Looks like a kind GM fixed it. Please do not punish us. Please. We have changed our ways. We are born again TF'ers.

Natty
Player of Natty
Drinker of Vodka

>> If this accomplishes anything it will be the opposite of what you want (I'm assuming what you want are "more things" as opposed to "less things").

I can be dense sometimes, and I'm not quite following. Care to extrapolate on this?

>> Being passive aggressive toward the GMs because [general] you disagree with a decision they made generally doesn't make what you want happen

I think I can agree with you here to a limit. Replace GM, you, and they with people and still have a true statement. It's human nature.

>> and more often than not it drives GMs away.

This is a tricky situation. I would expect that customers can address grievances with the business without the business, or their volunteer staff, from picking up the ball and going home.

>> Probably doubly-so for an instance that was originally marketed with the idea of not having any GM involvement to begin with.

I wasn't going to open up old wounds, but you've hit on the rub haven't you? It was originally marketed as no GM intervention (either benefiting or hurting the player base). That has changed, and a few of our community has been explicitly told GMs will interfere as they feel necessary. In many cases, this is beneficial to the player base (sometimes benefiting players cross instance). However, the incident you're referring to, will cost a good number of players access to GAME WIDE improvements due to the actions of a few, many of which who quit over the incident, and an overbearing response from management.

I want to emphasize one point. The fallen is no longer an instance "without GM involvement" and hasn't been for quite a while. Yes, the community policies itself on smaller matters, but they are not some isolated island devoid of GM contact/larger policy matters. To suggest we return to that because the player base is upset at being treated like children, rather than the paying customers they are, is not a move in the right direction nor a reasonable response.

>>Thank you for interpreting this as a negative post, when it was a positive post to improve the gameplay experience, and 100 percent in line with policy. Not all the player base is negative, and many of us wish to make this a more enjoyable rewarding experience for all that play this game.

Go ahead. Pull the other one.

You're pretty blatantly transparent, and any attempt deny that is comical at best. I'm pretty bored right now, so I'm looking forward to your attempts to justify your passive aggressive posts.

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-Raesh

LOL?

~Katt

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