We will be offering a test-run of the new Mania system on Friday night. It will have small items and offerings so that we can let you play with and test the system. This is designed to help alleviate some of the stress and anxiety on how all of this will work for Saturday and Sunday. We are looking at 2 2-hour sessions from 7pm – 9pm, 10pm – 12am.
~*~ Thandiwe ~*~
SGM of Events
New Mania Mechanics Test Run on Friday Night on 02/21/2022 11:48 PM CST
Re: New Mania Mechanics Test Run on Friday Night on 02/22/2022 10:15 AM CST
Re: New Mania Mechanics Test Run on Friday Night on 02/25/2022 04:10 PM CST
Hello,
The testing tonight will be starting at 7pm. It will run for 2 hours, and then take a break for 1 hour, only to start back up again at 10pm.
That all being said, if we run out of items then the test is over.
There are 30 items to get through. To temper expectations, I want to remind you all that this is a test of the system and isn't intended to have a robust & heavy-handed offering. We tried to collect some items of interest and some items that pop.
Here are the offerings for tonight:
2 - Eviscerating Knife - Auction Unlock - Must have T2 Knife
3 - Eviscerating Knife - Edible Unlock - Must have Knife
5 - Convert Eviscerating Knife to Functional Knife - Must trade-in knife
1 - Serving Case - Includes custom spoon, fork, knife, bowl, plate, and teacup for 4
2 - Custom Fatal Afflares Cert - Can be tracked in DUSKRUIN
1 - T4 Black Rose Deck unlock - Must have Minimum of T1 Deck
1 - Fully Unlocked Peretta Gown - Can be added to current Peretta Gown OR added to a gown you own that is not Peretta
1 - Fully Unlocked Peretta Cloak w. Feature Hide - Can be added to current Peretta Cloak OR be added to current cloak you own that is not Peretta
1 - Custom Illusion Prop - Must have illusion pin from Be Warez
1 - Gambling Kit Tier 2 Unlock - Normal Unlock Voucher
1 - Gambling Kit - Coin Deepening 1k - Normal Unlock Voucher
1 - Gambling Kit - Coin Deepening 5k - Normal Unlock Voucher
1 - Hidden Bracer - Item is ready
1 - Maximumm RPA Orb - Item is ready
1 - Alter Fodder - Veil Pearl - Item is ready
1 - Alter Fodder - Lor - Item is ready
1 - Alter Fodder - Zydris - Item is ready
1 - Alter Fodder - Wrotwood - Item is ready
1 - Alter Fodder - Widowwood - Item is ready
1 - Alter Fodder - Balenite - Item is ready
1 - Alter Fodder - Forest Jade - Item is ready
1 - Gory Unlock - Can be added to current Gory item OR added to a qualifying item
~*~ Thandiwe ~*~
SGM of Events
The testing tonight will be starting at 7pm. It will run for 2 hours, and then take a break for 1 hour, only to start back up again at 10pm.
That all being said, if we run out of items then the test is over.
There are 30 items to get through. To temper expectations, I want to remind you all that this is a test of the system and isn't intended to have a robust & heavy-handed offering. We tried to collect some items of interest and some items that pop.
Here are the offerings for tonight:
2 - Eviscerating Knife - Auction Unlock - Must have T2 Knife
3 - Eviscerating Knife - Edible Unlock - Must have Knife
5 - Convert Eviscerating Knife to Functional Knife - Must trade-in knife
1 - Serving Case - Includes custom spoon, fork, knife, bowl, plate, and teacup for 4
2 - Custom Fatal Afflares Cert - Can be tracked in DUSKRUIN
1 - T4 Black Rose Deck unlock - Must have Minimum of T1 Deck
1 - Fully Unlocked Peretta Gown - Can be added to current Peretta Gown OR added to a gown you own that is not Peretta
1 - Fully Unlocked Peretta Cloak w. Feature Hide - Can be added to current Peretta Cloak OR be added to current cloak you own that is not Peretta
1 - Custom Illusion Prop - Must have illusion pin from Be Warez
1 - Gambling Kit Tier 2 Unlock - Normal Unlock Voucher
1 - Gambling Kit - Coin Deepening 1k - Normal Unlock Voucher
1 - Gambling Kit - Coin Deepening 5k - Normal Unlock Voucher
1 - Hidden Bracer - Item is ready
1 - Maximumm RPA Orb - Item is ready
1 - Alter Fodder - Veil Pearl - Item is ready
1 - Alter Fodder - Lor - Item is ready
1 - Alter Fodder - Zydris - Item is ready
1 - Alter Fodder - Wrotwood - Item is ready
1 - Alter Fodder - Widowwood - Item is ready
1 - Alter Fodder - Balenite - Item is ready
1 - Alter Fodder - Forest Jade - Item is ready
1 - Gory Unlock - Can be added to current Gory item OR added to a qualifying item
~*~ Thandiwe ~*~
SGM of Events
Re: New Mania Mechanics Test Run on Friday Night on 02/25/2022 07:25 PM CST
Re: New Mania Mechanics Test Run on Friday Night on 02/25/2022 11:25 PM CST
In regard to the platinum test, the timeframe seemed to be 15 min plus if the item was allowed to reduce price until disposal. We got through about 15 or 16 items overall. Even if the item was purchased immediately it was at least 6 min until the next item could be bid upon.
9:40[Mania] Doenay Wollborg: "Mania Update! A praying half-krolvin effigy is ready for your inspection."
9:58[Mania] Doenay Wollborg: "Mania Update! A gilded scroll trinket is ready for your inspection."
10:22[Mania] Doenay Wollborg: "Mania Update! An unfinished wrotwood fetish is ready for your inspection."
10:28[Mania] Doenay Wollborg: "Mania Update! A paper gown cut-out is ready for your inspection."
10:52[Mania] Doenay Wollborg: "Mania Update! An intricately carved glassless zydris hand mirror is ready for your inspection."
10:58[Mania] Doenay Wollborg: "Mania Update! A segmented widowwood box with a floral-patterned lid is ready for your inspection."
11:01[Mania] Doenay Wollborg: "Time for a break! Back shortly."
Improvements for platinum:
Reduce the showcase period to 30 seconds if possible
Reduce the time between bid drops to 15 seconds if possible
Reduce the time between items to 1 min if possible
Remove the mandatory hour long breaks
9:40[Mania] Doenay Wollborg: "Mania Update! A praying half-krolvin effigy is ready for your inspection."
9:58[Mania] Doenay Wollborg: "Mania Update! A gilded scroll trinket is ready for your inspection."
10:22[Mania] Doenay Wollborg: "Mania Update! An unfinished wrotwood fetish is ready for your inspection."
10:28[Mania] Doenay Wollborg: "Mania Update! A paper gown cut-out is ready for your inspection."
10:52[Mania] Doenay Wollborg: "Mania Update! An intricately carved glassless zydris hand mirror is ready for your inspection."
10:58[Mania] Doenay Wollborg: "Mania Update! A segmented widowwood box with a floral-patterned lid is ready for your inspection."
11:01[Mania] Doenay Wollborg: "Time for a break! Back shortly."
Improvements for platinum:
Reduce the showcase period to 30 seconds if possible
Reduce the time between bid drops to 15 seconds if possible
Reduce the time between items to 1 min if possible
Remove the mandatory hour long breaks
As I gaze over the horizon, the wind tugs at my cloak and whispers, "Adventure" in my ear. |
A squeaky halfling nearby asks, "Why you playing with orcs heads and troll rearends?!" |
Re: New Mania Mechanics Test Run on Friday Night on 02/25/2022 11:30 PM CST
And finish the item on the table before break time/end of auction. There are other things I could suggest but I'm too upset to make the attempt.
I feel like Plat is being punished with this system. The last time I was this upset about an event IG I played DragonRealms.
Wee Sleepy Gnomette's player
From nearby, you hear Vyrshkana yell, "Why I's still drunkifyinged!"
Zicune yells, "Phenomenal cosmic liquir!"
Zicune yells, "Itty bitty drinker!"
I feel like Plat is being punished with this system. The last time I was this upset about an event IG I played DragonRealms.
Wee Sleepy Gnomette's player
From nearby, you hear Vyrshkana yell, "Why I's still drunkifyinged!"
Zicune yells, "Phenomenal cosmic liquir!"
Zicune yells, "Itty bitty drinker!"
Re: New Mania Mechanics Test Run on Friday Night on 02/25/2022 11:32 PM CST
Agreed, in addition to these suggestions, can we please have a staff member watching the Plat Mania event more closely for issues? A few problems with our auction resulted in players standing around wondering if anyone in the room had sent a report that the auction was broken/bugged.
Thank you
Brigit
Re: New Mania Mechanics Test Run on Friday Night on 02/25/2022 11:44 PM CST
I have to agree. The system doesn't quite work for Plat, and some tweaks, especially with timing, would be muchly appreciated. There simply isn't the massive volume of people here, thus the auction (Friday test auction) seemed almost a waste, since I'm not sure even half the items went out.
Thanks :)
Re: New Mania Mechanics Test Run on Friday Night on 02/25/2022 11:48 PM CST
Re: New Mania Mechanics Test Run on Friday Night on 02/25/2022 11:49 PM CST
Re: New Mania Mechanics Test Run on Friday Night on 02/25/2022 11:54 PM CST
Re: New Mania Mechanics Test Run on Friday Night on 02/25/2022 11:58 PM CST
Re: New Mania Mechanics Test Run on Friday Night on 02/26/2022 12:10 AM CST
Okay fine.
I loved seeing the list of stuff. I bought several things on it that I've been trying to get my hands on for quite some time.
But a test of a system like this should not be using items that people are trying to find. Stuff that's rare and desirable.
It should be using things that repay cost, or things that don't matter whether or not they go down the chute, or run out of time.
Examples:
Put up silvers notes of varying amounts for bloodscrip. Put up a wad of bloodscrip worth 75k BS for 75k BS opening bid. Put lesser amounts out for the same opening bid to test price drops. Put voucher books out. Simucoin stuff. Enhancive potions, encumbrance potions, transport spheres (in PRIME). The RPA orb was on the list; could have more of those in varied colors. Stuff often included in giftboxes or the silvers pile.
Putting out a list of stuff of varying desirability and rarity - some of it stuff I'm not sure I've ever seen offered at all - and then not ensuring or allowing it all to go out, one way or another, is a recipe for massive disappointment.
Having an auction not finish because of an arbitrary time limit is far far worse.
I'm going to just agree with all the timing issues, and the breaking of the auctioneer in Prime also broke it in Plat and request a Plat-specific mania monitoring GM. And ask for, beg for, plead for the opportunity to have the remainder of the test items released in Plat in some fashion.
I'm too angry and heartbroken for anything else.
Vyrshkana's player
From nearby, you hear Vyrshkana yell, "Why I's still drunkifyinged!"
Zicune yells, "Phenomenal cosmic liquir!"
Zicune yells, "Itty bitty drinker!"
I loved seeing the list of stuff. I bought several things on it that I've been trying to get my hands on for quite some time.
But a test of a system like this should not be using items that people are trying to find. Stuff that's rare and desirable.
It should be using things that repay cost, or things that don't matter whether or not they go down the chute, or run out of time.
Examples:
Put up silvers notes of varying amounts for bloodscrip. Put up a wad of bloodscrip worth 75k BS for 75k BS opening bid. Put lesser amounts out for the same opening bid to test price drops. Put voucher books out. Simucoin stuff. Enhancive potions, encumbrance potions, transport spheres (in PRIME). The RPA orb was on the list; could have more of those in varied colors. Stuff often included in giftboxes or the silvers pile.
Putting out a list of stuff of varying desirability and rarity - some of it stuff I'm not sure I've ever seen offered at all - and then not ensuring or allowing it all to go out, one way or another, is a recipe for massive disappointment.
Having an auction not finish because of an arbitrary time limit is far far worse.
I'm going to just agree with all the timing issues, and the breaking of the auctioneer in Prime also broke it in Plat and request a Plat-specific mania monitoring GM. And ask for, beg for, plead for the opportunity to have the remainder of the test items released in Plat in some fashion.
I'm too angry and heartbroken for anything else.
Vyrshkana's player
From nearby, you hear Vyrshkana yell, "Why I's still drunkifyinged!"
Zicune yells, "Phenomenal cosmic liquir!"
Zicune yells, "Itty bitty drinker!"
Re: New Mania Mechanics Test Run on Friday Night on 02/26/2022 01:36 AM CST
I truly don't understand why a cart with the items isn't being put out for the platinum community? Wyrom did that in the past and it worked well with no major complaints. Everyone knew what was being put out and had "pretty much" agreed to who was getting what.
I understand automation is desired but let's be honest, it never seems to work out or make GM lives easy. I think this is the first DR where the trove hasn't had a bug of some sort. So instead of putting out a cart with a long RT after purchasing or having a GM run event that takes 1-2 hours in plat, you spread it out over two days with a timed, reverse auction system, that apparently still has bugs. If this is the future of the mania, cool. I'll just block off an entire weekend because GMs want to "automate".
The excuse of "You forget that those same GMs are doing redemptions, bug reports, assists, monitoring this channel, preparing for the next event that runs in 6 short weeks, working on the next new big system, getting knotted up worrying about if X, Y, Z" isn't valid. If that workload is being pushed on a couple of people while others skate through, then internal restructuring needs to take place. I understand you guys work for peanuts, but it doesn't mean it needs to be at a circus.
TLDR: Mania taking up 10 hours of a weekend is ludicrous. Figure out a better way to do this than some clunky automation system.
PS: I care about your feelings but if I designed a half-hearted system for automation then freaked out when it didn't work, I'd be in front of a performance review board. Get more bodies on your team or pass the torch to someone more capable.
~Josh