Is there an ME weapon, non forged, prefreably able to get in a shop meaning non fest, that has an app the following or better on puncture and slice? Looking for something I can backstab the backstable things with and ambush the other things with without swapping weapons. Hunting in lang peccs/trolls in case you are wondering why.


You are certain that it could do:
moderate puncture damage
moderate slice damage
low impact damage

You are certain that the scimitar is fairly balanced and is fairly suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.

Can't backstab, rather.

Also, it's Reasonably balanced and the Moderate puncture is near Heavy

Don't recall anything close to what you want. Is that a real weapon? Where's it from?

Might be possible with Special metals, though. A scimitar, grind it for puncture..

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It's regretful that the most common type of person in this world is someone small, in a big chair.

Concur with Kleis.

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It's regretful that the most common type of person in this world is someone small, in a big chair.

Moderate Moderate?

No.

Moderate puncture, low slice. Can get heavy puncture maybe? With special metals? I doubt it, would be a waste of kertig/glaes. Get a backstabbing great-puncture Sabre instead.

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It's regretful that the most common type of person in this world is someone small, in a big chair.

Leaf blade sword and jambiya are both LE with fair slice and puncture. The sword is slightly higher in puncture while the jambiya is a bit higher in slice.

Kleis

A silver-etched yataghan with a carved bone hilt is a medium edged melee-ranged weapon.


The yataghan is ill suited, but usable, for backstabbing.

You are certain that it could do:
moderate puncture damage
low slice damage
low impact damage

You are certain that the yataghan is fairly balanced and is fairly suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.

You are certain that the yataghan is moderately strong, and is in pristine condition.

The yataghan is made with metal.
The yataghan feels pretty light.
You are certain that the yataghan is worth exactly 6250 lirums.
Roundtime: 16 seconds.
>l yat
Etched silver dragons stalk down the length of the doubly-curved blade. The guardless hilt has been carved with a dragon coiled around a ruby.

From Muspari. One of the best store bought ME's out there for backstabing. Hope that helps some.

~Dalkin~


If its got two legs and you hear a thud...don't panic...I just killed another one.


>>>>Agonar, apparently taking an uncharacteristic trip to the north, strolls by, winks at Marlena, giggles oddly to himself, and continues his journey onward.

>>and I'm not sure if jabbers are 'good' anymore, since I never used them, and have heard they're weak now.

not true there at all. It all depends on the weapon. I can kill a viper with my leaf-blade sword and Jambiya and with my Yataghan pretty quick. They aren't weak at all if you ask me. Here, I'll post a showing of it real quick and my ranks to prove the point.

>>Yataghan: 153 ranks in ME 30 agility/30 reflex

You close to melee range on a giant thicket viper.

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A giant thicket viper hisses and spits a stream of venom at your face with speed and accuracy landing a good strike to your leather mask and some poison still splatters into your left eye!
You suddenly feel sick!
Roundtime: 3 seconds.
[You're slightly off balance and opponent has slight advantage.]

>parry

You move into a position to parry.
[You're off balance with opponent in better position.]
Roundtime: 3 sec.

>feint
...wait 3 seconds.

>feint
< You feint a silver-etched yataghan with a carved bone hilt at a giant thicket viper. A giant thicket viper evades.
[You're solidly balanced with no advantage.]
[Roundtime 1 sec.]

>draw

< You step backward and then jab at a giant thicket viper. A giant thicket viper attempts to dodge. The yataghan lands a solid hit to the viper's left arm.
[You're nimbly balanced and in good position.]
[Roundtime 2 sec.]

>lunge

>
< You lunge a silver-etched yataghan with a carved bone hilt at a giant thicket viper. A giant thicket viper attempts to evade. The yataghan lands a hard hit that barely punctures the skin on the upper chest causing a slight welt.
[You're slightly off balance and opponent has slight advantage.]
[Roundtime 4 sec.]

>

* A giant thicket viper coils up and strikes suddenly at you. You counter most of the fangs with a silver-etched yataghan with a carved bone hilt. The fangs lands a glancing blow to your left arm.
[You're slightly off balance with opponent in very strong position.]

>
* A giant thicket viper coils up and strikes suddenly at you. You knock aside most of the fangs with a silver-etched yataghan with a carved bone hilt. The fangs lands a light hit to your right leg.
[You're bruised, slightly off balance with opponent dominating.]

>thrust

< You thrust a silver-etched yataghan with a carved bone hilt at a giant thicket viper. A giant thicket viper fails to evade. The yataghan lands a solid hit to the viper's right hand.
[You're bruised, nimbly balanced with opponent in very strong position.]
[Roundtime 2 sec.]

>

* A giant thicket viper coils up and strikes at you. You repulse the fangs with a silver-etched yataghan with a carved bone hilt.
[You're bruised, nimbly balanced with opponent in very strong position.]

>jab

< You jab a silver-etched yataghan with a carved bone hilt at a giant thicket viper. A giant thicket viper attempts to dodge. The yataghan lands a good strike to the viper's back.
[You're bruised, nimbly balanced with opponent in better position.]
[Roundtime 1 sec.]

>parry

You move into a position to parry.
[You're bruised, incredibly balanced and opponent has slight advantage.]
Roundtime: 4 sec.

>

A giant thicket viper hisses and spits a stream of venom at your face, but you scramble clear of the deadly spray!
[You're bruised, incredibly balanced and in good position.]

>

Your vision blurs slightly as a hot wave sweeps across your body. A thick sweat, which reeks of corruption, pours from your skin and leaves you gasping for breath. The feeling quickly passes, leaving you exhausted but strangely relieved.

>
Your vision blurs slightly as a hot wave sweeps across your body. A thick sweat, which reeks of corruption, pours from your skin and leaves you gasping for breath. The feeling quickly passes, leaving you exhausted but strangely relieved.

>feint

< You feint a silver-etched yataghan with a carved bone hilt at a giant thicket viper. A giant thicket viper attempts to evade. The yataghan lands a light hit to the viper's left leg.
[You're winded, bruised, incredibly balanced and in very strong position.]
[Roundtime 1 sec.]

>draw

< You step backward and then jab at a giant thicket viper. A giant thicket viper fails to dodge. The yataghan lands a heavy strike that etches a light cut into the right side of the chest, barely stunning it.
[You're winded, bruised, incredibly balanced and overwhelming opponent.]
[Roundtime 2 sec.]

>lunge

< You lunge a silver-etched yataghan with a carved bone hilt at a giant thicket viper. A giant thicket viper fails to evade. The yataghan lands a massive strike that punctures deeply into one side of the viper's stomach and out the other, severely stunning it.
[You're winded, bruised, nimbly balanced and overwhelming opponent.]
[Roundtime 4 sec.]

>thrust

< You thrust a silver-etched yataghan with a carved bone hilt at a giant thicket viper. A giant thicket viper fails to evade. The yataghan lands a massive strike that jams deep into the flesh, damaging muscle and bone.
A giant thicket viper rises up threateningly one last time before collapsing.
[You're incredibly balanced]
[Roundtime 2 sec.]

>skin

You struggle with the viper and manage to remove the viper sac. Blood soaks into it badly though, nearly ruining it.

>l vip

You see a giant thicket viper (dead).
The thicket viper has a badly swollen and deeply bruised upper left body with odd bumps under the skin compounded by a broken upper left body with gaping holes, faint scuffing to the lower body, tiny scratches to the upper body, minor swelling and bruising in the upper belly area compounded by cuts and bruises about the upper belly, a severely swollen and deeply bruised back with odd protrusions under the skin compounded by gaping holes in the back.
It is wearing nothing!
It is carrying nothing!


>bun

You stuff your sac into the bundle.

>>Jambiya: LE: 138 ranks same stats 30 agility/30 reflex

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The thicket viper begins to advance on you!
The thicket viper is still a distance away from you and is closing steadily.
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>
You close to pole weapon range on a giant thicket viper.

You stop a giant thicket viper from advancing any farther.

>
You close to melee range on a giant thicket viper.

>feint

< You feint a darkened jambiya set with a sinuous yellow sapphire panther on the hilt at a giant thicket viper. A giant thicket viper fails to dodge. The jambiya lands a glancing blow to the viper's abdomen.
[You're nimbly balanced and in better position.]
[Roundtime 1 sec.]

>draw

< You step backward and then slice at a giant thicket viper. A giant thicket viper attempts to dodge. The jambiya lands a good strike to the viper's chest.
[You're nimbly balanced and in strong position.]
[Roundtime 1 sec.]

>

* A giant thicket viper hisses and opens its mouth, exposing poison dripping from its fangs as it strikes at you. You slap away the fangs with a darkened jambiya set with a sinuous yellow sapphire panther on the hilt.
[You're nimbly balanced and in better position.]

>

>


>lunge

< You lunge a darkened jambiya set with a sinuous yellow sapphire panther on the hilt at a giant thicket viper. A giant thicket viper fails to evade. The jambiya lands a hard hit that barely punctures the skin on the upper chest causing a slight welt.
[You're solidly balanced and opponent has slight advantage.]
[Roundtime 3 sec.]


>thrust

< You thrust a darkened jambiya set with a sinuous yellow sapphire panther on the hilt at a giant thicket viper. A giant thicket viper attempts to dodge. The jambiya lands a good hit to the viper's left leg.
[You're winded, nimbly balanced and in better position.]
[Roundtime 2 sec.]
>
>jab

< You jab a darkened jambiya set with a sinuous yellow sapphire panther on the hilt at a giant thicket viper. A giant thicket viper attempts to evade. The jambiya lands a good strike to the viper's right arm.
[You're nimbly balanced and in strong position.]
[Roundtime 1 sec.]
>

>
* A giant thicket viper coils up and strikes suddenly at you. You deflect the fangs with a darkened jambiya set with a sinuous yellow sapphire panther on the hilt.
[You're nimbly balanced and in good position.]
>parry
You move into a position to parry.
[You're incredibly balanced and in superior position.]
Roundtime: 3 sec.

>feint
...wait 1 seconds.

>
* A giant thicket viper hisses and opens its mouth, exposing poison dripping from its fangs as it strikes at you. You evade.
[You're incredibly balanced and in strong position.]
>feint

>
< You feint a darkened jambiya set with a sinuous yellow sapphire panther on the hilt at a giant thicket viper. A giant thicket viper fails to evade. The jambiya lands a glancing strike to the viper's right leg.
[You're incredibly balanced and in superior position.]
[Roundtime 1 sec.]

>draw

< You step backward and then slice at a giant thicket viper. A giant thicket viper attempts to dodge. The jambiya lands a hard hit that flicks off a few scales.
[You're incredibly balanced and in dominating position.]
[Roundtime 1 sec.]

>lunge

< You lunge a darkened jambiya set with a sinuous yellow sapphire panther on the hilt at a giant thicket viper. A giant thicket viper fails to dodge. The jambiya lands a heavy strike that sticks deeply into the flesh.
[You're incredibly balanced and in superior position.]
[Roundtime 3 sec.]

>
* A giant thicket viper coils up and strikes at you. You deflect most of the fangs with a darkened jambiya set with a sinuous yellow sapphire panther on the hilt. The fangs lands a grazing blow to your left leg.
[You're incredibly balanced and in superior position.]

>thrust
...wait 1 seconds.

>thrust

< You thrust a darkened jambiya set with a sinuous yellow sapphire panther on the hilt at a giant thicket viper. A giant thicket viper attempts to evade. The jambiya lands a hard hit that punches a hole through the skin on its side, lightly stunning it.
[You're winded, incredibly balanced and overwhelming opponent.]
[Roundtime 2 sec.]


>jab

< You jab a darkened jambiya set with a sinuous yellow sapphire panther on the hilt at a giant thicket viper. A giant thicket viper fails to evade. The jambiya lands a solid hit that sticks deeply into the flesh, causing fresh blood to ooze out.
[You're winded, incredibly balanced and overwhelming opponent.]
[Roundtime 1 sec.]

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* A giant thicket viper coils up and strikes at you. You dodge.
[You're incredibly balanced and overwhelming your opponent.]

>

>

>parry
You move into a position to parry.
[You're incredibly balanced and overwhelming opponent.]
Roundtime: 4 sec.

>
* A giant thicket viper coils up and strikes suddenly at you. You dodge.
[You're incredibly balanced and overwhelming your opponent.]

>feint
...wait 1 seconds.

>

>feint
< You feint a darkened jambiya set with a sinuous yellow sapphire panther on the hilt at a giant thicket viper. A giant thicket viper fails to dodge. The jambiya lands a harmless blow to the viper's left arm.
[You're incredibly balanced and overwhelming opponent.]
[Roundtime 1 sec.]

>draw

< You step backward and then slice at a giant thicket viper. A giant thicket viper fails to evade. The jambiya lands a very heavy hit that explodes the heart and lungs with a bone-shattering blow to the chest.
A giant thicket viper slaps around a few times and then grows still.
[You're incredibly balanced]
[Roundtime 1 sec.]

So as you see, both are still good from my point of view. Some might agree, some might not. But LE is still a good weapon, jabbers are still good weapons overall. Now LT got whacked, I won't talk about LT...::chortles::

~Dalkin~
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If its got two legs and you hear a thud...don't panic...I just killed another one.


>>>>Agonar, apparently taking an uncharacteristic trip to the north, strolls by, winks at Marlena, giggles oddly to himself, and continues his journey onward.

But lunge and thrust carry significant defensive penalties, no?

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There will be options to pick from. There will rarely be a case where the NPC says, "Here is your sword, go have fun."
-Ssra

<<But lunge and thrust carry significant defensive penalties, no?>>

lunge yes, thrust not really

just use "feint lunge" the combo equivalent of lunge with out the defensive drop (or the attack power)

so feint, feint lunge, thrust, jab, dodge; makes a good jabber combo

Yamcer

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"You know, while I understand the importance of seeing the (personal) validity in other's arguments, it's impossible for me to believe fully that others are correct. If their argument was correct, I'd change mine." - My GF

Still prefer my iltesh.
dodge feint draw sweep slice chop lunge thrust jab pummel repeat


-Xelten Tyrsin