Looking for a LE on 02/28/2006 12:18 PM CST
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I'm looking for a balanced LE with decent amount of slice in it.Anything like that available without using special metals?


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Re: Looking for a LE on 02/28/2006 12:20 PM CST
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Get a forged short sword/katar or a Fest katar. You should be able to find moderate slice LEs relatively easy in the Trader tent in Crossing. They hit like a train as far as LEs go. Very, very nice.

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Re: Looking for a LE on 02/28/2006 12:42 PM CST
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Correct me if I'm wrong but mod slice katars aren't very well balanced. Aren't they dismally balanced?


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Re: Looking for a LE on 02/28/2006 12:52 PM CST
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I like my jambiya. If you're a thief, it also makes an excellent backstab weapon.




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Re: Looking for a LE on 02/28/2006 01:32 PM CST
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I have found that to be that case..Thats why I curious to know if a LE ,preferably a katar , can be made fair balance,fair slice and fairly suited for strength or any combo that gives a fair amount of balance,strength and slice.


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Re: Looking for a LE on 02/28/2006 01:34 PM CST
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I've no idea about forged weapons, but the best store-bought LE you're going to get that's not terribly balanced is fair slice.

There are the obens from Shard and Muspari (low/fair/poor reasonably/poor fairly sturdy 18 stones). 4510d and 6000l respectively.
The kythe from Knife Clan (poor/fair/poor reasonably/poor fairly sturdy 18 stones). 1500k.
The leaf-bladed sword from Riverhaven (fair/fair/poor fair/poor average 28 stones). 1140l.

After I got totally ripped apart while using my mod slice Outcast katar due to the dismal balance, I switched to an oben. Doesn't do the mind-blowing damage, but I can at least parry with it.





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Re: Looking for a LE on 03/01/2006 12:59 AM CST
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>>Get a forged short sword/katar or a Fest katar. You should be able to find moderate slice LEs relatively easy in the Trader tent in Crossing. They hit like a train as far as LEs go. Very, very nice.<<

None of those are what he asked for. Katars have bad balance, short swords aren't slicers.

If you're looking for it for the reasons I would assume you are. What you want is one of two things. The elven telo from shard. Well balanced, fair slice, but it's a ME (although, weapon skill isn't checked, so ME's work as well as anything.) Or the outcast dagger from the shard fest. Well balanced/fair slice. And of course, mirror blades in the right hands would be awesome, but again... ME).

Outcast Dagger. F/F/P W/P fairly sturdy.

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Re: Looking for a LE on 03/01/2006 07:34 AM CST
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't those dark talon blades do more slice than puncture? And weren't they at least fairly balanced?


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Re: Looking for a LE on 03/01/2006 09:31 AM CST
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<<If you're looking for it for the reasons I would assume you are. What you want is one of two things. The elven telo from shard. Well balanced, fair slice, but it's a ME (although, weapon skill isn't checked, so ME's work as well as anything.) Or the outcast dagger from the shard fest. Well balanced/fair slice. And of course, mirror blades in the right hands would be awesome, but again... ME).

If he was looking for it for that reason, he'd want puncture, not slice.

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Re: Looking for a LE on 03/01/2006 10:12 AM CST
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>>If he was looking for it for that reason, he'd want puncture, not slice.

Actually, there's three different reasons; puncture, slice, and impact all of varying importance for each 'reason'.

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Re: Looking for a LE on 03/01/2006 10:57 AM CST
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<<Actually, there's three different reasons; puncture, slice, and impact all of varying importance for each 'reason'.

Yes, and if I read Wighten's interpretation right (which maybe not, cause the man knows his guild's stuff), then for that reason (backstab) he would want puncture and balance. Not slice and balance. If he wants slice he probably wants to use it for general combat.

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Re: Looking for a LE on 03/01/2006 11:18 AM CST
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>>Yes, and if I read Wighten's interpretation right (which maybe not, cause the man knows his guild's stuff), <<

You didn't

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Re: Looking for a LE on 03/01/2006 11:35 AM CST
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>>If he wants slice he probably wants to use it for general combat.

Thieves are crafty buggers... they'll surprise you with the different ways they can make your life terrible from the shadows ;)

Ristyl
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Re: Looking for a LE on 03/01/2006 01:28 PM CST
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Use a jambiya. It appraises better than a talon blade which is just a fancy leaf-blade sword and the jambiya defaults to slicing attacks.




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Re: Looking for a LE on 03/02/2006 12:38 PM CST
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Just to clarify my questioon a bit..I am looking for a katar-like weapon that is fairly balanced and fairly suited for strength with fair to moderate slice.The question is whether or not its possible for such a blade to be forged and if so can it be forged without special metals?

PS Could you post the appraisal on the jambiya?

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Re: Looking for a LE on 03/02/2006 12:50 PM CST
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<<The question is whether or not its possible for such a blade to be forged and if so can it be forged without special metals?>>

no not possible.


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Re: Looking for a LE on 03/02/2006 11:00 PM CST
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An ivory-hilted jambiya is a light edged melee-ranged weapon.

You are certain that it could do:
fair puncture damage
fair slice damage
poor impact damage

You are certain that the jambiya is reasonably balanced and is fairly suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.

You are certain that the ivory-hilted jambiya is fairly sturdy, and is in pristine condition.

The ivory-hilted jambiya is made with metal.
You wonder if the ivory-hilted jambiya might weigh a few stones.
You are certain that the ivory-hilted jambiya is worth exactly 500 kronars.
Roundtime: 8 seconds.

A dark talon blade is a light edged type weapon.

You are certain that it could do:
fair puncture damage
fair slice damage
poor impact damage

You are certain that the blade is fairly balanced and is poorly suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.

You are certain that the talon blade is fairly sturdy, and is in pristine condition.

The talon blade is made with metal.
You wonder if the talon blade might weigh a few tens of stones.
You are certain that the talon blade is worth exactly 90200 dokoras




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Re: Looking for a LE on 03/03/2006 01:13 AM CST
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Yeah. As far as LEs go, those monster jambiyas are amazing. I wish they'd roll in more critters like that.

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Re: Looking for a LE on 03/03/2006 02:22 AM CST
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I think they're useful to Thieves because of the different manuevers they can do. But I don't know why other guilds use them. The loss of impact from the katar makes them not nearly as effective. I mean... they're decent I guess. I would like them a lot more if they were F/F/L actually. Poor is just too low.

-Wighten
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Re: Looking for a LE on 03/06/2006 02:15 AM CST
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>I think they're useful to Thieves because of the different manuevers they can do. But I don't know why other guilds use them. The loss of impact from the katar makes them not nearly as effective. I mean... they're decent I guess. I would like them a lot more if they were F/F/L actually. Poor is just too low.

Its because of the balance. I have an old katar with poor balance and have a hard time hitting some things, especially if they can parry. I dont hit as hard with a jambiya but after using feint/draw/slice/chop/parry for balance I can use feint/lunge/slice etc. and usually get a stun if I timed it right. It adds to the jambiya's versatility.





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Re: Looking for a LE on 03/06/2006 02:24 AM CST
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But if you want to use an LE with balance, you need to just use the outcast dagger. At F/F/P W/P FS... it's just a more balanced jambiya.

-Wighten
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Re: Looking for a LE on 03/06/2006 02:28 AM CST
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>But if you want to use an LE with balance, you need to just use the outcast dagger. At F/F/P W/P FS... it's just a more balanced jambiya.

I dont need that much balance and the poorly suited for strength is not worth the tradeoff.




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Re: Looking for a LE on 07/12/2006 11:16 PM CDT
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I know this is 4 monthish late, but have ya ever tried the 'ulu'? I hear its a wicked slicer. Not sure if thats correct spelling either, sorry

Robo



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