These are both 40+ casts of Smite Foe and Shatter, on an Archer that is already beat up.

You gesture at a giant one-eyed archer.
Your cambrinth amulet emits a loud snap as it discharges its power to aid your spell.
A brilliant stream of pure white light jumps from you to a giant one-eyed archer, warping into a hammer-shaped force that slams into it!
A giant one-eyed archer is able to shrug off the magical strike.
The hammer-shaped light silently explodes.
Roundtime: 3 seconds

You gesture at a giant one-eyed archer.
Your cambrinth armband emits a loud snap as it discharges its power to aid your spell.
Uncomfortable looking twists pull at a giant one-eyed archer's skin, but no noticeable damage is done.
Roundtime: 4 seconds

C'mon.. throw me a bone here. These are even with at 21 minute 'greatly' MO up. Yesterday night I had a high level pirate MR a 50+ halt.

>>maybe the archers are Barbarians.

Other spells work fine on them, at much lower preps. It's when I actually try to do physical or vitality damage that nothing works.

Exactly what will I be expected to have to actually have my magic function at higher level critters? It's not like its not tedious to train as it is.

uhh let me just make a side note, MO has absolutely no affect what so ever in smite, you'll have the same affect wether its min prep, not on at all, or max. It won't help its a Spell vs. Stamina spell, that equation doesn't use charisma or discipline in it at all.

So your looking at the wrong spell to help

shrugs what do I know, maybe its the courage? cause courage would help more then MO

well either way the main stats for spell vs stamina is STrenght and Stamina and uhh they probably have an insane amount of both, especially strenght to wield those massive swords on their back, its not will vs will. so either way noone in the realms would probably ever be able to affect a cyclops or one eyed archer with it

you just said it right there <g>

>>"For Spell vs Stamina spells: The caster will use discipline, charisma, stamina and strength. The target uses stamina and strength."

Target uses stamina and strenght, Caster uses Stamina and Strenght, discipline may be a higher affect for the caster but its not used on the target so your fighting against the targets Stamina and Strenght, nothing else meaning to defend it is the main stat, and the most common ones so it is the most important overall in the equation.

and like I said before, lotta stamina and alotta strenght to wield those swords so your discipline, charisma, strenght, stamina, and PM may never be able to overpower the strenght and stamina of the Cyclops

>>For Spell vs Stamina spells: The caster will use discipline, charisma, stamina and strength. The target uses stamina and strength. A modifier is current health of the target. The change here is the addition of stamina and strength to the part of the caster, and appropriate fiddling to maintain forumla balance on the side of the target.

Which would mean courage (which increases stamina) and MO (which increases discipline) would increase power of the spell.

-Frogspawn

>>thought ya meant that stamina wasn't the main attribute <g>

THere's no way to say if it is or if it isn't.

I doubt three points would make that big of a difference, especially with their low magical skills.