Warriors using Bows on 02/27/2011 11:39 AM CST
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Any warriors out there using a bow? I am considering some diversification and am interested in the less obvious routes. Never fear. Will still be claid bashing and kicking. I'm adventerous not delusional!

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Re: Warriors using Bows on 02/27/2011 12:29 PM CST
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I know of three warriors that use bows. They seem to do well with them and although its not the usual route its certainly do able. And like you, for them its mostly a second attack form. You are ,of course, going to want to train in ranged, then max perception if you haven't already, followed by training up ambush in all likely hood because it adds to ranged AS as well.
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Re: Warriors using Bows on 02/27/2011 03:16 PM CST
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Kerl trains in thrown as a primary/secondary attack.

My warrior Lucarin trains in thrown/twc as his only attack.

Few other warriors do thrown as a secondary skill.

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Re: Warriors using Bows on 02/27/2011 09:48 PM CST
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Thrown, without a returner or bandolier, isn't really a viable hunting style, imho. Met uses thrown as an invasion secondary when there's something really tough that needs to die. Warriors are pretty much always going to get better AS with thrown, due to the CMAN contribution to thrown's AS, which doesn't show up in archery's. However, archery has, hands-down, better defense.


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Re: Warriors using Bows on 02/28/2011 10:36 AM CST
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Decision made.

Thanks for input guys


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Re: Warriors using Bows on 05/09/2011 03:09 PM CDT
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Well how about that. I was thinking of using a bow and have been fortunate to acquire one. I am currently reading everything I can get my hands on about use of bows. One question though - can multi-strike be used with a bow?


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Re: Warriors using Bows on 05/09/2011 03:12 PM CDT
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I suppose, if you're using it like a quarterstaff. :)

Better option is to use multi-fire.

At least once. Maybe twice. Then you'll probably put it away and look for other things to train.

Doug
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Re: Warriors using Bows on 05/09/2011 03:35 PM CDT
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Mfire is generally reckoned to be pretty rubbish because it can't be aimed and has horrendous RT. Many people can shoot single aimed shots at a faster average speed than mfire unaimed shots.

Even worse, its a Cman, so you have to give up a useful Cman in order to learn it. If you are having a bow phase, you probably should learn multifire, but don't expect to be impressed by it.

What I want to know is, what happens when you berserk with a bow?
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Re: Warriors using Bows on 05/09/2011 03:38 PM CDT
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I would have to imagine you either attack with the arrow in Melee, or the bow.




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Re: Warriors using Bows on 05/09/2011 07:46 PM CDT
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Get a bunch of haste imbeds and kill things in 1 Second RT by aiming at eyes.

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Re: Warriors using Bows on 05/31/2011 02:40 AM CDT
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<<What I want to know is, what happens when you berserk with a bow?

yep, I can confirm. You attack with the longbow as if it's a quarterstaff.
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Re: Warriors using Bows on 01/05/2012 03:27 PM CST
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oooo getting all excited. Three months of training and i'll be using my bow like some warrior ranger hybrid - hehe. Almost there.

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Re: Warriors using Bows on 03/01/2013 12:08 AM CST
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Just thought I'd provide an update regarding my exploits using a bow as a supplementary form of hunting.

It didn't work out. Using an ebow was fun in theory but I spent more time worried about being disarmed and losing it in the Teras Temple than I did about hunting styles. And of course when I did eventually got disarmed, I found myself chasing the thieving critter in order to retrieve it. I sold it shortly thereafter.

I've decided to leave the bows to rangers and to stick to what I'm good at.

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Re: Warriors using Bows on 03/01/2013 02:06 PM CST
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Bows/crossbows/arrows used as melee weapons (right hand only).

General information:
http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_the_Bow_(guide)#Bows.2FCrossbows_Used_As_Melee_Weapons_.28Right_Hand_Only.29

Bows (short/long/composite) use the quarterstaff damage table:
http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/Quarterstaff

Crossbows (light/heavy) use the cudgel damage table:
http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/Cudgel

Arrows/bolts use the arrow damage table:
http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/Arrow

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Re: Warriors using Bows on 03/01/2013 03:21 PM CST
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eek!
Useful information but why swing a stick when you can swing something with a sharp edge or thrust something with a pointy end!

* grin *

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Re: Warriors using Bows on 03/01/2013 04:56 PM CST
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I think the point of that was so you could use that information and bond with your bow of choice so you don't have those disarm woes.
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Re: Warriors using Bows on 03/01/2013 06:41 PM CST
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Is it even possible to bond with a bow? Oh, and ebows are totally awesome in warcamps. None of those pesky arrows lying everywhere, and no disarming!
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Re: Warriors using Bows on 03/01/2013 06:51 PM CST
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>eek!
>Useful information but why swing a stick when you can swing something with a sharp edge or thrust something with a pointy end! - Bremerial

Because, Bremerial, there's nothing more satisfying than BOPPING, BOPPING, BOPPING the beelzebub out of a brown boar's belfry with a short bow! ;)

Mark
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Re: Warriors using Bows on 03/04/2013 12:56 PM CST
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<<I think the point of that was so you could use that information and bond with your bow of choice so you don't have those disarm woes.
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Ahh. Therein lies the rub! The bow was only ever meant to be a tertiary method of attack, so bonding was never an option. (Actually didn't think you could bond with a bow, even as a beating stick. Has that changed while I was snoozing?)


<<Because, Bremerial, there's nothing more satisfying than BOPPING, BOPPING, BOPPING the beelzebub out of a brown boar's belfry with a short bow! ;)
<<Mark

I am beginning to see a somewhat malevolent streak Mark! Hehe. But I,m less of a bopper and more of a dicer and slicer!





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Re: Warriors using Bows on 07/02/2013 09:31 PM CDT
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Hypothetically, a warrior could wbond a bow yes? The question that springs to mind is: do they need to get the kills to bond with it via melee, basically requiring them to train in THW in addition to range, or THW then fixskills to range; or can they get the kills via firing the bow? In any case, with either a lot of tedious killing with a crappy quarterstaff, or a lot of easy killing with a ridiculous ebow, I think you could make your ebow disarm resistant. Alternatively, isn't a warrior mastered in guild disarm with rank 5 uncanny defense pretty friggin hard to disarm?

Random thoughts. Played lots of ranged characters, never a warrior though.

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