Has anything been said addressing the fact that tanned small shields currently match the best medium shields but with lower hindrance? Any info on how this is changing in 3.0?
Forged shields and 3.0 on 10/02/2011 03:57 PM CDT
Re: Forged shields and 3.0 on 10/02/2011 05:15 PM CDT
>Has anything been said addressing the fact that tanned small shields currently match the best medium shields but with lower hindrance? Any info on how this is changing in 3.0?
GM Kodius said:
"To be perfectly honest, tanned shields are beyond broken as the designer used a small shield template for what should have been medium shields at various points... until C3.0 I'm hesitant to improve upon that too much just yet... We'll see how it goes. If folks absolutely can't stand where small/medium shields are going, we can re-evaluate it."
http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/Post:Shield_crafting_-_07/18/2011_-_05:28
Hunta Talna Kortok, built by Gor'Togs, for Gor'Togs
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg2/caraamon/home.html
Weapons for Sale:
http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/User:Caraamon#Wares
Combat Balance List:
http://tinyurl.com/DRBalance
GM Kodius said:
"To be perfectly honest, tanned shields are beyond broken as the designer used a small shield template for what should have been medium shields at various points... until C3.0 I'm hesitant to improve upon that too much just yet... We'll see how it goes. If folks absolutely can't stand where small/medium shields are going, we can re-evaluate it."
http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/Post:Shield_crafting_-_07/18/2011_-_05:28
Hunta Talna Kortok, built by Gor'Togs, for Gor'Togs
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg2/caraamon/home.html
Weapons for Sale:
http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/User:Caraamon#Wares
Combat Balance List:
http://tinyurl.com/DRBalance
Re: Forged shields and 3.0 on 10/02/2011 05:16 PM CDT
>Has anything been said addressing the fact that tanned small shields currently match the best medium shields but with lower hindrance? Any info on how this is changing in 3.0?
GM Kodius said:
"To be perfectly honest, tanned shields are beyond broken as the designer used a small shield template for what should have been medium shields at various points... until C3.0 I'm hesitant to improve upon that too much just yet... We'll see how it goes. If folks absolutely can't stand where small/medium shields are going, we can re-evaluate it."
http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/Post:Shield_crafting_-_07/18/2011_-_05:28
Hunta Talna Kortok, built by Gor'Togs, for Gor'Togs
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg2/caraamon/home.html
Weapons for Sale:
http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/User:Caraamon#Wares
Combat Balance List:
http://tinyurl.com/DRBalance
GM Kodius said:
"To be perfectly honest, tanned shields are beyond broken as the designer used a small shield template for what should have been medium shields at various points... until C3.0 I'm hesitant to improve upon that too much just yet... We'll see how it goes. If folks absolutely can't stand where small/medium shields are going, we can re-evaluate it."
http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/Post:Shield_crafting_-_07/18/2011_-_05:28
Hunta Talna Kortok, built by Gor'Togs, for Gor'Togs
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg2/caraamon/home.html
Weapons for Sale:
http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/User:Caraamon#Wares
Combat Balance List:
http://tinyurl.com/DRBalance
Re: Forged shields and 3.0 on 10/02/2011 08:58 PM CDT
<<Has anything been said addressing the fact that tanned small shields currently match the best medium shields but with lower hindrance? Any info on how this is changing in 3.0?
Untrue.
>app my shield
You are certain that it imposes fair maneuvering hindrance.
This shield is medium in size.
You are certain that the shield offers fair to great protection.
> squint dragon
You squint at a dragon.
Untrue.
>app my shield
You are certain that it imposes fair maneuvering hindrance.
This shield is medium in size.
You are certain that the shield offers fair to great protection.
> squint dragon
You squint at a dragon.
Re: Forged shields and 3.0 on 10/02/2011 09:03 PM CDT
Re: Forged shields and 3.0 on 10/03/2011 05:15 AM CDT
Re: Forged shields and 3.0 on 10/03/2011 05:21 AM CDT
Re: Forged shields and 3.0 on 10/03/2011 10:46 AM CDT
Re: Forged shields and 3.0 on 10/03/2011 04:53 PM CDT
>>Tzimmerman what kind of shield is that? Mine only goes up to high protection
It's a damite jousting shield.
HCS/Plat gets to very high for the full protection, and since the cap is at high arm worn, my shield is kind of pointless. It's rather depressing really, because in order to make my shield not pointless, I would have to not wear it on the arm, and if I don't wear it on the arm, I might as well go up to a (large category) warrior's tower shield, gnome quest jousting shield, or new forged battle/war shield.
> squint dragon
You squint at a dragon.
It's a damite jousting shield.
HCS/Plat gets to very high for the full protection, and since the cap is at high arm worn, my shield is kind of pointless. It's rather depressing really, because in order to make my shield not pointless, I would have to not wear it on the arm, and if I don't wear it on the arm, I might as well go up to a (large category) warrior's tower shield, gnome quest jousting shield, or new forged battle/war shield.
> squint dragon
You squint at a dragon.
Re: Forged shields and 3.0 on 10/03/2011 05:54 PM CDT
Re: Forged shields and 3.0 on 10/03/2011 11:10 PM CDT
Re: Forged shields and 3.0 on 10/04/2011 11:51 AM CDT
High carbon ceremonial shield, high carbon ordinary shield, weighted lumium ordinary shield, high carbon targe
I've tested all of those and they hit "good" on the top end defense hand held. Of those, looking at the targe it is probably the higher end range of good (since the mid carbon app is "moderately good").
DR Armorcrafting 3.0:
http://tinyurl.com/drarmor3
DR Crafting Calc:
http://tinyurl.com/DRCraftCalc
I've tested all of those and they hit "good" on the top end defense hand held. Of those, looking at the targe it is probably the higher end range of good (since the mid carbon app is "moderately good").
DR Armorcrafting 3.0:
http://tinyurl.com/drarmor3
DR Crafting Calc:
http://tinyurl.com/DRCraftCalc
Re: Forged shields and 3.0 on 10/04/2011 01:20 PM CDT
Re: Forged shields and 3.0 on 10/10/2011 02:52 AM CDT
>>HCS/Plat gets to very high for the full protection, and since the cap is at high arm worn, my shield is kind of pointless.
Just remember, at a certain point the defense penalty to evasion becomes greater than the protection offered by large shields, thus actually lowering your defenses. Statistically Small shields in the upper ranks are always better.
_______________________
As good almost kill a man as kill a good book; who kills a man kills a reasonable creature, God's image; but he who destroys a good book, kills reason itself, kills the image of God, as it were in the eye.
-John Milton
Just remember, at a certain point the defense penalty to evasion becomes greater than the protection offered by large shields, thus actually lowering your defenses. Statistically Small shields in the upper ranks are always better.
_______________________
As good almost kill a man as kill a good book; who kills a man kills a reasonable creature, God's image; but he who destroys a good book, kills reason itself, kills the image of God, as it were in the eye.
-John Milton