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In commemoration of the Tenth Anniversary of the release of the Enchiridion Valentia, Lord Vathon Kel'Driss Faendryl the Basilican Summoner will be traveling from Ta'Faendryl to the Faendryl Embassy in Ta'Illistim to meet with Sorcerers of all races. There he will be reading excerpts from the Enchiridion Valentia, holding commentary on demonic summoning, and teaching Sorcerers in attendance some uncommon runes! He may also distribute several copies of the Enchiridion to those in attendance!
This is the first of a six part series of events that takes place on the 9th day of Charlatos, 5113. The topic of this discussion will be Lorae'Tyr.
OOC Note:
This is part 2 of 6, taking place Saturday March 9th, 2013 (8 PM for Plat, 9 PM for Prime). Other events will be occurring every other month, discussing each of the valences twice. Rune teachings offered during the event will be in relation to the valence of discussion, for example, you will not be able to learn a rune from Shien'Tyr during the Lorae'Tyr discussion. Rune teachings are limited to one uncommon rune per account for the year.
If you've already received an uncommon rune from a previous event you are ineligible for another, but are still welcome to join us.
Is there a chance that a couple of them could be held on a day other then Saturday, like Sunday or Monday? I'd really like to attend one, but I almost always have to work IRL Saturday evening and almost certainly won't make it to any of them if they're all on Sat.
Thanks,
Starchitin
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Thanks,
Starchitin
A severed gnomish hand crawls in on its fingertips and makes a rude gesture before quickly decaying and rotting into dust. A gust of wind quickly scatters the dust.
>Is there a chance that a couple of them could be held on a day other then Saturday, like Sunday or Monday? I'd really like to attend one, but I almost always have to work IRL Saturday evening and almost certainly won't make it to any of them if they're all on Sat.
The first one was on a Friday.
~Vanah
The first one was on a Friday.
~Vanah
<The first one was on a Friday.>
Heh, I missed that detail. Unfortunately, as a bartender, Fri and Sat are equally bad for me. If people are out partying, I need to be out making money to pay for GS and internet. That's why I'd suggested Sun and Mon (though, any day would give me a better chance at being able to attend then Fri and Sat), since I'm sure there are others in GS that also work in the F&B industry have the same predicament as me. If it's not possible, cest la vie, I just figured it wouldn't hurt to put in the request before it was too late.
Starchitin
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Heh, I missed that detail. Unfortunately, as a bartender, Fri and Sat are equally bad for me. If people are out partying, I need to be out making money to pay for GS and internet. That's why I'd suggested Sun and Mon (though, any day would give me a better chance at being able to attend then Fri and Sat), since I'm sure there are others in GS that also work in the F&B industry have the same predicament as me. If it's not possible, cest la vie, I just figured it wouldn't hurt to put in the request before it was too late.
Starchitin
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The first one was done on a Friday, this one will be a Saturday.
That isn't to say all of them will be on a Friday or Saturday, those times just work out the best for me since I need to post these events many weeks in advance. I can set aside a Friday or Saturday night and be pretty confident I won't need to move them.
I'd love for everyone to get a chance at grabbing a rune of their choice, but unfortunately I cannot please 100% of the people 100% of the time.
That isn't to say all of them will be on a Friday or Saturday, those times just work out the best for me since I need to post these events many weeks in advance. I can set aside a Friday or Saturday night and be pretty confident I won't need to move them.
I'd love for everyone to get a chance at grabbing a rune of their choice, but unfortunately I cannot please 100% of the people 100% of the time.
<That isn't to say all of them will be on a Friday or Saturday, those times just work out the best for me since I need to post these events many weeks in advance. I can set aside a Friday or Saturday night and be pretty confident I won't need to move them.>
I understand completely, Fri and Sat are best for most people. I hope my request wasn't taken as a complaint, it wasn't ment to be.
<I'd love for everyone to get a chance at grabbing a rune of their choice, but unfortunately I cannot please 100% of the people 100% of the time.>
I'll be happy with what I get. I don't play much with 725, so if I can manage to get a rune it'll be easy to work it into my existing RP whatever it is.
Starchitin
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I understand completely, Fri and Sat are best for most people. I hope my request wasn't taken as a complaint, it wasn't ment to be.
<I'd love for everyone to get a chance at grabbing a rune of their choice, but unfortunately I cannot please 100% of the people 100% of the time.>
I'll be happy with what I get. I don't play much with 725, so if I can manage to get a rune it'll be easy to work it into my existing RP whatever it is.
Starchitin
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<<<Heh, I missed that detail. Unfortunately, as a bartender, Fri and Sat are equally bad for me. If people are out partying, I need to be out making money to pay for GS and internet. That's why I'd suggested Sun and Mon (though, any day would give me a better chance at being able to attend then Fri and Sat), since I'm sure there are others in GS that also work in the F&B industry have the same predicament as me. If it's not possible, cest la vie, I just figured it wouldn't hurt to put in the request before it was too late.>>>
As a musician, I'm in the same boat. It so happens that I don't have anything booked (yet) for that night, but that's subject to change.
<<<I'd love for everyone to get a chance at grabbing a rune of their choice, but unfortunately I cannot please 100% of the people 100% of the time.>>>
Understood. But since this is a fairly unique opportunity many of us have been waiting a long, long time for...I do hope you'll try to work us in, somehow. Perhaps Vathon could make an informal appearance on the Monday following the main event?
~ Heathyr and friends
As a musician, I'm in the same boat. It so happens that I don't have anything booked (yet) for that night, but that's subject to change.
<<<I'd love for everyone to get a chance at grabbing a rune of their choice, but unfortunately I cannot please 100% of the people 100% of the time.>>>
Understood. But since this is a fairly unique opportunity many of us have been waiting a long, long time for...I do hope you'll try to work us in, somehow. Perhaps Vathon could make an informal appearance on the Monday following the main event?
~ Heathyr and friends
I will do my best to schedule these events so those that wish to participate can try to make themselves available. I will not be doing any impromptu, one-off side events in relation to these specific rune teaching events.
There is no finality in these events in that it will not be the last time you'll be able to grab one. There will be more opportunities (not related to the Anniversary) during this year in which uncommon runes will be distributed.
I don't think I'll be able to make this one either. Which is a shame given it's the only one I want to attend.
I still think Nilven's original idea of giving someone with x ranks demonology a demon specific rune of choice has merit. I understand that you probably can't base it off ranks of demonology though because those ranks can be learned and unlearned. but maybe give a rune to everyone over 70th train or something? can't unlearn levels...
~Moredin
I still think Nilven's original idea of giving someone with x ranks demonology a demon specific rune of choice has merit. I understand that you probably can't base it off ranks of demonology though because those ranks can be learned and unlearned. but maybe give a rune to everyone over 70th train or something? can't unlearn levels...
~Moredin
Hey Qortaz, have you had a chance to relay the request for expanding the uncommon rune system to the proper development GMs? It would be really nice if they manage to get this upgraded in time for the final three lectures.
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>Barnom exclaims, "I smell delicious!"
>Barnom says, "Like sage and nutmeg.
>"Walkar says, "Yes, too many kings never work. Especially when there's only one throne. It's a wicked game."
>Shameless plug.
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>Barnom exclaims, "I smell delicious!"
>Barnom says, "Like sage and nutmeg.
>"Walkar says, "Yes, too many kings never work. Especially when there's only one throne. It's a wicked game."
>Shameless plug.
<<Hey Qortaz, have you had a chance to relay the request for expanding the uncommon rune system to the proper development GMs? It would be really nice if they manage to get this upgraded in time for the final three lectures.>>
Yes. I will remind everyone, though, that there are no guarantees and development has very limited resources.
<<Please let the people who are able to be present TEACH their learned runes to a few other people, since a good few of us can't make it>>
Sorry that you are unable to make this event, but the ability to TEACH runes learned from this event is not an option.
<<Events 4,5, and 6 are to be duplicates of 1,2, and 3. One event every other month was the intended schedule I believe.>>
This is correct. After Shien'tyr, we'll start over again with Grik'tyr. Also, these events won't be the only opportunities this year that Sorcs will be able to learn uncommon runes.
Yes. I will remind everyone, though, that there are no guarantees and development has very limited resources.
<<Please let the people who are able to be present TEACH their learned runes to a few other people, since a good few of us can't make it>>
Sorry that you are unable to make this event, but the ability to TEACH runes learned from this event is not an option.
<<Events 4,5, and 6 are to be duplicates of 1,2, and 3. One event every other month was the intended schedule I believe.>>
This is correct. After Shien'tyr, we'll start over again with Grik'tyr. Also, these events won't be the only opportunities this year that Sorcs will be able to learn uncommon runes.
>Final three? Thought there was only two left.
Looks like this has been covered, but I do understand that things take time to move through QC. I asked for the last three because then each of the valences would get at least 1 shot at having currently unavailable runes, and also gives about . . . 4-5ish months for it to go through development.
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>Barnom exclaims, "I smell delicious!"
>Barnom says, "Like sage and nutmeg.
>"Walkar says, "Yes, too many kings never work. Especially when there's only one throne. It's a wicked game."
>Shameless plug.
Looks like this has been covered, but I do understand that things take time to move through QC. I asked for the last three because then each of the valences would get at least 1 shot at having currently unavailable runes, and also gives about . . . 4-5ish months for it to go through development.
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>Barnom exclaims, "I smell delicious!"
>Barnom says, "Like sage and nutmeg.
>"Walkar says, "Yes, too many kings never work. Especially when there's only one throne. It's a wicked game."
>Shameless plug.
The time it takes something to move through development and QC is irrelevant to this event.
I want to make it absolutely clear that no one should make plans to hold off on getting an uncommon rune they want based on something that may or may not happen in the future. The list of runes I provided in the first thread will be the runes that you have to choose from.
I want to make it absolutely clear that no one should make plans to hold off on getting an uncommon rune they want based on something that may or may not happen in the future. The list of runes I provided in the first thread will be the runes that you have to choose from.
>I want to make it absolutely clear that no one should make plans to hold off on getting an uncommon rune they want based on something that may or may not happen in the future. The list of runes I provided in the first thread will be the runes that you have to choose from.
Indeed, and everyone should also concider, that with the uncommon runes available, the odds of getting the specific demons you really want go up significantly. If you get Abyran you're effectively (if not exactly for whatever behind the scenese reason) 50/50 between Abyran'a and Abyran'sa and so on with the other runes (Verlock) people are asking about. When talking about Lora'tyr subtypes, this is still a monumental improvement for 99% of us.
Also, remember, that getting an uncommon rune from this event only excludes you from getting another one at another of these connected events. It doesn't preclude the possibilty of future events getting you that dream uncommon rune. Let's stop looking this particular gift horse in the mouth shall we?
Of course, that's not to say that there isn't valid discussion to be had about the existing uncommon rune structure, just that it should be a seperate discussion from this serries of events. This is a huge boone to us.
--Jurp
Indeed, and everyone should also concider, that with the uncommon runes available, the odds of getting the specific demons you really want go up significantly. If you get Abyran you're effectively (if not exactly for whatever behind the scenese reason) 50/50 between Abyran'a and Abyran'sa and so on with the other runes (Verlock) people are asking about. When talking about Lora'tyr subtypes, this is still a monumental improvement for 99% of us.
Also, remember, that getting an uncommon rune from this event only excludes you from getting another one at another of these connected events. It doesn't preclude the possibilty of future events getting you that dream uncommon rune. Let's stop looking this particular gift horse in the mouth shall we?
Of course, that's not to say that there isn't valid discussion to be had about the existing uncommon rune structure, just that it should be a seperate discussion from this serries of events. This is a huge boone to us.
--Jurp
>Also, remember, that getting an uncommon rune from this event only excludes you from getting another one at another of these connected events. It doesn't preclude the possibilty of future events getting you that dream uncommon rune. Let's stop looking this particular gift horse in the mouth shall we?
I am well aware of the possibility of getting an uncommon rune in the future, and that is the exact issue. It has nothing to do with looking a gift horse in the mouth.
Say I get a verlok rune at the Lorae'tyr lecture. And say by next year, the Verlok subtypes are available . . . well I will feel really stupid getting Verlok'cina on top of that. Now I have a wasted rune slot . . . and two opportunities for runes went towards getting only one rune in the end. Of course, I could always wyzio it away, but we really haven't gotten to that point in the profession yet where any self respecting sorcerer can squander rune lessons like that. Besides, if the rune system isn't expanded, then future events won't have Verlok'cina anymore than this one does.
All I asked was that Qortaz pass along the message that there was an interest in expanding the rune system. According to him, he has. Thats no guarantee, but there is nothing more I can do in this thread to get that done, and nothing more he can do. If I was disgruntled further, I'd take it to the Bad and the Ugly thread.
So I'm working with the system. I have a rune lined up under the current system that I will be happy with, and I have a rune lined up under the expanded system that I will be happy with. There is no harm at all to me to wait until the second round of events to get these, so I will.
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>Barnom exclaims, "I smell delicious!"
>Barnom says, "Like sage and nutmeg.
>"Walkar says, "Yes, too many kings never work. Especially when there's only one throne. It's a wicked game."
>Shameless plug.
I am well aware of the possibility of getting an uncommon rune in the future, and that is the exact issue. It has nothing to do with looking a gift horse in the mouth.
Say I get a verlok rune at the Lorae'tyr lecture. And say by next year, the Verlok subtypes are available . . . well I will feel really stupid getting Verlok'cina on top of that. Now I have a wasted rune slot . . . and two opportunities for runes went towards getting only one rune in the end. Of course, I could always wyzio it away, but we really haven't gotten to that point in the profession yet where any self respecting sorcerer can squander rune lessons like that. Besides, if the rune system isn't expanded, then future events won't have Verlok'cina anymore than this one does.
All I asked was that Qortaz pass along the message that there was an interest in expanding the rune system. According to him, he has. Thats no guarantee, but there is nothing more I can do in this thread to get that done, and nothing more he can do. If I was disgruntled further, I'd take it to the Bad and the Ugly thread.
So I'm working with the system. I have a rune lined up under the current system that I will be happy with, and I have a rune lined up under the expanded system that I will be happy with. There is no harm at all to me to wait until the second round of events to get these, so I will.
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>Barnom exclaims, "I smell delicious!"
>Barnom says, "Like sage and nutmeg.
>"Walkar says, "Yes, too many kings never work. Especially when there's only one throne. It's a wicked game."
>Shameless plug.
<<According to him, he has. Thats no guarantee>>
The comments above are rather disappointing.
The very second I was cleared to run events, this was the first thing I requested. There are a ton of other things I could have done, but I felt this would be really fun. The first event was a great success, almost 40 sorcs came out and got runes. I've been very clear with what I could and could not do, and have always addressed concerns and tried to provide clarity. If I say I did something, I did it. I'm not going to waste my time just providing you lip service.
Can't wait to see everyone who makes it out on the 9th, should be another good time.
The comments above are rather disappointing.
The very second I was cleared to run events, this was the first thing I requested. There are a ton of other things I could have done, but I felt this would be really fun. The first event was a great success, almost 40 sorcs came out and got runes. I've been very clear with what I could and could not do, and have always addressed concerns and tried to provide clarity. If I say I did something, I did it. I'm not going to waste my time just providing you lip service.
Can't wait to see everyone who makes it out on the 9th, should be another good time.
>The comments above are rather disappointing.
What I meant was that you said you've passed the message along. I believe you. That doesn't mean anything will be done on the development end. I wasn't doubting your word. Promise. Sorry it came across that way.
>Can't wait to see everyone who makes it out on the 9th, should be another good time.
I'll be there.
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>Barnom exclaims, "I smell delicious!"
>Barnom says, "Like sage and nutmeg.
>"Walkar says, "Yes, too many kings never work. Especially when there's only one throne. It's a wicked game."
>Shameless plug.
What I meant was that you said you've passed the message along. I believe you. That doesn't mean anything will be done on the development end. I wasn't doubting your word. Promise. Sorry it came across that way.
>Can't wait to see everyone who makes it out on the 9th, should be another good time.
I'll be there.
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>Barnom exclaims, "I smell delicious!"
>Barnom says, "Like sage and nutmeg.
>"Walkar says, "Yes, too many kings never work. Especially when there's only one throne. It's a wicked game."
>Shameless plug.
<<<Can't wait to see everyone who makes it out on the 9th, should be another good time.>>>
Looking forward to it! I still have the date free, so I'm crossing my fingers that I'll be able to make it. The closer we get the less likely I'll have some booked. :)
Thank you again for doing this. In spite of the quibbling, I think I can safely speak for almost all sorcerers when I say we really appreciate this opportunity, and the all-around sorcerer love. :)
~ Heathyr
Looking forward to it! I still have the date free, so I'm crossing my fingers that I'll be able to make it. The closer we get the less likely I'll have some booked. :)
Thank you again for doing this. In spite of the quibbling, I think I can safely speak for almost all sorcerers when I say we really appreciate this opportunity, and the all-around sorcerer love. :)
~ Heathyr
Q: When is it?
A: Saturday at 9:00 p.m. eastern in Prime. See post 648.
Q: Where is it?
A: The Faendryl embassy in Ta'Illistim. See posts 558 and 614 for directions.
Q: How much does it cost?
A: It's free!
Q: What runes will be taught?
A: Lorae'tyr-abyran, lorae'tyr-abyran'a, lorae'tyr-grantris, lorae'tyr-igaesha and lorae'tyr-verlok. See post 581.
Q: Which rune should I choose?
A: It depends.
Q: If I choose lorae'tyr-abyran, what demon type will I get when I use it?
A: You randomly get either an abyran'a or an abyran'sa. More of the former than the latter.
Q: Why would anybody want to learn lorae'tyr-abyran'a, instead of lorae'tyr-abyran?
A: There is no known mechanical reason. I suspect that the lorae'tyr-abyran'a rune exists so that it can be offered in raffles and such.
Q: Is lorae'tyr-abyran'a harder to use than lorae'tyr-abyran?
A: I don't know.
Q: What else do I need to know?
A: You might get a free Enchiridion Valentia that is even fancier than the expensive ones sold in the guilds.
A: Saturday at 9:00 p.m. eastern in Prime. See post 648.
Q: Where is it?
A: The Faendryl embassy in Ta'Illistim. See posts 558 and 614 for directions.
Q: How much does it cost?
A: It's free!
Q: What runes will be taught?
A: Lorae'tyr-abyran, lorae'tyr-abyran'a, lorae'tyr-grantris, lorae'tyr-igaesha and lorae'tyr-verlok. See post 581.
Q: Which rune should I choose?
A: It depends.
Q: If I choose lorae'tyr-abyran, what demon type will I get when I use it?
A: You randomly get either an abyran'a or an abyran'sa. More of the former than the latter.
Q: Why would anybody want to learn lorae'tyr-abyran'a, instead of lorae'tyr-abyran?
A: There is no known mechanical reason. I suspect that the lorae'tyr-abyran'a rune exists so that it can be offered in raffles and such.
Q: Is lorae'tyr-abyran'a harder to use than lorae'tyr-abyran?
A: I don't know.
Q: What else do I need to know?
A: You might get a free Enchiridion Valentia that is even fancier than the expensive ones sold in the guilds.
>Q: Is lorae'tyr-abyran'a harder to use than lorae'tyr-abyran?
>A: I don't know.
Abyran'a has a 125 rank requirement for 100% success, 100 ranks in chamber. By comparison, Abyran has a 100 rank requirement for 100% success, 75 in chamber.
In other words, yes it is harder. You hav a 25% penalty to your success rate as the price for eliminating the possibility to get the superior variant.
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>Barnom exclaims, "I smell delicious!"
>Barnom says, "Like sage and nutmeg.
>"Walkar says, "Yes, too many kings never work. Especially when there's only one throne. It's a wicked game."
>Shameless plug.
>A: I don't know.
Abyran'a has a 125 rank requirement for 100% success, 100 ranks in chamber. By comparison, Abyran has a 100 rank requirement for 100% success, 75 in chamber.
In other words, yes it is harder. You hav a 25% penalty to your success rate as the price for eliminating the possibility to get the superior variant.
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>Barnom exclaims, "I smell delicious!"
>Barnom says, "Like sage and nutmeg.
>"Walkar says, "Yes, too many kings never work. Especially when there's only one throne. It's a wicked game."
>Shameless plug.
