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I currently have just over 420 ranks in leather and I'm considering switching over to LC. My plan is to use leathers with LC accessories and eventually switch to full LC. Can anyone give me an idea of how many ranks I would need in LC to start seeing the same protection as I'm currently seeing in leathers? This is assuming that I'm using capped LC and leathers.
Thanks!
I doubt anyone would be able to answer that definitively. What I can tell you is that Protection of armor increases by a factor of 1 each 150 ranks. (Disclaimer: This is what I've heard from someone who usually knows what they're talking about, I don't know this to be 100% certain.)
What this means is: Say the Protection value of your armor has an assigned point value of 100. At 150 ranks you'd be getting 100 points of Protection. At 300 ranks you'd be getting 200 points of Protection. At 450 ranks you'd be getting 300 points of protection, etc.
Absorption is static, it won't increase with skill.
-Rmel
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The ladies would love it if I shape shifted into a bear while we were making sweet sweet love. That benefit alone would make shape shifting worth it.
-Mvorn
What this means is: Say the Protection value of your armor has an assigned point value of 100. At 150 ranks you'd be getting 100 points of Protection. At 300 ranks you'd be getting 200 points of Protection. At 450 ranks you'd be getting 300 points of protection, etc.
Absorption is static, it won't increase with skill.
-Rmel
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The ladies would love it if I shape shifted into a bear while we were making sweet sweet love. That benefit alone would make shape shifting worth it.
-Mvorn
> I doubt anyone would be able to answer that definitively. What I can tell you is that Protection of armor increases by a factor of 1 each 150 ranks. (Disclaimer: This is what I've heard from someone who usually knows what they're talking about, I don't know this to be 100% certain.)
That's interesting. I've always thought that armor protection was static and absorption grew with ranks. Looks like I'll be training both leather and LC for a good while. Thanks for the reply.
That's interesting. I've always thought that armor protection was static and absorption grew with ranks. Looks like I'll be training both leather and LC for a good while. Thanks for the reply.
I started training Light and Heavy chain armor at about 400 in leather. I now have 435 in leather, 339 light chain and 259 heavy chain.
I still do not see the same level of protection in light chain as I get in leather. My guess is you'd need light chain to be similar in overall ranks as your leather armor skill to see equal or better protection.
Vagle
I still do not see the same level of protection in light chain as I get in leather. My guess is you'd need light chain to be similar in overall ranks as your leather armor skill to see equal or better protection.
Vagle
>I started training Light and Heavy chain armor at about 400 in leather. I now have 435 in leather, 339 light chain and 259 heavy chain.
>I still do not see the same level of protection in light chain as I get in leather. My guess is you'd need light chain to be similar in overall ranks as your leather armor skill to see equal or better protection.
Interesting, that was not my experience. I switched to LC at about 380 leather, and noticed a difference almost immediately, but this was with top of the line forged armor. I picked up HC a bit later, and now have 443 leather, 430 LC, and 250 HC. I only train the leather right now for tanning and TDPs.
>I still do not see the same level of protection in light chain as I get in leather. My guess is you'd need light chain to be similar in overall ranks as your leather armor skill to see equal or better protection.
Interesting, that was not my experience. I switched to LC at about 380 leather, and noticed a difference almost immediately, but this was with top of the line forged armor. I picked up HC a bit later, and now have 443 leather, 430 LC, and 250 HC. I only train the leather right now for tanning and TDPs.
Top end leather protects as well as heavy plate. Since the protection attribute grows with ranks, you will see a difference initially. However, chain has more absorption than leather...which tends to pay off later in life and is a static attribute.
The above statement is subject to the type of armor you are wearing in both catagories.
Madigan
True heroism is remarkably sober, very undramatic. It is not the urge to surpass all others at whatever cost, but the urge to serve others at whatever cost.
Arthur Ashe
The above statement is subject to the type of armor you are wearing in both catagories.
Madigan
True heroism is remarkably sober, very undramatic. It is not the urge to surpass all others at whatever cost, but the urge to serve others at whatever cost.
Arthur Ashe
Here is the forged Heavy chain hauberk I'm using currently:
The chain hauberk is heavy chain.
The hauberk looks like it offers protection for the following areas:
right arm
left arm
right leg
left leg
chest
abdomen
back
You feel certain that a chain hauberk appears to impose moderate maneuvering hindrance and offers:
good protection and high damage absorption for puncture attacks.
good protection and high damage absorption for slice attacks.
moderate protection and high damage absorption for impact attacks.
moderate protection and good damage absorption for fire attacks.
moderate protection and good damage absorption for cold attacks.
poor protection and good damage absorption for electrical attacks.
If you were only maneuvering in a chain hauberk you would be unhindered.
But considering all the armor and shields you are wearing or carrying, you are currently insignificantly hindered.
You are certain that the chain hauberk is moderately strong, and is practically in mint condition.
The chain hauberk is made with metal.
The chain hauberk is fairly flexible.
You estimate that the chain hauberk weighs about 402 stones.
You are certain that the chain hauberk is worth exactly 1800 lirums.
Roundtime: 8 seconds.
Forget who it was I bought it from but I asked for the best available.
I'll post my light chain hauberk a little later (out hunting reivers and warcats atm). It's very similar to this hauberk.
Vagle
The chain hauberk is heavy chain.
The hauberk looks like it offers protection for the following areas:
right arm
left arm
right leg
left leg
chest
abdomen
back
You feel certain that a chain hauberk appears to impose moderate maneuvering hindrance and offers:
good protection and high damage absorption for puncture attacks.
good protection and high damage absorption for slice attacks.
moderate protection and high damage absorption for impact attacks.
moderate protection and good damage absorption for fire attacks.
moderate protection and good damage absorption for cold attacks.
poor protection and good damage absorption for electrical attacks.
If you were only maneuvering in a chain hauberk you would be unhindered.
But considering all the armor and shields you are wearing or carrying, you are currently insignificantly hindered.
You are certain that the chain hauberk is moderately strong, and is practically in mint condition.
The chain hauberk is made with metal.
The chain hauberk is fairly flexible.
You estimate that the chain hauberk weighs about 402 stones.
You are certain that the chain hauberk is worth exactly 1800 lirums.
Roundtime: 8 seconds.
Forget who it was I bought it from but I asked for the best available.
I'll post my light chain hauberk a little later (out hunting reivers and warcats atm). It's very similar to this hauberk.
Vagle
>Top end leather protects as well as heavy plate. Since the protection attribute grows with ranks, you will see a difference initially. However, chain has more absorption than leather...which tends to pay off later in life and is a static attribute.
Yeah, I switch from leather to change way back before tanned leathers were easily accessible and I noticed a huge difference at equal ranks. With Chain I took less damage, survived more stuns, and nearly rid myself of one hit kills.
The spark of truth can be very powerful in the methane filled bowels of ignorance.
Yeah, I switch from leather to change way back before tanned leathers were easily accessible and I noticed a huge difference at equal ranks. With Chain I took less damage, survived more stuns, and nearly rid myself of one hit kills.
The spark of truth can be very powerful in the methane filled bowels of ignorance.
>is there a reason to use HC over LC?
In my opinion, not really. Maybe there's some really heavy HC out there that gets better than LC, but I've not seen it. Of course you also correctly pointed out, if you're already wearing chain, and it's not a hassle, why not train both LC and HC? I like d a forged LC hauberk, forged HC gloves and a visored chain helm as a chain-only setup.
~Hanryu Ves'Shomis
Sword of House Calibanor, Ambassador of the Ilithi Court, Emerald Knight, Keeper of the CEC, ... still a Ranger
http://www.kynevon.info/CombatEquipmentCompendium.xls
In my opinion, not really. Maybe there's some really heavy HC out there that gets better than LC, but I've not seen it. Of course you also correctly pointed out, if you're already wearing chain, and it's not a hassle, why not train both LC and HC? I like d a forged LC hauberk, forged HC gloves and a visored chain helm as a chain-only setup.
~Hanryu Ves'Shomis
Sword of House Calibanor, Ambassador of the Ilithi Court, Emerald Knight, Keeper of the CEC, ... still a Ranger
http://www.kynevon.info/CombatEquipmentCompendium.xls
>In my opinion, not really. Maybe there's some really heavy HC out there that gets better than LC, but I've not seen it. Of course you also correctly pointed out, if you're already wearing chain, and it's not a hassle, why not train both LC and HC?
I agree with Hanryu in that if you have to choose between one or the other, go with LC. If you can manage it, train both - the HC forged accessories tend to appraise slightly better than LC accessories anyway.
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"I for one welcome our new Lithping Overlordth."
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I agree with Hanryu in that if you have to choose between one or the other, go with LC. If you can manage it, train both - the HC forged accessories tend to appraise slightly better than LC accessories anyway.
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"I for one welcome our new Lithping Overlordth."
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This is what I have an augmented hauberk
The augmented hauberk is heavy chain.
The hauberk looks like it offers protection for the following areas:
right arm
left arm
right leg
left leg
chest
abdomen
back
You feel certain that an augmented hauberk appears to impose great maneuvering hindrance and offers:
high protection and high damage absorption for puncture attacks.
high protection and high damage absorption for slice attacks.
good protection and high damage absorption for impact attacks.
high protection and good damage absorption for fire attacks.
moderate protection and good damage absorption for cold attacks.
poor protection and good damage absorption for electrical attacks.
Let me say I personally believe that this armor has saved my life on more than one occasion. I just wish I could find a good LC eye protector. I'd be a happy kaldar.
The augmented hauberk is heavy chain.
The hauberk looks like it offers protection for the following areas:
right arm
left arm
right leg
left leg
chest
abdomen
back
You feel certain that an augmented hauberk appears to impose great maneuvering hindrance and offers:
high protection and high damage absorption for puncture attacks.
high protection and high damage absorption for slice attacks.
good protection and high damage absorption for impact attacks.
high protection and good damage absorption for fire attacks.
moderate protection and good damage absorption for cold attacks.
poor protection and good damage absorption for electrical attacks.
Let me say I personally believe that this armor has saved my life on more than one occasion. I just wish I could find a good LC eye protector. I'd be a happy kaldar.
