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>skill
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Two Weapon Combat..................| 93 21
Combat Maneuvers...................| 178 78
Brawling...........................| 184 84
Ambush.............................| 40 8
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 5 1
Physical Fitness...................| 184 84
Dodging............................| 226 126
Magic Item Use.....................| 20 4
Harness Power......................| 102 24
Mental Lore - Transformation.......| 30 6
Survival...........................| 45 9
Perception.........................| 142 42
Climbing...........................| 122 31
Swimming...........................| 54 11
First Aid..........................| 50 10
Spell Lists
Minor Spiritual....................| 2
Spell Lists
Minor Mental.......................| 20
>inf
Race: Dwarf Profession: Monk (shown as: Monastic Master of the First Circle)
Gender: Male Age: 0 Expr: 1730277 Level: 40
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 81 (25) ... 81 (25)
Constitution (CON): 75 (27) ... 75 (27)
Dexterity (DEX): 88 (19) ... 88 (19)
Agility (AGI): 87 (13) ... 87 (13)
Discipline (DIS): 78 (24) ... 78 (24)
Aura (AUR): 90 (10) ... 90 (10)
Logic (LOG): 100 (30) ... 100 (30)
Intuition (INT): 83 (16) ... 83 (16)
Wisdom (WIS): 87 (18) ... 87 (18)
Influence (INF): 35 (-17) ... 35 (-17)
Mana: 81 Silver: 3670
>inf start
Level 0 Stats
Strength (STR): 61
Constitution (CON): 49
Dexterity (DEX): 78
Agility (AGI): 73
Discipline (DIS): 58
Aura (AUR): 82
Logic (LOG): 92
Intuition (INT): 70
Wisdom (WIS): 77
Influence (INF): 20
>cman info
your Combat Maneuver training is as follows:
Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Bearhug bearhug 1
Feint feint 5
Coup de Grace coupdegrace 1
Surge of Strength surge 1
Punch Mastery punchmastery 3
Inner Harmony iharmony 1
Rolling Krynch Stance krynch 2
Available Combat Maneuver Training Points: 5
Total Points converted during your current 30-day unlearning cycle: 12
Number of days remaining in your current 30-day unlearning cycle: 23 days
>bounty
You currently have 279602 unspent bounty points.
You have accumulated a total of 283522 lifetime bounty points.
You have succeeded at the Kill Creatures task 176 times.
You have succeeded at the Retrieve Heirloom task 157 times.
You have succeeded at the Procure Gems task 109 times.
You have succeeded at the Procure Herbs task 125 times.
You have succeeded at the Kill Dangerous Creature task 155 times.
You have succeeded at the Rescue Child task 144 times.
You have succeeded at the Kill Bandits task 1 time.
You have succeeded at the Help Kill Creatures task 1 time.
>
>exp
Level: 40 Deeds: 21
Experience: 1730397 Death's Sting: None
Exp. until next: 78103 Recent Deaths: 1
Mental TPs: 0 Fame: 3899913
Physical TPs: 1 Mana: 81/81 max
(560 Phy converted to Mnt)
>What society did you go with? I'm liking CoL with my dwarf brawler. He can keep all of the combat signs up indefinitely and all of his stamina is devoted to cman usage.
Voln. Vultieri is a rerolled Lord. His history is as a barehanded warrior (with no society) searching for the secrets of monks. He had been through every monastery he could get into in the game with a fine toothed comb (tap second a ...) looking for musty documents behind hidden panels. The secrets of monks were revealed via Voln. He hunted down the grizzled warrior the moment he qualified after rerolling.
I've tried playing characters in the other societies, and I burn out. Evil RP doesn't suit me. If they'd been released via CoL or Sunfist, I'd have joined but I'd have found some excuse for him to tell them to get stuffed or burnt out a long time ago. I don't claim its the best mechanically for a monk but it was the only possible choice for me.
>Congratulations! Those are indeed some bizarre Cmans. Not what I would have expected at all.
I did not feel obliged to publish my secret recipe for success to potential competitors until I had rolled them over ;).
Whats not to like about: critter bites the dust, grizzled critter spawns, using the momentum of your previous attack on a critter you punch a grizzled critter into a rapid demise?
Krynch 2 has far better odds than krynch 1 but krynch 3 isn't much of an improvement over 2. UACmastery 3 makes for a harder hit than spirit strike in some critical situations for me already and it gets better with level. I'd rather cream critters in 3 seconds than 4 or 5, so I go for punch over the other masteries.
Whats not to like about: feint fading critter, punch, loot, take the heirloom back to the guard?
There's a huge difference between attacking critters in defensive and offensive stance. Particularly when uphunting, critters in defensive stance get large MM bonuses from being in defensive as well as the higher UDF. It can quite easily be the difference between missing 2/3rds of the time and having a guaranteed death/disable crit. 1207 and wait for them to stand up works well too but you have to have a way to stance critters.
What's not to like about: you are horribly encumbered with all those giant boxes, cman surge, climb gate?
(Actually I tend to go sym return when I am really horribly encumbered with full containers and a 30lb box in each hand, but in less extreme cases of encumberance surge makes for a safer climbing checks on the walk home after picking up the loot)
All my other CMans are single ranks for RP and testing reasons.
Voln. Vultieri is a rerolled Lord. His history is as a barehanded warrior (with no society) searching for the secrets of monks. He had been through every monastery he could get into in the game with a fine toothed comb (tap second a ...) looking for musty documents behind hidden panels. The secrets of monks were revealed via Voln. He hunted down the grizzled warrior the moment he qualified after rerolling.
I've tried playing characters in the other societies, and I burn out. Evil RP doesn't suit me. If they'd been released via CoL or Sunfist, I'd have joined but I'd have found some excuse for him to tell them to get stuffed or burnt out a long time ago. I don't claim its the best mechanically for a monk but it was the only possible choice for me.
>Congratulations! Those are indeed some bizarre Cmans. Not what I would have expected at all.
I did not feel obliged to publish my secret recipe for success to potential competitors until I had rolled them over ;).
Whats not to like about: critter bites the dust, grizzled critter spawns, using the momentum of your previous attack on a critter you punch a grizzled critter into a rapid demise?
Krynch 2 has far better odds than krynch 1 but krynch 3 isn't much of an improvement over 2. UACmastery 3 makes for a harder hit than spirit strike in some critical situations for me already and it gets better with level. I'd rather cream critters in 3 seconds than 4 or 5, so I go for punch over the other masteries.
Whats not to like about: feint fading critter, punch, loot, take the heirloom back to the guard?
There's a huge difference between attacking critters in defensive and offensive stance. Particularly when uphunting, critters in defensive stance get large MM bonuses from being in defensive as well as the higher UDF. It can quite easily be the difference between missing 2/3rds of the time and having a guaranteed death/disable crit. 1207 and wait for them to stand up works well too but you have to have a way to stance critters.
What's not to like about: you are horribly encumbered with all those giant boxes, cman surge, climb gate?
(Actually I tend to go sym return when I am really horribly encumbered with full containers and a 30lb box in each hand, but in less extreme cases of encumberance surge makes for a safer climbing checks on the walk home after picking up the loot)
All my other CMans are single ranks for RP and testing reasons.
<<Just wanted to say congrats for hitting 40. Now can someone give an ETA on when conversions will be?
It's been stated it will be after a monk hits 40 in all three instances. A monk has hit 40 in Prime and Shattered now. It's also been said it won't be an immediate thing, either.
~Aulis
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It's been stated it will be after a monk hits 40 in all three instances. A monk has hit 40 in Prime and Shattered now. It's also been said it won't be an immediate thing, either.
~Aulis
Forums Manager
QC'er
Yeah unfortunately they're going to wait for people in Plat to hit 40 on their monks too...
And our two high level monks got busy with RL, so aren't really playing much at all anymore...and the next highest is a casual playing level 20 monk...so it's probably going to be a several more months unfortunately...unless they change their minds about requiring Plat, or the higher level monk's real life schedule clears up and they can play again.
And our two high level monks got busy with RL, so aren't really playing much at all anymore...and the next highest is a casual playing level 20 monk...so it's probably going to be a several more months unfortunately...unless they change their minds about requiring Plat, or the higher level monk's real life schedule clears up and they can play again.
Hmm dang, I thought it was just for a monk in Prime. I'm going to have to rethink my plans then and just roll up a new dwarf monk instead of waiting to convert my 24 brawling warrior. I have a 14 elf monk already but I abandoned him after learning about Robe CvA not scaling up with 1202. That's a huge TD deficit for a square compared to plate CvA.
As for Cman's, yeah I think I'm gonna have to bite the bullet and go with Feint, too. Dealing with turtled creatures, especially casters without Feint is quite annoying. I've enjoyed Crowd Press but I'll probably drop it for the Feint. I'd wanted to do something a bit more exotic with the points. :)
Rathboner, was just curious which way you'd gone. I think CoL is probably the least mechanically advantageous for monks, but I was already a master with my brawler warrior. Plus I've found the dwarf spirit regen works so well with CoL. It evens things out a bit imo.
<<Yeah I thought it was going to be opened up once a monk in prime hit it as well...kinda stinks....had to wait 8 years for the release, and now we have to wait a little longer lol.>>
Yeah, no pressure or anything.
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Yeah, no pressure or anything.
Gretchen
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>As for Cman's, yeah I think I'm gonna have to bite the bullet and go with Feint, too. Dealing with turtled creatures, especially casters without Feint is quite annoying. I've enjoyed Crowd Press but I'll probably drop it for the Feint. I'd wanted to do something a bit more exotic with the points. :)
I don't think there are all that many "must haves". A martial stance - my choice is krynch, a mastery - my choice is punch, and something that does the job feint does - my choice is feint. I would expect a gnome or halfling to add full surge to that list, but I stopped my Cman training to rush 1220 and I am not feeling the pressure to pick it up because there aren't manoevers out there that I really want the points for right now as opposed to manoevers it might be nice to pick up some day. Even if you drop crowd press for feint, I'd think you could pick it up again not all that many levels later.
I'd rather have something else than feint, because its so warriorish (and warriors are so much better at it) but the best monk thing I have found is 1207, and jab while I wait for the critter to stance as it stands up. It beats feint for fairly slow square critters, but casters will usually throw a prepped spell before they stand up and thats bad news if its a nasty CS or manoever spell.
Time to take it easy for a bit while I ponder training and strategy for the next stretch. Whats a poor monk to spend his banked millions on? Where are the next ten spins going to come from? How many consecutive AG tasks can I complete without sobering up? Who has some monk gear with a bit less leather and a bit more metal in its construction for sale to a Master of the Steel Fist?
I don't think there are all that many "must haves". A martial stance - my choice is krynch, a mastery - my choice is punch, and something that does the job feint does - my choice is feint. I would expect a gnome or halfling to add full surge to that list, but I stopped my Cman training to rush 1220 and I am not feeling the pressure to pick it up because there aren't manoevers out there that I really want the points for right now as opposed to manoevers it might be nice to pick up some day. Even if you drop crowd press for feint, I'd think you could pick it up again not all that many levels later.
I'd rather have something else than feint, because its so warriorish (and warriors are so much better at it) but the best monk thing I have found is 1207, and jab while I wait for the critter to stance as it stands up. It beats feint for fairly slow square critters, but casters will usually throw a prepped spell before they stand up and thats bad news if its a nasty CS or manoever spell.
Time to take it easy for a bit while I ponder training and strategy for the next stretch. Whats a poor monk to spend his banked millions on? Where are the next ten spins going to come from? How many consecutive AG tasks can I complete without sobering up? Who has some monk gear with a bit less leather and a bit more metal in its construction for sale to a Master of the Steel Fist?
My comment about your CMAN training was mostly towards your random 1 rank of things. Krynch is of course understandable. Feint I know has it's place but just hasn't really seemed necessary for my other swinging characters so I was curious as to see how useful it was for you. And yeah Surge I thought you were going to say was for perfect self. Climbing a gate with boxes would never be a good enough reason for me to invest so many CMAN points. But to each their own!
Again congrats.
Again congrats.
>Climbing a gate with boxes would never be a good enough reason for me to invest so many CMAN points.
2 points is not a large number. 27 for feint is a large number but I need all 5 ranks to get what I want from it. I only need the one rank of surge. Targetted Cmans should usually be planned to train fully, but with passive ones it will often pay to be partially trained.
>Feint I know has it's place but just hasn't really seemed necessary for my other swinging characters so I was curious as to see how useful it was for you.
The other characters I have got this far are a blunt/brawl warrior, an ex-fu smith, and a THW cleric. They all have feint, though its only the warrior who would have been completely lost without it. (As to how well they manage with UAC and revised Voln, I dont know, they barely have a serious hunt between them since monks were released.) I started out thinking it was going to be about as necessary as it is to my warrior, but actually its a lot closer to the cleric except with 1207 rather than unbalance.
Where I found it absolutely essential was tree spirits. They went from owning me at level 25 when I didn't have feint, to wind rats at level 26 when I did, which was all down to feint giving them enough RT for me to use smite. However, most critters I 1207 and throw feeble jabs which miss half the time hoping to get a tier and then cream them when they stance to stand up. I only feint them if I accidentally stun them with a jab.
If you are used to feintless swinging, I would expect you to be able to manage without, though perhaps you should keep out of the trees.
2 points is not a large number. 27 for feint is a large number but I need all 5 ranks to get what I want from it. I only need the one rank of surge. Targetted Cmans should usually be planned to train fully, but with passive ones it will often pay to be partially trained.
>Feint I know has it's place but just hasn't really seemed necessary for my other swinging characters so I was curious as to see how useful it was for you.
The other characters I have got this far are a blunt/brawl warrior, an ex-fu smith, and a THW cleric. They all have feint, though its only the warrior who would have been completely lost without it. (As to how well they manage with UAC and revised Voln, I dont know, they barely have a serious hunt between them since monks were released.) I started out thinking it was going to be about as necessary as it is to my warrior, but actually its a lot closer to the cleric except with 1207 rather than unbalance.
Where I found it absolutely essential was tree spirits. They went from owning me at level 25 when I didn't have feint, to wind rats at level 26 when I did, which was all down to feint giving them enough RT for me to use smite. However, most critters I 1207 and throw feeble jabs which miss half the time hoping to get a tier and then cream them when they stance to stand up. I only feint them if I accidentally stun them with a jab.
If you are used to feintless swinging, I would expect you to be able to manage without, though perhaps you should keep out of the trees.
By disrupting, I meant killing. :)
I've found with a caster that stays in defensive its tough for me to kill them before they get off a few casts. While 1203 would certainly help with stopping their casting the Feint would help with the killing part which would then take care of the casting part, too.
