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>>Negatory, there is no brawling item sold that boosts claw damage.
They may be referring to the Prydaen "claw" HP(?) hand armor, but I think those are quite rare.
I wish there was brawling equipment which enhanced claw damage.
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>>Are you referring to the claw guards? If so, these are not armor at all, nor do they boost damage. They are purely for decoration.
According to the link below they are plate (assuming neutral), which would give brawling damage.
http://www.prydaen.com/wiki/index.php/Twansic%27s_Tent
According to the link below they are plate (assuming neutral), which would give brawling damage.
http://www.prydaen.com/wiki/index.php/Twansic%27s_Tent
If you wear HP armor, the only brawling weapon you really need is footwraps, I think. I haven't tested, but I definitely recall some GM saying that HP (or maybe just plate) was intended to still give the best bonus to brawling, and the only moves a full set of plate doesn't seem to affect are claw, gouge, bite, kick, and sweep.
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From my (non-scientific) testing HP gauntlets are about equal to knuckles. Maybe a little less. I like to keep my look short though, so I only wear the footwraps.
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>>Ok guys. Id brawling really meant to be so difficult to learn? I'm hunting at my level in crossing goblins. I have 28 in brawling. I have been in there 45 minutes as of this moment and brawling has got to thoughtful a few times then pulses back to learning. I did this for an hour earlier.
I have really good luck with either:
Punch Claw Kick
or
Punch Claw Elbow Kick
Slap, Gouge, ect... junk like that are low damage moves. Punch and Kick are where its at, especially with Knuckes and Footwraps. claw and elbow are for balance, I would really only elbow if you had elbow spikes.
If you want something non damaging:
Parry shove circle Weave bob
and here its the shove that is really teaching you, note that a successful shove pushes your opponante to pole (maybe even missile) so this doesnt work well if your Defenceing against only one critter.
I have really good luck with either:
Punch Claw Kick
or
Punch Claw Elbow Kick
Slap, Gouge, ect... junk like that are low damage moves. Punch and Kick are where its at, especially with Knuckes and Footwraps. claw and elbow are for balance, I would really only elbow if you had elbow spikes.
If you want something non damaging:
Parry shove circle Weave bob
and here its the shove that is really teaching you, note that a successful shove pushes your opponante to pole (maybe even missile) so this doesnt work well if your Defenceing against only one critter.
>If you want something non damaging:
>Parry shove circle Weave bob
>and here its the shove that is really teaching you, note that a successful shove pushes your opponante to pole (maybe even missile) so this doesnt work well if your Defenceing against only one critter.
I recommend Bob x 30, hunt, bob x 30, etc.
>Parry shove circle Weave bob
>and here its the shove that is really teaching you, note that a successful shove pushes your opponante to pole (maybe even missile) so this doesnt work well if your Defenceing against only one critter.
I recommend Bob x 30, hunt, bob x 30, etc.
not only that but the beach boys will sue 'em for copyright infringement...
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I've seen no evidence suggesting that brawling gear affects regular hunting. You should be fine.
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[21:34] Your mind hears Kalnean thinking, "You don't have any kids, do you."
[21:35] Your mind hears Mujaki thinking, "I hope not."
[21:34] Your mind hears Mujaki thinking, "You are never too young for liquor."
[21:34] Your mind hears Kalnean thinking, "You don't have any kids, do you."
[21:35] Your mind hears Mujaki thinking, "I hope not."
not that i've noticed, although there are people that say that the knuckles might effect it in some way. You don't get messaged that they interfere with it, as you do with disarming a box, but for my characters, they usually take off the knuckles before going stealing. The other gear most likely doesn't hinder disarm <footwraps, elbow and knee spikes>, so i would figure they don't hinder stealing at all.
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<<How about stealing? Is it affected by brawling gear?>>
I have no idea, however it's good to get in the practice of taking that sort of stuff off when doing non-hunting activities. Better safe than sorry.
[21:34] Your mind hears Mujaki thinking, "You are never too young for liquor."
[21:34] Your mind hears Kalnean thinking, "You don't have any kids, do you."
[21:35] Your mind hears Mujaki thinking, "I hope not."
I have no idea, however it's good to get in the practice of taking that sort of stuff off when doing non-hunting activities. Better safe than sorry.
[21:34] Your mind hears Mujaki thinking, "You are never too young for liquor."
[21:34] Your mind hears Kalnean thinking, "You don't have any kids, do you."
[21:35] Your mind hears Mujaki thinking, "I hope not."
Why stop brawling to train something else?
Not only can you use your gear with other weapons, you can use your attacks with those weapons in hand.
Circle,
Kick,
Elbow,
Bob,
Weave,
Grab,
Knee,
Butt,
Punch,
Shove,
Open hand required:
Sweep,
Slam,
Pummel,
Jab,
If you have your left hand open, it doesn't teach Offhand, which means 100% of the attack goes toward brawling if you Kick Left, Sweep Left, or Jab Left while holding your longsword.
If there were no cost or sacrifice involved, there wouldn't be any benefits worth learning, and the entire system would be pointless. --GM Wythor
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Not only can you use your gear with other weapons, you can use your attacks with those weapons in hand.
Circle,
Kick,
Elbow,
Bob,
Weave,
Grab,
Knee,
Butt,
Punch,
Shove,
Open hand required:
Sweep,
Slam,
Pummel,
Jab,
If you have your left hand open, it doesn't teach Offhand, which means 100% of the attack goes toward brawling if you Kick Left, Sweep Left, or Jab Left while holding your longsword.
If there were no cost or sacrifice involved, there wouldn't be any benefits worth learning, and the entire system would be pointless. --GM Wythor
These statements were not endorsed or made by a GM and may be completely irrealavent to game play.
>If you have your left hand open, it doesn't teach Offhand, which means 100% of the attack goes toward brawling if you Kick Left, Sweep Left, or Jab Left while holding your longsword.
Isn't this true if you hold your sword in your right hand and just type punch, kick, elbow, or other brawling moves? I wasn't aware you needed to specify left, unless you're suggesting we work offhand brawling moves into our normal combat routine?
Wouldn't it be better to put one of the balance neutral moves in in a normal loop, and keep the big damage moves for weapons, which have better stats (mostly)?
Isn't this true if you hold your sword in your right hand and just type punch, kick, elbow, or other brawling moves? I wasn't aware you needed to specify left, unless you're suggesting we work offhand brawling moves into our normal combat routine?
Wouldn't it be better to put one of the balance neutral moves in in a normal loop, and keep the big damage moves for weapons, which have better stats (mostly)?
>Isn't this true if you hold your sword in your right hand and just type punch, kick, elbow, or other brawling moves? I wasn't aware you needed to specify left, unless you're suggesting we work offhand brawling moves into our normal combat routine?
"Left" (provided your hand is empty) will let you do the brawling moves that require empty hands like jab, sweep, etc. If, I guess, you wanted to brawl but parry with something else?
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"Left" (provided your hand is empty) will let you do the brawling moves that require empty hands like jab, sweep, etc. If, I guess, you wanted to brawl but parry with something else?
"...I am inclined to think the focus of the [Warmage's] spellbook should be ways to make things explode, to help you make things explode, or to assist your victim in exploding." -Armifer
>Isn't this true if you hold your sword in your right hand and just type punch, kick, elbow, or other brawling moves? I wasn't aware you needed to specify left, unless you're suggesting we work offhand brawling moves into our normal combat routine?
IF
Your hands are empty, all attacks, except "DRAW" are brawling.
IF
Your right hand is full, only a select set of moves can be used to brawl.
IF
You Want to learn brawling while using regular attacks and holding a weapon in your right hand, work in left.
(attack)
(attack left)
You don't have to do anything, just the mechanics are, as stated in Offhand, Brawling does not teach offhand, and offhand does not teach brawling.
Brawling is a whole body skill.
The point is, you don't have to stop learning what ever weapon is in your hand just to learn brawling.
If there were no cost or sacrifice involved, there wouldn't be any benefits worth learning, and the entire system would be pointless. --GM Wythor
These statements were not endorsed or made by a GM and may be completely irrealavent to game play.
IF
Your hands are empty, all attacks, except "DRAW" are brawling.
IF
Your right hand is full, only a select set of moves can be used to brawl.
IF
You Want to learn brawling while using regular attacks and holding a weapon in your right hand, work in left.
(attack)
(attack left)
You don't have to do anything, just the mechanics are, as stated in Offhand, Brawling does not teach offhand, and offhand does not teach brawling.
Brawling is a whole body skill.
The point is, you don't have to stop learning what ever weapon is in your hand just to learn brawling.
If there were no cost or sacrifice involved, there wouldn't be any benefits worth learning, and the entire system would be pointless. --GM Wythor
These statements were not endorsed or made by a GM and may be completely irrealavent to game play.
<<Could someone tell me please, the best way to train brawling? I've only got 5 ranks so far, the rest of my combat skills are in the 60-80 range. Thank you.
At low ranks you'll want to use classes or just spam 'attack' or 'attack left.' Once you hit around 50 ranks spamming 'circle, bob, weave' works well. Or just spam 'circle' or 'bob.' If spamming isn't your thing, some people substitute bob or circle for the dodge/parry in their attack combos as well with some success.
Personally, I use 'attack left' when I want to train it. It fits my penchant for offhand flavoured attacks (even though brawling isn't an offhand attack and won't teach it) and I don't have to sheathe whichever weapon I'm holding at the time to do it.
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At low ranks you'll want to use classes or just spam 'attack' or 'attack left.' Once you hit around 50 ranks spamming 'circle, bob, weave' works well. Or just spam 'circle' or 'bob.' If spamming isn't your thing, some people substitute bob or circle for the dodge/parry in their attack combos as well with some success.
Personally, I use 'attack left' when I want to train it. It fits my penchant for offhand flavoured attacks (even though brawling isn't an offhand attack and won't teach it) and I don't have to sheathe whichever weapon I'm holding at the time to do it.
-Evran
Crackling with unspent rage since 386A.V.
Hey
There's a few good ways...
- Dancing: If you want to train brawling without having to backtrain it back in goblins, you can simply CIRCLE or BOB over and over. You can do it while training defenses.
- Mix it with your other weapons: You can thrown in a CIRCLE/BOX maneuver while aiming a bow or crossbow, or while advancing on the next creature. You can also KICK LEFT or PUNCH LEFT in the middle of a weapon combo. This last one only works if you're skilled enough to hit the creature...
- All out brawling: You can use it like any other weapon. Buy some brawling gear, wear it and attack normally as if you were holding a weapon. Make sure you have a parry stick, it'll make it possible to parry attacks while not holding anything in the right hand. Parrying with a parry stick also teaches brawling.
As for the combos, i dont know any... i just use the ATTACK verb for brawling but i'm sure someone can help with that.
Enjoy and good luck keeping brawling less than 50 ranks ahead of your second weapon in the near future :D
There's a few good ways...
- Dancing: If you want to train brawling without having to backtrain it back in goblins, you can simply CIRCLE or BOB over and over. You can do it while training defenses.
- Mix it with your other weapons: You can thrown in a CIRCLE/BOX maneuver while aiming a bow or crossbow, or while advancing on the next creature. You can also KICK LEFT or PUNCH LEFT in the middle of a weapon combo. This last one only works if you're skilled enough to hit the creature...
- All out brawling: You can use it like any other weapon. Buy some brawling gear, wear it and attack normally as if you were holding a weapon. Make sure you have a parry stick, it'll make it possible to parry attacks while not holding anything in the right hand. Parrying with a parry stick also teaches brawling.
As for the combos, i dont know any... i just use the ATTACK verb for brawling but i'm sure someone can help with that.
Enjoy and good luck keeping brawling less than 50 ranks ahead of your second weapon in the near future :D
Just mix brawling with your regular weapon combo. I generally throw elbow-kick-punch-slam-circle-bob-weave in the place of Parry/Dodge if the critter is something I can hit with the amount of weapon skill that I have in parry. If not, I use circle-bob-weave before going back into attacking. It's netted me quite a lot of brawling skill in several characters.
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punch - kick - slice
Rinse repeat
Brawling's my secondary weapon, it's worked so far to about 275 ranks. I usually use a slightly longer combo to start combat with a new critter.. throw a dodge and an elbow and a claw in there somewhere, but once I get to slice, just go back through those three until critter is dead.
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Rinse repeat
Brawling's my secondary weapon, it's worked so far to about 275 ranks. I usually use a slightly longer combo to start combat with a new critter.. throw a dodge and an elbow and a claw in there somewhere, but once I get to slice, just go back through those three until critter is dead.
Segmere
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Up until about 400 ranks I'd "bob" repeatedly while dancing to train multi. I also replaced every single "dodge" with a "bob" and added in a "bob" to replace "app quick". Around 400 ranks I actually made a brawling attack script. You can start using "bob" right now and you'll see results.
I always used/use bob instead of circle or weave because it registers as a last attack of "dodge".
I always used/use bob instead of circle or weave because it registers as a last attack of "dodge".
Bob still works for me at 500+ Brawling.
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