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Alright, I've neglected learning much about armor for a long time because I can buff myself up enough that I figured if I got something forged I'd be okay. I realize how ridiculous that sounds. Anyway, I'm backtraining my weapons and getting hit a little harder than I'd like to while trying to also backtrain shield. My question is this.. what kind of set up would I be best off with, protection wise, without having to backtrain a lot of ranks? I'd like to stick with LC on my vital areas at least because I have trained it this far.. Any advice on better LC armor for my body, and should I try backtraining other armors on other body parts?
Right now, I'm using the following hauberk along with some perfect garg hide gloves and a pretty standard balaclava
The slate grey hauberk is light chain.
The hauberk looks like it offers protection for the following areas:
right arm
left arm
right leg
left leg
chest
abdomen
back
You feel certain that a slate grey hauberk appears to impose high maneuvering hindrance and offers:
good protection and moderate damage absorption for puncture attacks.
fair protection and moderate damage absorption for slice attacks.
poor protection and fair damage absorption for impact attacks.
moderate protection and good damage absorption for fire attacks.
moderate protection and good damage absorption for cold attacks.
poor protection and good damage absorption for electrical attacks.
If you were only maneuvering in a slate grey hauberk you would be lightly hindered.
But considering all the armor and shields you are wearing or carrying, you are currently lightly hindered.
You are certain that the slate grey hauberk is of average strength, and is in pristine condition.
The slate grey hauberk is made with metal.
The slate grey hauberk is fairly flexible.
The slate grey hauberk has a bit of weight to it.
You are certain that the slate grey hauberk is worth exactly 2250 kronars.
Naissura squints at the balance beam needle and says, "The hauberk weighs about two hundred forty stones," and puts the hauberk on the counter.
SKILL: Rank/Percent towards next rank/Amount learning
Shield Usage: 114 74% pondering Leather Armor: 47 61% clear
Light Chain: 161 98% learning Heavy Chain: 10 25% clear
Heavy Plate: 9 73% clear Cloth Armor: 52 47% clear
Bone Armor: 23 02% clear
Around 200 evasion and parry, 30 strength and stamina, 35 reflex.
That should be everything relevant. Oh, and I'm armor tert. Thanks for any advice!
- Terra
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The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done." -George Carlin
I'm certainly no chain armor expert but here was the first couple things to jump out at me:
1) The appraisal on your armor looks fairly suspect to me. If it's forged, it certainly doesn't seem to stack up there with the best forged LC hauberks, unless my instincts fail me. The defensive qualities should be better across the board, I believe, and it should also have lower hindrance. So you might want to look into getting a capped forged LC hauberk, that would probably go a long way in and of itself.
2) I'd suggest cross-training HC with your LC, rather than tossing in a leather accessory. Personally I'd grab a visored chain helm from Riverhaven and some nice HC forged gloves. Doing this will eliminate the extra mixed-armor penalty you're suffering for using leather gloves. Really the only reason I could see for cross-training with leather is if you want to improve your stealth ability somewhere down the line, but since you didnt mention anything to do with hiding/stalking, I'm making the assumption that being on the 'bleeding edge' of stealth capabilities isn't a big concern for you.
Others can probably chime in with more/better suggestions, but hopefully that will help some.
"Now won't you tell me if you like what you've just heard?
And if you think the point I'm driving at absurd,
Well there's no need to tell me how or tell me why,
But I need to know the reason not to try."
- John Popper, Onslaught
1) The appraisal on your armor looks fairly suspect to me. If it's forged, it certainly doesn't seem to stack up there with the best forged LC hauberks, unless my instincts fail me. The defensive qualities should be better across the board, I believe, and it should also have lower hindrance. So you might want to look into getting a capped forged LC hauberk, that would probably go a long way in and of itself.
2) I'd suggest cross-training HC with your LC, rather than tossing in a leather accessory. Personally I'd grab a visored chain helm from Riverhaven and some nice HC forged gloves. Doing this will eliminate the extra mixed-armor penalty you're suffering for using leather gloves. Really the only reason I could see for cross-training with leather is if you want to improve your stealth ability somewhere down the line, but since you didnt mention anything to do with hiding/stalking, I'm making the assumption that being on the 'bleeding edge' of stealth capabilities isn't a big concern for you.
Others can probably chime in with more/better suggestions, but hopefully that will help some.
"Now won't you tell me if you like what you've just heard?
And if you think the point I'm driving at absurd,
Well there's no need to tell me how or tell me why,
But I need to know the reason not to try."
- John Popper, Onslaught
Simple enough. Unless you appraisal is inaccurate, you really arent getting much protection/absorbtion from you hauberk. A silver gilt hauberk from Theren would protect you better with around the same hindrance, but your best bet is to buy a forged hauberk with moderate hindrance. For a second armor you should look into a visored chain helm from riverhaven and forged chain gloves for HC.
Also ditch the leather.
"Where there is enough evidence to charge someone with a crime, we vigorously prosecute, but not every wrong, or even every violation of the law, is a crime." - Attorney General Michael B. Mukasey
Also ditch the leather.
"Where there is enough evidence to charge someone with a crime, we vigorously prosecute, but not every wrong, or even every violation of the law, is a crime." - Attorney General Michael B. Mukasey
Being armor Tert, you want the lowest hindering pieces of armor you can get your hands on. You can certainly train both light/heavy chain and leather as a bard without to much trouble.
The dark azure shirt is heavy chain.
The shirt looks like it offers protection for the following areas:
right arm
left arm
chest
abdomen
back
You feel certain that a dark azure shirt appears to impose moderate maneuvering hindrance and offers:
good protection and high damage absorption for puncture attacks.
good protection and high damage absorption for slice attacks.
good protection and high damage absorption for impact attacks.
moderate protection and good damage absorption for fire attacks.
moderate protection and good damage absorption for cold attacks.
poor protection and good damage absorption for electrical attacks.
If you were only maneuvering in a dark azure shirt you would be insignificantly hindered.
But considering all the armor and shields you are wearing or carrying, you are currently lightly hindered.
The dark azure helm is heavy chain.
The helm looks like it offers protection for the following areas:
head
neck
You feel certain that a dark azure helm appears to impose insignificant maneuvering hindrance and offers:
good protection and good damage absorption for puncture attacks.
good protection and good damage absorption for slice attacks.
good protection and good damage absorption for impact attacks.
moderate protection and moderate damage absorption for fire attacks.
moderate protection and moderate damage absorption for cold attacks.
low protection and moderate damage absorption for electrical attacks.
The dark azure greaves are light chain.
The greaves look like they offer protection for the following areas:
right leg
left leg
You feel certain that some dark azure greaves appear to impose insignificant maneuvering hindrance and offers:
good protection and good damage absorption for puncture attacks.
moderate protection and good damage absorption for slice attacks.
good protection and good damage absorption for impact attacks.
moderate protection and moderate damage absorption for fire attacks.
moderate protection and moderate damage absorption for cold attacks.
low protection and moderate damage absorption for electrical attacks.
The blight-ogre mask is leather armor.
The mask looks like it offers protection for the following areas:
right eye
left eye
You feel certain that a perfect blight-ogre mask appears to impose insignificant maneuvering hindrance and offers:
moderate protection and fair damage absorption for puncture attacks.
fair protection and fair damage absorption for slice attacks.
fair protection and fair damage absorption for impact attacks.
low protection and fair damage absorption for fire attacks.
fair protection and fair damage absorption for cold attacks.
moderate protection and fair damage absorption for electrical attacks.
The black-marbled gloves are leather armor.
The gloves look like they offer protection for the following areas:
right hand
left hand
You feel certain that some perfect black-marbled gloves appear to impose insignificant maneuvering hindrance and offers:
good protection and fair damage absorption for puncture attacks.
good protection and fair damage absorption for slice attacks.
good protection and moderate damage absorption for impact attacks.
fair protection and fair damage absorption for fire attacks.
fair protection and fair damage absorption for cold attacks.
good protection and fair damage absorption for electrical attacks.
>appr shield
You are certain that it imposes an insignificant maneuvering hinderance.
This shield is small in size.
You are certain that the shield offers rather low to high protection.(drops low-good when worn)
You are certain that it could do:
no puncture damage
no slice damage
heavy impact damage
You could try light chain shirt and helm, tanned gloves and mask and heavy chain greaves. If you are not bothered about leather, store bought balaclava, light chain shirt and gloves and heavy/light chain greaves.
Rezzian
The dark azure shirt is heavy chain.
The shirt looks like it offers protection for the following areas:
right arm
left arm
chest
abdomen
back
You feel certain that a dark azure shirt appears to impose moderate maneuvering hindrance and offers:
good protection and high damage absorption for puncture attacks.
good protection and high damage absorption for slice attacks.
good protection and high damage absorption for impact attacks.
moderate protection and good damage absorption for fire attacks.
moderate protection and good damage absorption for cold attacks.
poor protection and good damage absorption for electrical attacks.
If you were only maneuvering in a dark azure shirt you would be insignificantly hindered.
But considering all the armor and shields you are wearing or carrying, you are currently lightly hindered.
The dark azure helm is heavy chain.
The helm looks like it offers protection for the following areas:
head
neck
You feel certain that a dark azure helm appears to impose insignificant maneuvering hindrance and offers:
good protection and good damage absorption for puncture attacks.
good protection and good damage absorption for slice attacks.
good protection and good damage absorption for impact attacks.
moderate protection and moderate damage absorption for fire attacks.
moderate protection and moderate damage absorption for cold attacks.
low protection and moderate damage absorption for electrical attacks.
The dark azure greaves are light chain.
The greaves look like they offer protection for the following areas:
right leg
left leg
You feel certain that some dark azure greaves appear to impose insignificant maneuvering hindrance and offers:
good protection and good damage absorption for puncture attacks.
moderate protection and good damage absorption for slice attacks.
good protection and good damage absorption for impact attacks.
moderate protection and moderate damage absorption for fire attacks.
moderate protection and moderate damage absorption for cold attacks.
low protection and moderate damage absorption for electrical attacks.
The blight-ogre mask is leather armor.
The mask looks like it offers protection for the following areas:
right eye
left eye
You feel certain that a perfect blight-ogre mask appears to impose insignificant maneuvering hindrance and offers:
moderate protection and fair damage absorption for puncture attacks.
fair protection and fair damage absorption for slice attacks.
fair protection and fair damage absorption for impact attacks.
low protection and fair damage absorption for fire attacks.
fair protection and fair damage absorption for cold attacks.
moderate protection and fair damage absorption for electrical attacks.
The black-marbled gloves are leather armor.
The gloves look like they offer protection for the following areas:
right hand
left hand
You feel certain that some perfect black-marbled gloves appear to impose insignificant maneuvering hindrance and offers:
good protection and fair damage absorption for puncture attacks.
good protection and fair damage absorption for slice attacks.
good protection and moderate damage absorption for impact attacks.
fair protection and fair damage absorption for fire attacks.
fair protection and fair damage absorption for cold attacks.
good protection and fair damage absorption for electrical attacks.
>appr shield
You are certain that it imposes an insignificant maneuvering hinderance.
This shield is small in size.
You are certain that the shield offers rather low to high protection.(drops low-good when worn)
You are certain that it could do:
no puncture damage
no slice damage
heavy impact damage
You could try light chain shirt and helm, tanned gloves and mask and heavy chain greaves. If you are not bothered about leather, store bought balaclava, light chain shirt and gloves and heavy/light chain greaves.
Rezzian
Thank you for the advice, everyone.
So erm...who forges a good chain shirt and some heavy chain greaves?
- Terra
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The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done." -George Carlin
So erm...who forges a good chain shirt and some heavy chain greaves?
- Terra
_______
The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done." -George Carlin
Terra, you don't get a penalty for mixing light and heavy chain armors... You will if you add in leather though. There is a visored heavy chain helmet from riverhaven that works nicely. (The alternative being a forged chain helm that does not protect eyes and wearing it with a leather eye part.) I'm currently using equal parts of light and heavy chain with light being my main torso piece.
ps I'm in love with your sig!
Tabby Faye
ps I'm in love with your sig!
Tabby Faye
If you are struggling finding armor, here is what i forge, you are welcome to them for free, if you want them look me up around Rossmans or Haven.
appr my shirt careful
The full chain shirt is light chain.
The shirt looks like it offers protection for the following areas:
right arm
left arm
chest
abdomen
back
You feel certain that a full chain shirt appears to impose moderate maneuvering hindrance and offers:
good protection and good damage absorption for puncture attacks.
good protection and good damage absorption for slice attacks.
good protection and good damage absorption for impact attacks.
moderate protection and good damage absorption for fire attacks.
moderate protection and good damage absorption for cold attacks.
poor protection and good damage absorption for electrical attacks.
If you were only maneuvering in a full chain shirt you could expect to be insignificantly hindered.
You are certain that the full chain shirt is fairly sturdy, and is in pristine condition.
The full chain shirt is made with metal.
The full chain shirt is moderately flexible.
You are certain that the full chain shirt weighs exactly 272 stones.
You are certain that the full chain shirt is worth exactly 1400 lirums.
ana my shirt
The full chain shirt is a forged chain piece of armor.
It was made by someone with abilities close to your own skill.
It is in perfect condition.
It is a simple piece to make.
Obviously, this was made by an apprentice level smith.
The chain greaves are heavy chain.
The greaves look like they offer protection for the following areas:
right leg
left leg
You feel certain that some chain greaves appear to impose insignificant maneuvering hindrance and offers:
good protection and good damage absorption for puncture attacks.
moderate protection and good damage absorption for slice attacks.
good protection and good damage absorption for impact attacks.
moderate protection and moderate damage absorption for fire attacks.
moderate protection and moderate damage absorption for cold attacks.
low protection and moderate damage absorption for electrical attacks.
If you were only maneuvering in some chain greaves you could expect to be unhindered.
You are certain that the chain greaves are of average strength, and are in pristine condition.
The chain greaves are made with metal.
The chain greaves are quite supple.
You are certain that the chain greaves weighs exactly 34 stones.
You are certain that the chain greaves are worth exactly 60 lirums.
ana my gre
>
The chain greaves is a forged chain piece of armor.
It was made by someone with abilities close to your own skill.
It is in perfect condition.
It is a simple piece to make.
Obviously, this was made by an apprentice level smith.
Rezzian
appr my shirt careful
The full chain shirt is light chain.
The shirt looks like it offers protection for the following areas:
right arm
left arm
chest
abdomen
back
You feel certain that a full chain shirt appears to impose moderate maneuvering hindrance and offers:
good protection and good damage absorption for puncture attacks.
good protection and good damage absorption for slice attacks.
good protection and good damage absorption for impact attacks.
moderate protection and good damage absorption for fire attacks.
moderate protection and good damage absorption for cold attacks.
poor protection and good damage absorption for electrical attacks.
If you were only maneuvering in a full chain shirt you could expect to be insignificantly hindered.
You are certain that the full chain shirt is fairly sturdy, and is in pristine condition.
The full chain shirt is made with metal.
The full chain shirt is moderately flexible.
You are certain that the full chain shirt weighs exactly 272 stones.
You are certain that the full chain shirt is worth exactly 1400 lirums.
ana my shirt
The full chain shirt is a forged chain piece of armor.
It was made by someone with abilities close to your own skill.
It is in perfect condition.
It is a simple piece to make.
Obviously, this was made by an apprentice level smith.
The chain greaves are heavy chain.
The greaves look like they offer protection for the following areas:
right leg
left leg
You feel certain that some chain greaves appear to impose insignificant maneuvering hindrance and offers:
good protection and good damage absorption for puncture attacks.
moderate protection and good damage absorption for slice attacks.
good protection and good damage absorption for impact attacks.
moderate protection and moderate damage absorption for fire attacks.
moderate protection and moderate damage absorption for cold attacks.
low protection and moderate damage absorption for electrical attacks.
If you were only maneuvering in some chain greaves you could expect to be unhindered.
You are certain that the chain greaves are of average strength, and are in pristine condition.
The chain greaves are made with metal.
The chain greaves are quite supple.
You are certain that the chain greaves weighs exactly 34 stones.
You are certain that the chain greaves are worth exactly 60 lirums.
ana my gre
>
The chain greaves is a forged chain piece of armor.
It was made by someone with abilities close to your own skill.
It is in perfect condition.
It is a simple piece to make.
Obviously, this was made by an apprentice level smith.
Rezzian
Okay, how about the moon mage guild? I'm looking for a LC set up that will least hinder stealth the most. Hauberk/gloves/helm or shirt/greaves etc. Also, if the stealth penatly is too steep, I'm considering switching to Leather. I train Hiding/Stalking/Evasion religiously, and I haven't had much of a problem yet. I know as I progress to more difficult mobs, I'll notice it.
I liked the LC set up because of the protection it offers, mixing it with CoL would be a good form of protection in both PvE and PvP, but I don't want to negate some of the more important skills in the survival tree or be extremely less effective with them because of my armor choice.
I liked the LC set up because of the protection it offers, mixing it with CoL would be a good form of protection in both PvE and PvP, but I don't want to negate some of the more important skills in the survival tree or be extremely less effective with them because of my armor choice.
>Okay, how about the moon mage guild?
Oh, they're the worst. Even empaths have it better :/
That said, chain can be viable, especially with shadows. If you really want to focus on stealth, you might want to consider bone armor too. It is kind of weak right now because only storebought is available, but someday it might be good...
Oh, they're the worst. Even empaths have it better :/
That said, chain can be viable, especially with shadows. If you really want to focus on stealth, you might want to consider bone armor too. It is kind of weak right now because only storebought is available, but someday it might be good...
>Okay, how about the moon mage guild?
Don't plan on wearing chain and training stealth at the same time, period.
With 300+ stealth and ~100 ranks in chain wearing the standard forged LC hauberk and HC gloves/helm combo, I can barely, barely ambush something I've been hiding circles around for 80 ranks of hiding and stalking. Since Shadows doesn't boost stalking, it doesn't help much.
Bone armor sucks right now and I highly, highly doubt it will exceed leather armor enough to make it worth training in crappy armor for the years until a player creation system for it comes out.
If you want the best combination of stealth and protection, Tanned leathers + CoL is what you want.
Once I get enough hiding and stalking for 150th circle I'll try training chain a bit higher and see what the stealth hinderance looks like then, but for now it doesn't seem like an armor tert ever has a fair chance of using chain and stealth at the same time against anything they would actually need armor or hiding when facing.
~ Sage Kougen Aensworth, Star Shaper of the Compact
Ruea says in Ilithic, "At least you're very handsome. That makes the fact that you're always right far easier to live with"
Don't plan on wearing chain and training stealth at the same time, period.
With 300+ stealth and ~100 ranks in chain wearing the standard forged LC hauberk and HC gloves/helm combo, I can barely, barely ambush something I've been hiding circles around for 80 ranks of hiding and stalking. Since Shadows doesn't boost stalking, it doesn't help much.
Bone armor sucks right now and I highly, highly doubt it will exceed leather armor enough to make it worth training in crappy armor for the years until a player creation system for it comes out.
If you want the best combination of stealth and protection, Tanned leathers + CoL is what you want.
Once I get enough hiding and stalking for 150th circle I'll try training chain a bit higher and see what the stealth hinderance looks like then, but for now it doesn't seem like an armor tert ever has a fair chance of using chain and stealth at the same time against anything they would actually need armor or hiding when facing.
~ Sage Kougen Aensworth, Star Shaper of the Compact
Ruea says in Ilithic, "At least you're very handsome. That makes the fact that you're always right far easier to live with"
>>and ~100 ranks in chain wearing the standard forged LC hauberk and HC gloves/helm combo, I can barely, barely ambush something I've been hiding circles around for 80 ranks of hiding and stalking.
This is largely the issue here. Armor ranks after the change in stealth hinderance, has a huge impact on how well you hide in a given armor. Try again in another 100ish armor ranks, that seemed to help the warmie with similar issues a bunch.
This is largely the issue here. Armor ranks after the change in stealth hinderance, has a huge impact on how well you hide in a given armor. Try again in another 100ish armor ranks, that seemed to help the warmie with similar issues a bunch.
>This is largely the issue here. Armor ranks after the change in stealth hinderance, has a huge impact on how well you hide in a given armor. Try again in another 100ish armor ranks, that seemed to help the warmie with similar issues a bunch.
I'm pretty sure I said that's what I planned on doing.
The problem is that getting 200 ranks of armor as a Moon Mage is no joke, and you would be forced to choose between gimping your stealth to train it, or doubling your hunting time just to keep it up and hold yourself back on everything else. Both of these options are so unattractive that I'm putting it off until I have all the hiding and stalking I'll ever need and have nothing better to do than hunt. Most Moon Mages don't have that luxury and would be better off sticking to leather unless they already have that 200-250 ranks in chain armor. (My opinion)
~ Sage Kougen Aensworth, Star Shaper of the Compact
Ruea says in Ilithic, "At least you're very handsome. That makes the fact that you're always right far easier to live with"
I'm pretty sure I said that's what I planned on doing.
The problem is that getting 200 ranks of armor as a Moon Mage is no joke, and you would be forced to choose between gimping your stealth to train it, or doubling your hunting time just to keep it up and hold yourself back on everything else. Both of these options are so unattractive that I'm putting it off until I have all the hiding and stalking I'll ever need and have nothing better to do than hunt. Most Moon Mages don't have that luxury and would be better off sticking to leather unless they already have that 200-250 ranks in chain armor. (My opinion)
~ Sage Kougen Aensworth, Star Shaper of the Compact
Ruea says in Ilithic, "At least you're very handsome. That makes the fact that you're always right far easier to live with"
So having used both JMF, would you say a full LC setup or a full Leather setup would be better in PvE and PvP if one works hiding/stalking/evasion primarily.
Basically, I want to find, without investing a significant amount of time into training two armor sets as a moon mage what's going to be better in the long run. I want to hide dodge and stalk well but not get gibbed.
Basically, I want to find, without investing a significant amount of time into training two armor sets as a moon mage what's going to be better in the long run. I want to hide dodge and stalk well but not get gibbed.
For PvE, chain is the clear choice. For PvP it really is a tough call, because if you aren't seen, armor doesn't even matter. For what its worth, I abandoned leather at 400 ranks and switched to light chain. I've done a bunch of experimenting since then. Light chain is hard to beat for regular training, but sometimes in spars I wear cloth or no armor. I'm backtraining bone in the hopes that it gets developed and doesn't turn into something like sling (a joke, basically).
Showing Armor skills regardless of rank.
SKILL: Rank/Percent towards next rank/Amount learning
Shield Usage: 579 78% clear Leather Armor: 445 46% clear
Light Chain: 433 39% clear Heavy Chain: 340 96% very muddled
Light Plate: 265 91% clear Heavy Plate: 259 12% clear
Cloth Armor: 308 70% perplexing Bone Armor: 269 82% bewildered
Total Ranks Displayed: 2898
Showing Armor skills regardless of rank.
SKILL: Rank/Percent towards next rank/Amount learning
Shield Usage: 579 78% clear Leather Armor: 445 46% clear
Light Chain: 433 39% clear Heavy Chain: 340 96% very muddled
Light Plate: 265 91% clear Heavy Plate: 259 12% clear
Cloth Armor: 308 70% perplexing Bone Armor: 269 82% bewildered
Total Ranks Displayed: 2898
>And not because I have a million scripted ranks either.
>Light Chain: 433 39% clear Heavy Chain: 340 96% very muddled
Yes, that's exactly why. You trained off more of the penalty before it went in than most Moon Mages ever will.
>I think you're wrong Kougen.
>Armor ranks matter.
I said they matter too, so which is it?
~ Sage Kougen Aensworth, Star Shaper of the Compact
Ruea says in Ilithic, "At least you're very handsome. That makes the fact that you're always right far easier to live with"
>Light Chain: 433 39% clear Heavy Chain: 340 96% very muddled
Yes, that's exactly why. You trained off more of the penalty before it went in than most Moon Mages ever will.
>I think you're wrong Kougen.
>Armor ranks matter.
I said they matter too, so which is it?
~ Sage Kougen Aensworth, Star Shaper of the Compact
Ruea says in Ilithic, "At least you're very handsome. That makes the fact that you're always right far easier to live with"
I'm saying you're wrong that it isn't viable. And you don't have to abandon one skill to train the other. Either carry backup armor (like a cloth robe) or just train stealth without armor on, it isn't a big deal. That's what I did when I wanted to train stealth in malchata while wearing plate.
<- not a moonie, but a survival primary ranger (think they gave survival primaries a bonus to stealth with armor (except plate)).
In PvP, I noticed via some testing, a distinct difference between all leather, and leather with chain hand/head. Not that the target was seeing me, but that via snipe I couldn't touch them, they blocked every arrow, with the chain accessories on. Switch to all leather, every single arrow landed (all full aimed snipes in both tests). I found this to be interesting and baffling, since they couldn't see me either way (nothing else changed between scenarios). So either the RNG was acting weird and gave all low rolls for the first dozen, and high for the next.. or something was going on there. I think I want to play with this more.
This was with mid 500's stealth, high 400's leather, high 300's chain and mid 300's bow vs mid 300's perc, low 400's shield, low 300's evasion.
In PvP, I noticed via some testing, a distinct difference between all leather, and leather with chain hand/head. Not that the target was seeing me, but that via snipe I couldn't touch them, they blocked every arrow, with the chain accessories on. Switch to all leather, every single arrow landed (all full aimed snipes in both tests). I found this to be interesting and baffling, since they couldn't see me either way (nothing else changed between scenarios). So either the RNG was acting weird and gave all low rolls for the first dozen, and high for the next.. or something was going on there. I think I want to play with this more.
This was with mid 500's stealth, high 400's leather, high 300's chain and mid 300's bow vs mid 300's perc, low 400's shield, low 300's evasion.
Just to add, I'm a moon mage and have no problems using HC/LC/worn buckler, even at fairly hindered. My stealth is not overtrained compared to my armors (armors 190ish hiding/stalking 210ish) and I am able to train both well in the same hunting ground, using shadows.
Before 100 ranks I'd take off my body armor to hide/stalk and that worked fine except for the occasional whack in the chest.
I was wondering though, is there a way to get down to lightly hindered with an LC/HC/worn shield combo? I'm still sitting at fairly hindered with a forged hauberk (LC) and gloves(HC), riverhaven visored chain helm(HC), and tanned croc buckler.
Thanks,
Latathi
Before 100 ranks I'd take off my body armor to hide/stalk and that worked fine except for the occasional whack in the chest.
I was wondering though, is there a way to get down to lightly hindered with an LC/HC/worn shield combo? I'm still sitting at fairly hindered with a forged hauberk (LC) and gloves(HC), riverhaven visored chain helm(HC), and tanned croc buckler.
Thanks,
Latathi
>I was wondering though, is there a way to get down to lightly hindered with an LC/HC/worn shield combo? I'm still sitting at fairly hindered with a forged hauberk (LC) and gloves(HC), riverhaven visored chain helm(HC), and tanned croc buckler.
I'm not sure how far down it would drop you, but you can go with LC shirt, HC or LC greaves, and a tanned small shield. The shields have a bit less hinderance than the bucklers, and the shirt + greaves has a bit less hinderance than the hauberk. You could also try a forged HC helm with a leather mask.
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Satfiki wipes a bit of Rmel's spittle from her arm.
I'm not sure how far down it would drop you, but you can go with LC shirt, HC or LC greaves, and a tanned small shield. The shields have a bit less hinderance than the bucklers, and the shirt + greaves has a bit less hinderance than the hauberk. You could also try a forged HC helm with a leather mask.
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Satfiki wipes a bit of Rmel's spittle from her arm.
But considering all the armor and shields you are wearing or carrying, you are currently lightly hindered.
That's with a worn garg shield and full forged LC for min weight and hinderance (And a Shard balaclava). No rare metals though. I don't mix in other armor types, but... I doubt you're gonna mix without stepping up a level.
-- Mozzik, the Fateweaver
Caelumia says, "I love the tools even more."
That's with a worn garg shield and full forged LC for min weight and hinderance (And a Shard balaclava). No rare metals though. I don't mix in other armor types, but... I doubt you're gonna mix without stepping up a level.
-- Mozzik, the Fateweaver
Caelumia says, "I love the tools even more."
