere possible whenever possible. You can't piecemeal it out. It might take a generation or two or three even. >> Sleken
^^ THIS this and MORE this ^^
But, that being agreed with, I DO think it's time to get the openly gay out of the footlockers and into the normal light of our military. And if that takes some extra boot-polish to get the footprint off the rear-ends of some of the unenlightened, then so be it. Some things have to be pushed.
The gay pride parade for me is supposed to signify Harvey Milk's vision. We are everyone, we can be your postal worker, your lawyer, your doctor, your cashier, your teacher, your soldier or.. your photo developer. We can also be hairy dudes wearing chaps that dont have back pockets... or material at all for that matter. Sadly, it's the really outrageous stereotype that some narrow-minded, but highly vocal, people will point at to say "That's what gay is!" Mind you, I tolerate most everything: dudes in back-pocket pocketless pants and D** on bikes don't bother me. It's like Mardis Gras as far as outfits and outrageousness to me.
I certainly don't hold Pee-Wee Herman against all the straight people! Nor Charlie Sheen... maybe a little on Mel Gibson... eh.. but I digress!
MOST gay people are not that stereotype. We work hard, we pay taxes, we vote, we love, we worry about healthcare and the jobless rate. We only want to be afforded the same things in life any straight person has potential to get, not more! I don't think I've ever heard the term RESTITUTION in relation to gay issues. I could be wrong on that, but I haven't been approached about it. There are many who think we want special treatment. I don't.
I only want what was available to me when I lived the lie of being straight (and miserable). Let me serve in the military if I wish, let my partner collect my benefits if I die, let my partner visit me in the hospital when it is only family allowed, let me know I can't be fired for being gay, let me and my partner adopt a child who needs a home, let me know I can kiss my partner in public and not fear being beaten or harrassed -- You think it's creepy having some oddball stare at you in a restaurant eating dinner? Try two who appear to be unseemly and leerish, and then you overhear well known slang terms for lesbians coming from their table in a not-so-friendly tone. My partner and I only walked in together to that Sweet Tomato Restaurant. We didn't even touch hands, we simply sat across from each other. It's very intimidating and sadly, NOT uncommon! And neither of us butch it up, we just aren't femme - not that that should matter.
The only way perceptions will change will be by gays and lesbians being normalized in TV shows and media. How sad that it dictates us so. But it's truth.
"That's gay!" and other (however unintended to be a slur) sexual orientation-realted slurs (incl. what the Brits calls cigarettes) needs to be villified as much as the "N" word is. People will defend their right, though, to use such slurs because they don't intend to bash a gay by saying it. And they're right, it is a right to say it. You can also say the "N" word. It doesn't mean the rest of us have to let it slide. Do your part! Call someone out on it. Stop using it if you do, or your kids do.
These are ways to make the quote above happen. I'm just not sure all of us Americans are ready to let go of our right to be an arse and can be open minded enough to not care about who their neighbor sleeps with. Oh, and willing to be humble enough to realize that not every homosexual of their gender-type wants to sleep with them.
Whew, this turned into much more than I intended but, there it is.
Thank you if you took the time to read all of that.
The woman behind the curtain~ Zenaxa's player.
A black-billed nightingale examines you carefully then says, "With all the vicious creatures we've got threatening the city, I would think that a person with your skills could find plenty to do."
^^ THIS this and MORE this ^^
But, that being agreed with, I DO think it's time to get the openly gay out of the footlockers and into the normal light of our military. And if that takes some extra boot-polish to get the footprint off the rear-ends of some of the unenlightened, then so be it. Some things have to be pushed.
The gay pride parade for me is supposed to signify Harvey Milk's vision. We are everyone, we can be your postal worker, your lawyer, your doctor, your cashier, your teacher, your soldier or.. your photo developer. We can also be hairy dudes wearing chaps that dont have back pockets... or material at all for that matter. Sadly, it's the really outrageous stereotype that some narrow-minded, but highly vocal, people will point at to say "That's what gay is!" Mind you, I tolerate most everything: dudes in back-pocket pocketless pants and D** on bikes don't bother me. It's like Mardis Gras as far as outfits and outrageousness to me.
I certainly don't hold Pee-Wee Herman against all the straight people! Nor Charlie Sheen... maybe a little on Mel Gibson... eh.. but I digress!
MOST gay people are not that stereotype. We work hard, we pay taxes, we vote, we love, we worry about healthcare and the jobless rate. We only want to be afforded the same things in life any straight person has potential to get, not more! I don't think I've ever heard the term RESTITUTION in relation to gay issues. I could be wrong on that, but I haven't been approached about it. There are many who think we want special treatment. I don't.
I only want what was available to me when I lived the lie of being straight (and miserable). Let me serve in the military if I wish, let my partner collect my benefits if I die, let my partner visit me in the hospital when it is only family allowed, let me know I can't be fired for being gay, let me and my partner adopt a child who needs a home, let me know I can kiss my partner in public and not fear being beaten or harrassed -- You think it's creepy having some oddball stare at you in a restaurant eating dinner? Try two who appear to be unseemly and leerish, and then you overhear well known slang terms for lesbians coming from their table in a not-so-friendly tone. My partner and I only walked in together to that Sweet Tomato Restaurant. We didn't even touch hands, we simply sat across from each other. It's very intimidating and sadly, NOT uncommon! And neither of us butch it up, we just aren't femme - not that that should matter.
The only way perceptions will change will be by gays and lesbians being normalized in TV shows and media. How sad that it dictates us so. But it's truth.
"That's gay!" and other (however unintended to be a slur) sexual orientation-realted slurs (incl. what the Brits calls cigarettes) needs to be villified as much as the "N" word is. People will defend their right, though, to use such slurs because they don't intend to bash a gay by saying it. And they're right, it is a right to say it. You can also say the "N" word. It doesn't mean the rest of us have to let it slide. Do your part! Call someone out on it. Stop using it if you do, or your kids do.
These are ways to make the quote above happen. I'm just not sure all of us Americans are ready to let go of our right to be an arse and can be open minded enough to not care about who their neighbor sleeps with. Oh, and willing to be humble enough to realize that not every homosexual of their gender-type wants to sleep with them.
Whew, this turned into much more than I intended but, there it is.
Thank you if you took the time to read all of that.
The woman behind the curtain~ Zenaxa's player.
A black-billed nightingale examines you carefully then says, "With all the vicious creatures we've got threatening the city, I would think that a person with your skills could find plenty to do."