Due to a miscommunication on my part, a number of the prizes from the initial posted list were created with properties more potent than intended. In keeping consistent with our quest prize structure, the following six items will be modified for all runs:

Platinum Tray (Tier 4)
Prize	Purpose
Orase quarterstaff	Four-times enchanted quarterstaff with a hidden katana inside (down from 6x)
Black ruic longbow	Four-times enchanted somewhat-sighted longbow; Enhances Perception, Ranged Weapon, Dexterity, and Ambush Bonuses (down from 5x)
Gold Tray (Tier 6)
Prize	Purpose
Gold double leathers	Four-times enchanted double leathers with heavy critical padding and two fusion slots (down from 5x/ECP, added fusion)
Eahnor-trimmed leather	Four-times enchanted full leather with heavy critical padding and two fusion slots (down from 5x/ECP, added fusion)
Golvern full plate	Four-times enchanted full plate with heavy critical padding and two fusion slots (down from 5x/ECP, added fusion)
Eahnor-scaled armor	Four-times enchanted brigandine with heavy critical padding and two fusion slots (down from 5x/ECP, added fusion)

I apologize for the error, and will be taking steps to prevent any similar occurrences in the future. Good luck to all current and future ticket holders, and have fun storming the castle.

-M.

Personally I think the prizes should not be switched to a lower grade. It now seems like a bait and switch. I understand the premise behind it however once posted for well over a week before the "mistake" was caught, the prize structure should be left as it was. Just my two cents.

~Shi'larra
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I forgot to add that switching the prizes for up and coming runs BEFORE people have purchased tickets is fine, it is up to them if they want to purchase a ticket for an event that the prize structure has changed. Those that have purchased tickets do not have a choice in repurchasing tickets they are "stuck" with what is now offered.

~Shi'larra
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I forgot to add that switching the prizes for up and coming runs BEFORE people have purchased tickets is fine, it is up to them if they want to purchase a ticket for an event that the prize structure has changed. Those that have purchased tickets do not have a choice in repurchasing tickets they are "stuck" with what is now offered.

~Shi'larra
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I am sure Simu will offer refunds for those that feel slighted. But yeah, this is kinda like if tickets were sold to RtCF and then they came out and said oh we made a mistake prizes x, y, and z are being reduced drastically. Sorry about that.

I figured the armors were TGTBT. Though I think you could have at least kept them 5x.

not according to the website

<Sorry, no refunds.>

~Shi'larra
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Not bait and switch - unless each of you is suggesting there's a grand collusion to get your $15 for a ticket after years of getting your funds for the product itself.

A better bait and switch would be in the starting the quest and not allowing anyone to get above a tier two prize, not the prize structure, itself. And the better part would be you'd never know.

Unfortunate miscommunication, and people should be able to ask for refunds if desired. But really -- accusing another human of an unethical act?

Doug

<Sorry, no refunds.>

If they won't give one you can always call your bank up. And yes, regardless of the reasons it is still a bait and switch. You're going to tell me no one noticed until AFTER tickets were sold out? Sure.

I'll buy anyone's ticket if they don't want to go now.

Chad, player of a few

What is the old saying? If it is too good to be true it probably is? I'm saddened by the fact that I won't be able to get that brig on tier 6 for my rogue (the nice ECP stuff) and I thought I'd need to run the quest at least five times before I'd manage a tier 6 but I will still do the quest.

People are human and make mistakes and I'm sure if you don't want to go on the run someone will gladly take your place. I thought tier 6 was too good to be true. I think the problem is that Simu has made too many last minute changes in the past after everyone has gotten so excited about it and hence we get disappointed and angry.

At least they didn't sell 100 runs of tickets and then change it. I think in all fairness, perhaps those that have purchased tickets should be allowed to get the original items that were promised. And no, I did not get lucky enough to get one of the first run tickets.


Velvette...bowcrazy

I think in all fairness, perhaps those that have purchased tickets should be allowed to get the original items that were promised. And no, I did not get lucky enough to get one of the first run tickets.>>>>

What's the fair part, that they were lucky enough to join first? Maybe will no one will win Tier 6 during the first 2 rounds, but adding a whole other level of disappointment to this quest is just going to make things worse. Either keep an even playing field, or bring the old prizes back and make Tier 6 almost impossible, but don't expect me to pay the same amount as someone who gets 5 times the prize.

How come this wasn't fixed earlier? The GameMasters put in a lot of work on these items but it took the higher ups this long to notice the prize list? As soon as the list was released the Tier 6 prizes stood out like a sore thumb to anyone that glanced at it. As mentioned, goofs like these seem to happen with every event. There is truly a lack of communication going on.

Somehow I think if they let the first two runs have the original prizes then changed the prizes later there would be much much more lamentation, anguish, and gnashing of teeth than doing it before the first run.

Chad, player of a few

>>Guys, this was an honest mistake. It had nothing to do with a bait and switch.

I'm sure no one sat around saying "let's lure them in with one thing and then change them later on." However, that doesn't mean that "we advertised this one way and now we have to change it after the tickets are sold" is okay if there was no malicious forethought. That's not okay. At the very least customers who bought tickets in good faith based on the advertised prize list should be offered a refund if they desire.

The right way:

"Hey guys, we made a mistake with the prize list. Here's the new list. If anyone wants a refund we'll be happy to oblige and resell the tickets."

The Simu way (aka the wrong way):

"Hey guys, we made a mistake with the prize list. Here's the new list. Deal with it."

Most likely most people who bought tickets wouldn't want a refund, but for the few who did, you would almost definitely resell the tickets immediately. Nothing would be lost by Simu and customers would be left feeling good instead of angry again.

~~k

<And agreed on making the golvern plate 4x being ridiculous. Change the metal or put the enchant back to the normal enchant of golvern.>

Yes, make the prize rolaren plate armor is you're keeping the enchant at 4x HCP fusion. 4x golvern is silly.

Disclaimer: Above statement not only because I really really want rolaren plate but because metal not at properties listed on official docs is annoying as well.

Another motion to please fix the plate material. Preferably to something non-lame, no vultite please.

>>That was hyperbole on my part. No one that I know of has blatantly said "deal with it." I was extrapolating based on the wording of the announcement.

GM Mestys posted:

Due to a miscommunication on my part, a number of the prizes from the initial posted list were created with properties more potent than intended. In keeping consistent with our quest prize structure, the following six items will be modified for all runs:

>>prizes

I apologize for the error, and will be taking steps to prevent any similar occurrences in the future. Good luck to all current and future ticket holders, and have fun storming the castle.

He apologized, explained what the new structure will be for those prizes that were changed, and wished players good luck. I get being frustrated. I 100% understand that. But I think people are getting each other worked up on their perceived understanding of what was said.

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~Wyrom, SGM
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Because those GMs aren't on the team that oversee the properties.

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~Wyrom, SGM
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>>They don't know how to post on the forums, or email someone else to bring it to people's attention?

Everyone who posted thought those guidelines were correct. It wasn't until the proper people saw it and caught the mistake. Even I didn't know that there was a mistake. This is really a case of a single digit in the formulas being wrong.

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~Wyrom, SGM
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And since this event was advertised as offering items that would be able to be worked on at RtCF, fusion on the armor essentially eliminated that for the armor, how about offering a bane option on the armor instead of fusion?

Personally I don't see why the armor had to drop to 4x, but that's another story.

-Richard/Fjalar.

If the people who are in charge of these decisions aren't interested in being involved in the decision making when it goes on then why do they care about nerfing the items? If Solomon and Sirina are so busy with Dragon Realms maybe they should give someone else the job that is actually interested in doing it.