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I've never really used a puncture weapon, what's gonna be my best combo w/ a sabre?
Axillus - Halfling Warrior Mage
If I knew the way I would take you home
parry/dodge, feint, draw, sweep, lunge, thrust, jab [pummel|slam]
if you havn't got alot of stamina, don't use lunge at first, as it takes the most effort to use and has the largest defensive penalty if you miss (if i'm wrong on that then i'm sure a hundred others will correct that), but going right to thrust in that case will still keep you pretty well balanced.
Blackguard Danoryiel Shadowsboon of House Shadowsboon
if you havn't got alot of stamina, don't use lunge at first, as it takes the most effort to use and has the largest defensive penalty if you miss (if i'm wrong on that then i'm sure a hundred others will correct that), but going right to thrust in that case will still keep you pretty well balanced.
Blackguard Danoryiel Shadowsboon of House Shadowsboon
For dancing, I dont suggest lunge. Also, if anything is at the bleeding edge of your defenses, lunge might be a bad idea. That said though, if your not scripting your attacks, a nifty thing to do is to dodge/feint/draw/sweep and then wait until your attacked, and then immediately lunge>thrust. While thrust also has a large defense penalty, its not as bad as lunge.
If you havnt used a puncture weapon before, you'll grow to love them. The move by move damage isnt as high as a slice or a basher, but the consolidated damage in the last three maneuvers (lunge/thrust/jab) is delicious:)
Farewell, remorse: all good to me is lost; Evil, be thou my good.
~Paradise Lost (bk. IX, l. 171)
If you havnt used a puncture weapon before, you'll grow to love them. The move by move damage isnt as high as a slice or a basher, but the consolidated damage in the last three maneuvers (lunge/thrust/jab) is delicious:)
Farewell, remorse: all good to me is lost; Evil, be thou my good.
~Paradise Lost (bk. IX, l. 171)
<<I've never really used a puncture weapon, what's gonna be my best combo w/ a sabre?>>
hide, stalk, backstab, jab, dodge
Yamcer
"You know, while I understand the importance of seeing the (personal) validity in other's arguments, it's impossible for me to believe fully that others are correct. If their argument was correct, I'd change mine." - My GF
hide, stalk, backstab, jab, dodge
Yamcer
"You know, while I understand the importance of seeing the (personal) validity in other's arguments, it's impossible for me to believe fully that others are correct. If their argument was correct, I'd change mine." - My GF
>>Theres always re rolling.
Yeah, but all the Thieves ever do is complain about not being mages, instead of re-rolling into a real guild. ::shrug::
~Kyn (Kynevon)
Info Page http://kynevon.info
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Armor Info: http://tinyurl.com/2h5jcp
Yeah, but all the Thieves ever do is complain about not being mages, instead of re-rolling into a real guild. ::shrug::
~Kyn (Kynevon)
Info Page http://kynevon.info
Grimoire of Echoes: http://tinyurl.com/2ac987
Hunting Info: http://tinyurl.com/44jlt
Armor Info: http://tinyurl.com/2h5jcp
>If he's a WM, then he's not a Thief. If he's not a Thief, he shouldn't be wasting time with a puncture-oriented weapon.
Thing is, I was given a forged sabre and it's the best weapon I could hope to have right now, so I don't have a huge choice if I want to use a forged weapon, this is it.
Axillus - Halfling Warrior Mage
If I knew the way I would take you home
Thing is, I was given a forged sabre and it's the best weapon I could hope to have right now, so I don't have a huge choice if I want to use a forged weapon, this is it.
Axillus - Halfling Warrior Mage
If I knew the way I would take you home
>> Fuquois >> If he's a WM, then he's not a Thief. If he's not a Thief, he shouldn't be wasting time with a puncture-oriented weapon.
Wrong.
Here's the combo you want to use.
parry / feint / LUNGE (or feint lunge) / thrust / jab
Only use the actual lunge if you are overwhelming your opponent and know you can strike a killing blow, otherwise use feint lunge to not hurt yourself in mid-combo.
This is the weapon you should strive for.
A notched sabre with a bloodstained leather hilt is a medium edged melee-ranged weapon.
You are certain that it could do:
great puncture damage
low slice damage
poor impact damage
You are certain that the sabre is well balanced and is fairly suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
You are certain that the notched sabre is moderately strong, and is in pristine condition.
The notched sabre is made with metal.
The notched sabre feels pretty light.
You are certain that the notched sabre is worth exactly 520 lirums.
Roundtime: 8 seconds.
Heavily nicked down the long slender blade, this sabre appears to have seen countless battles. Scuffed and torn white leather wraps the hilt, with a few tendrils of bloodstained leather trailing from the simple metal pommel.
Yes, its an altered glaes sabre. Yes it absolutely destroys everything it touches. No, puncture weapons are not crap nor are they a bad choice for hunting or CvC especially if you're fighting someone who likes to retreat a lot.
-Galren Moonskin
Messenger Boy: The Thessalonian you're fighting... he's the biggest man I've ever seen. I wouldn't want to fight him.
Achilles: Thats why no-one will remember your name.
Wrong.
Here's the combo you want to use.
parry / feint / LUNGE (or feint lunge) / thrust / jab
Only use the actual lunge if you are overwhelming your opponent and know you can strike a killing blow, otherwise use feint lunge to not hurt yourself in mid-combo.
This is the weapon you should strive for.
A notched sabre with a bloodstained leather hilt is a medium edged melee-ranged weapon.
You are certain that it could do:
great puncture damage
low slice damage
poor impact damage
You are certain that the sabre is well balanced and is fairly suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
You are certain that the notched sabre is moderately strong, and is in pristine condition.
The notched sabre is made with metal.
The notched sabre feels pretty light.
You are certain that the notched sabre is worth exactly 520 lirums.
Roundtime: 8 seconds.
Heavily nicked down the long slender blade, this sabre appears to have seen countless battles. Scuffed and torn white leather wraps the hilt, with a few tendrils of bloodstained leather trailing from the simple metal pommel.
Yes, its an altered glaes sabre. Yes it absolutely destroys everything it touches. No, puncture weapons are not crap nor are they a bad choice for hunting or CvC especially if you're fighting someone who likes to retreat a lot.
-Galren Moonskin
Messenger Boy: The Thessalonian you're fighting... he's the biggest man I've ever seen. I wouldn't want to fight him.
Achilles: Thats why no-one will remember your name.
<<Thing is, I was given a forged sabre and it's the best weapon I could hope to have right now, so I don't have a huge choice if I want to use a forged weapon, this is it.>>
thing is you can still use other weapons. Forged weapons give a nice push, but they aren't necessary. I prefer my moderate puncture saber with mod construction over my heavy puncture saber with fairly sturdy construction... not fun having a weapon get demolished while hunting.
Yamcer
"You know, while I understand the importance of seeing the (personal) validity in other's arguments, it's impossible for me to believe fully that others are correct. If their argument was correct, I'd change mine." - My GF
thing is you can still use other weapons. Forged weapons give a nice push, but they aren't necessary. I prefer my moderate puncture saber with mod construction over my heavy puncture saber with fairly sturdy construction... not fun having a weapon get demolished while hunting.
Yamcer
"You know, while I understand the importance of seeing the (personal) validity in other's arguments, it's impossible for me to believe fully that others are correct. If their argument was correct, I'd change mine." - My GF
>thing is you can still use other weapons. Forged weapons give a nice push, but they aren't necessary. I prefer my moderate puncture saber with mod construction over my heavy puncture saber with fairly sturdy construction... not fun having a weapon get demolished while hunting.
doesn't really happen in reavers
Axillus - Halfling Warrior Mage
If I knew the way I would take you home
doesn't really happen in reavers
Axillus - Halfling Warrior Mage
If I knew the way I would take you home
>Yes, its an altered glaes sabre. Yes it absolutely destroys everything it touches.
A minute percentage of the player base has access to weapons forged with special metals. If that was not the case, I would still take a glaes scimitar forged to great slice over a glaes sabre forged to great puncture.
>No, puncture weapons are not crap nor are they a bad choice for hunting or CvC especially if you're fighting someone who likes to retreat a lot.
Mainly I was teasing, though I do generally feel that puncture weapons are a waste of time. The only time I use my cinquedea is when I can't seem to get through someone's parry. Jabbing, thrusting, and lunging seems to be better for that than slicing and chopping.
My own combo for thrusting is thus:
parry, feint, draw, thrust, jab, dodge, lunge, slice, thrust, jab, repeat. I only use slice in there because my cinqueadea has fair slice damage along with the heavy puncture. I say puncture weapons are not worth the time because anything smaller than a cinquedea (which is Heavy Edged) will have less of an edge, barring an iltesh. In fact, that is the weapon I would suggest you go for.
Would your benefactor be upset if you sold your forged weapon in order to get an iltesh (that is, if you're unable to afford an iltesh offhand)?
Fuquois
A minute percentage of the player base has access to weapons forged with special metals. If that was not the case, I would still take a glaes scimitar forged to great slice over a glaes sabre forged to great puncture.
>No, puncture weapons are not crap nor are they a bad choice for hunting or CvC especially if you're fighting someone who likes to retreat a lot.
Mainly I was teasing, though I do generally feel that puncture weapons are a waste of time. The only time I use my cinquedea is when I can't seem to get through someone's parry. Jabbing, thrusting, and lunging seems to be better for that than slicing and chopping.
My own combo for thrusting is thus:
parry, feint, draw, thrust, jab, dodge, lunge, slice, thrust, jab, repeat. I only use slice in there because my cinqueadea has fair slice damage along with the heavy puncture. I say puncture weapons are not worth the time because anything smaller than a cinquedea (which is Heavy Edged) will have less of an edge, barring an iltesh. In fact, that is the weapon I would suggest you go for.
Would your benefactor be upset if you sold your forged weapon in order to get an iltesh (that is, if you're unable to afford an iltesh offhand)?
Fuquois
>You don't think getting a forged scimitar would be better than an iltesh?
I do think that, but I thought you said you couldn't afford a forged weapon (though I guess you might be able to trade the forged sabre for a forged scimitar if you found someone willing).
A forged scimitar will likely be lighter with better edge than an iltesh (which I think is mod/mod/low reasonable/fair and fairly sturdy at 35 stones).
Fuquois
I do think that, but I thought you said you couldn't afford a forged weapon (though I guess you might be able to trade the forged sabre for a forged scimitar if you found someone willing).
A forged scimitar will likely be lighter with better edge than an iltesh (which I think is mod/mod/low reasonable/fair and fairly sturdy at 35 stones).
Fuquois
>> Fuquois >> If he's a WM, then he's not a Thief. If he's not a Thief, he shouldn't be wasting time with a puncture-oriented weapon.
>>Wrong.
Sorry, I'm a little late to the conversation.
Fully in agreement. I spent my entire DR life using slicers, and then realized (for some reason it took me years) that generally stabbers have significantly more balance than slicers. Granted I use LE and there are virtually zero LE slicers with a remotely decent edge than have any semblance of balance, so the comparison to ME weapons is not 100% logical, but still valid I think. I would never switch back to slicers, simply due to the balance that stabbers hold over slicers.
As far as the defensive penalties, I'm still figuring out the right combinations to use but I really only notice I get hit more often after LUNGE. On that note, Galren, if I see you around Rossman's in the near future I'd like to pick your brain a little bit regarding combinations.
Mizorhath
>>Wrong.
Sorry, I'm a little late to the conversation.
Fully in agreement. I spent my entire DR life using slicers, and then realized (for some reason it took me years) that generally stabbers have significantly more balance than slicers. Granted I use LE and there are virtually zero LE slicers with a remotely decent edge than have any semblance of balance, so the comparison to ME weapons is not 100% logical, but still valid I think. I would never switch back to slicers, simply due to the balance that stabbers hold over slicers.
As far as the defensive penalties, I'm still figuring out the right combinations to use but I really only notice I get hit more often after LUNGE. On that note, Galren, if I see you around Rossman's in the near future I'd like to pick your brain a little bit regarding combinations.
Mizorhath
