Survival Kits Auto Bundling? on 02/07/2016 10:13 AM CST
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I purchased a dark leather survival kit from Survive and Thrive, and it appears that the kits have the same actions as the auto-bundling kits. However, it doesn't seem to auto-bundle herbs - putting two of the same herb in the kit doesn't bundle the herbs. I've verified that even taking an herb out, doing a bundle remove, and putting the two pieces back in the kit doesn't create a bundle. Is this expected behavior?
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Re: Survival Kits Auto Bundling? on 02/07/2016 10:39 AM CST
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Does it need to be unlocked, maybe?
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Re: Survival Kits Auto Bundling? on 02/07/2016 11:05 AM CST
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Analyze doesn't mention a need for unlocking, unlock the harnesses in Fortified Fortress (which I really want to know who can unlock those, but I've had no luck hunting it down so far.) I realize that doesn't mean it doesn't need an unlock, but it's a bit confusing.
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Re: Survival Kits Auto Bundling? on 02/07/2016 11:10 AM CST
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>>Analyze doesn't mention a need for unlocking, unlock the harnesses in Fortified Fortress (which I really want to know who can unlock those, but I've had no luck hunting it down so far.) I realize that doesn't mean it doesn't need an unlock, but it's a bit confusing.

Post the analyze for the harnesses in Fortified Fortress, please.
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Re: Survival Kits Auto Bundling? on 02/07/2016 11:16 AM CST
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You analyze your dark oilskin harness and sense that the item is largely free from merchant alteration restrictions.

The creator has also provided the following information:

The dark oilskin harness isn't unlocked. It has 4 verbs.

When altering, keep in mind that the harness's messaging references large and small containers, and a row of weapon slots and straps. These can all be altered by a skilled merchant. The should remain plural. Currently, they are set to slots (wands and small weapons), straps (belted weapons), a series of straps (back weapons), large sacks (bundled weapons), narrow tubes (paper and scrolls), small pouches (trinkets), and containers (anything else).

You might be able to have a talented merchant lighten the dark oilskin harness for you or deepen its pockets.
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Re: Survival Kits Auto Bundling? on 02/07/2016 11:29 AM CST
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That harness is a T0 (Off-the-Shelf) Cidholfus/Vahmyr bandolier. See here: https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Cidolfhus#Bandoliers
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Re: Survival Kits Auto Bundling? on 02/07/2016 11:50 AM CST
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So now I know the correct name for the script/type of harness. Now I just need to to figure out who is the right merchant to unlock it, if possible.
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Re: Survival Kits Auto Bundling? on 02/07/2016 11:54 AM CST
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>>So now I know the correct name for the script/type of harness. Now I just need to to figure out who is the right merchant to unlock it, if possible.

Xerria
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Re: Survival Kits Auto Bundling? on 02/09/2016 03:42 PM CST
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FYI - I spoke with GM Elidi today who confirmed the survival kits are locked herb auto-bundlers, even though there is currently not verbiage showing it as such. We were advised to post our complaints about it here so please do so if you have an issue with it and the Shop Owner will review and respond.

~Fonkeye
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Re: Survival Kits Auto Bundling? on 02/09/2016 04:09 PM CST
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I am sure that unlocking those is a special service needing permission. I unlock them at each EG. It is not my script but one I use each year.

~ Valyrka ~
Ta'Illistim
Elves
Dark Elves
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Re: Survival Kits Auto Bundling? on 02/09/2016 04:17 PM CST
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I have the exact same question problem and when you analyze them they say nothing about being unlocked and there were no signs as to such and also EVERY OTHER SURVIVAL KIT that I have ever seen has been an auto bundler. Any
chance on a clarification please?

Thank you!
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Re: Survival Kits Auto Bundling? on 02/09/2016 04:33 PM CST
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>>I have the exact same question problem and when you analyze them they say nothing about being unlocked

As I mentioned, some of the older scripts do not have unlock status in the item's analyze. The kit you had on hand today was not unlocked.

~*GM Elidi*~
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Re: Survival Kits Auto Bundling? on 02/09/2016 05:05 PM CST
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>EVERY OTHER SURVIVAL KIT that I have ever seen has been an auto bundler

The kits at EG were locked.
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Re: Survival Kits Auto Bundling? on 02/09/2016 05:05 PM CST
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edit: except for the one on the prize wall.
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Re: Survival Kits Auto Bundling? on 02/09/2016 05:18 PM CST
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This past EG was the first time I've seen them locked at all, or heard of them being a locked item. EG 13 and 14, as well as other events prior to EG 15, they were sold off the shelf with bundling capabilities active. I bought numerous kits at events throughout 2013 and 2014(EG '14 their max capacity was "fixed" and I remember a bit of an uproar on the boards concerning them, so I know for certain that those were bought at that venue), and all of them bundled straight away. I think it's just something that was changed to a locked status OTS and was not communicated.
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Re: Survival Kits Auto Bundling? on 02/09/2016 07:12 PM CST
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All the kits have been locked in the shop I have run at EG for 3 years.

I do recall that the shop that was the cause of the uproar did have them unlocked, but that was not supposed to be. My shops always had them locked, because that is how I was told to sell them off the shelf.

Auto-bundling is a service I offer every EG to everyone who comes. I have specific permission to unlock them, so I know this is the norm. If some were sold off the shelf unlocked, it was due to an oversight.

As was stated, this is an older item and sometimes they do not place nice with new shiny things like the new analyze.





~ Valyrka ~
Ta'Illistim
Elves
Dark Elves
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Re: Survival Kits Auto Bundling? on 02/09/2016 07:27 PM CST
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Thanks for clarifying these are a locked item, and Ebon's Gate is where to look for unlocks! A bit sad to have purchased one expecting it was auto-bundling by default (the wiki didn't mention these required unlocking,) but I can update the wiki accordingly. Thanks!
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Re: Survival Kits Auto Bundling? on 02/15/2016 01:07 PM CST
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I wish that the sign said something to that effect or when you inspected them. I never seen one that wasnt already unlocked!!!

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Brett
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