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Anyone else think it's whack we have to change our names? I like mine the way it is, terji.
-Windharo
One of the perks of the new system is that you don't have to have a last name. Indeed, old characters that currently have last names they don't like can drop them or release them so other people can use it if they like.
So if you only have one name and like it that way, you don't have to worry about it.
Rev. Reene, player of a few
You ask, "Who wants cake?"
>
Cayene says, "I'm good."
>
Cayene suddenly looks rather queasy.
So if you only have one name and like it that way, you don't have to worry about it.
Rev. Reene, player of a few
You ask, "Who wants cake?"
>
Cayene says, "I'm good."
>
Cayene suddenly looks rather queasy.
<<Anyone else think it's whack we have to change our names? I like mine the way it is, terji.
I find it mad whack that you want to complain about such things. I can't think of any reason beyond wanting to complain as to why you would not capitalize a last name.(aside from some abstract backstory as to why your character doesn't.)
Even then the game is programmed and read in english. You'd think it should follow the standard rules.
I find it mad whack that you want to complain about such things. I can't think of any reason beyond wanting to complain as to why you would not capitalize a last name.(aside from some abstract backstory as to why your character doesn't.)
Even then the game is programmed and read in english. You'd think it should follow the standard rules.
If you don't want a last name, fine, that will be a valid option under the new system. In fact new charas will still roll out of the inn with no last name.
If you want to keep a lowercase last name you currently have, again fine, keep away.
If you don't want to share your last name, fine, don't share it with anyone.
If you DO want to share your last name, that mechanic too will be available. Just keep in mind that the person you have shared with might also be able to pass it along.
What exactly are you PO's about?
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Ranger Hanryu _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _, Sword of House Calibanor
>We are Rangers, all your releases are belong to us. ~ Sylvado
If you want to keep a lowercase last name you currently have, again fine, keep away.
If you don't want to share your last name, fine, don't share it with anyone.
If you DO want to share your last name, that mechanic too will be available. Just keep in mind that the person you have shared with might also be able to pass it along.
What exactly are you PO's about?
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Ranger Hanryu _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _, Sword of House Calibanor
>We are Rangers, all your releases are belong to us. ~ Sylvado
My understanding is that all names will have to be standardized before being able to share them. They will all look the same. Joe Blow instead Joe blow or Joe blow' along those lines. The fact is I do want to share my name with some of my other characters on my other accounts. But I want it to say terji as a testement to my characters age, as if people couldn't tell he was middle-aged by looking at him. I've also have a set of leathers altered, and plan on having at least two more sets done in a similiar fashion.
Ya but whatever, I guess I don't wanna change it cause it's freakin mine and I like it the way it is.
-Windharo
Ya but whatever, I guess I don't wanna change it cause it's freakin mine and I like it the way it is.
-Windharo
>And I seriously dislike the grandfathering of old bad names.
I just like the idea that at a certain point, say over 100+ circle, you're safe from having to reroll a character. Although does anyone know what circle a character is safe from being forceably rerolled? I mean I suppose we'll find out with the whole last name change thing, since they'll probably just reroll everyone with a bad name under a certain circle, but I'd like to know.
Also, are they going to pull characters with just possibly inappropriate last names?
I just like the idea that at a certain point, say over 100+ circle, you're safe from having to reroll a character. Although does anyone know what circle a character is safe from being forceably rerolled? I mean I suppose we'll find out with the whole last name change thing, since they'll probably just reroll everyone with a bad name under a certain circle, but I'd like to know.
Also, are they going to pull characters with just possibly inappropriate last names?
<<what a democracy this is.>>
You are correct in your sarcasm. It's definitely not, never has been, and isn't likely to be.
Solomon
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You are correct in your sarcasm. It's definitely not, never has been, and isn't likely to be.
Solomon
What's going on?
http://www.livejournal.com/~drbubba
<<Someone want to explain exactly what we are talking about? What do you mean that my characters will have to change their last names???>>
They don't, Jim.
Someone's misinformed and/or just searching for things to be upset about.
Solomon
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They don't, Jim.
Someone's misinformed and/or just searching for things to be upset about.
Solomon
What's going on?
http://www.livejournal.com/~drbubba
>Better be careful, they might make ya change it to Namal.
Nam'al would be considered a valid in-genre name. The apostraphe is warranted there. In your example (blow') the apostraphe serves no purpose other than to make it possible to access a last name that was already taken.
>And I don't like your face either. Thats about how much sense it makes for you calling any name a 'bad name'.
I, of course, am not Ahmir, so I can't be absolutely certain of what he meant, but I imagine he meant "bad name" as in bad grammar.
Fuquois
Nam'al would be considered a valid in-genre name. The apostraphe is warranted there. In your example (blow') the apostraphe serves no purpose other than to make it possible to access a last name that was already taken.
>And I don't like your face either. Thats about how much sense it makes for you calling any name a 'bad name'.
I, of course, am not Ahmir, so I can't be absolutely certain of what he meant, but I imagine he meant "bad name" as in bad grammar.
Fuquois
<<You are correct in your sarcasm. It's definitely not, never has been, and isn't likely to be.
Interestingly, corporations actually are pure democracies....
(This Is Not) Mrrar
Out of Context Theatre
"All we know is [...] the Hubs were a sick cross between Marxism and Catholocism." -- Meerc
Interestingly, corporations actually are pure democracies....
(This Is Not) Mrrar
Out of Context Theatre
"All we know is [...] the Hubs were a sick cross between Marxism and Catholocism." -- Meerc
definately not my corporation... we have one guy, he makes the rules, and everyone else has to follow them. So in actuality, that would be a monarchy
Souv
xxxx is teaching a class on advanced (compared to what you already know) empathy, and there appears to be room in it. You are in this class!
Huzzah!
Souv
xxxx is teaching a class on advanced (compared to what you already know) empathy, and there appears to be room in it. You are in this class!
Huzzah!
If one guy runs it it's not technically a corporation is it? I thought the entire idea behind becoming incorporated was public sale of stock and a decision-making panel composed of the persons with the most shares. If one guy owns it all then it's not a corporation. It's a company... even if the name is 'Banana Fruit Max Funny Ha Incoporated.'
Malkien the Barbarian (Kaldar do not sleep. They wait.)
Apis the Cleric (His tears cure cancer. Too bad he's never cried.)
Malkien the Barbarian (Kaldar do not sleep. They wait.)
Apis the Cleric (His tears cure cancer. Too bad he's never cried.)
* Your post here *
<<Everyone remember when they tried to implant a system that made the starting letter of said phrases capitalized>>
if i recall the reason that didn't work had to do with certain phrases one has to say for the thief induction into the guild.
however, if they've found a way to fix that, great.
even though e.e. cummings wouldn't approve...
"Word on the street is, ya been lookin' out for the best interests of the Guild."
<<Everyone remember when they tried to implant a system that made the starting letter of said phrases capitalized>>
if i recall the reason that didn't work had to do with certain phrases one has to say for the thief induction into the guild.
however, if they've found a way to fix that, great.
even though e.e. cummings wouldn't approve...
"Word on the street is, ya been lookin' out for the best interests of the Guild."
>>In my view, you probably should never have been allowed to use a non-capitalized last name in the first place. And I seriously dislike the grandfathering of old bad names.
>Agreed
I second that agreement. Quite frankly, having a lowercase last name doesn't make one look cool or unique. It just makes them look lazy -- too lazy to hit the shift key when they created their character. ::shrugs:: Might not be what you had in mind, or why you did it in the first place, but it's exactly what I think any time I see someone with a lowercase last name.
If you want to be all proud because your last name is different, be proud of the fact you have one at all and that it's different because it's a unique word, not if it's capitalized or not.
Besides, one doesn't run around in the real world saying "No no no.. it's not Bobby Jones, it's ~Bobby jones~, jones. With a lower case j." Please, it doesn't make a difference.
"Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children." -- Kahlil Gibran
>Agreed
I second that agreement. Quite frankly, having a lowercase last name doesn't make one look cool or unique. It just makes them look lazy -- too lazy to hit the shift key when they created their character. ::shrugs:: Might not be what you had in mind, or why you did it in the first place, but it's exactly what I think any time I see someone with a lowercase last name.
If you want to be all proud because your last name is different, be proud of the fact you have one at all and that it's different because it's a unique word, not if it's capitalized or not.
Besides, one doesn't run around in the real world saying "No no no.. it's not Bobby Jones, it's ~Bobby jones~, jones. With a lower case j." Please, it doesn't make a difference.
"Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children." -- Kahlil Gibran
<<I, of course, am not Ahmir, so I can't be absolutely certain of what he meant, but I imagine he meant "bad name" as in bad grammar.>>
I was referring to any sort of "bad name"--whether it's grammatically incorrect (no capitalization), out-of-genre (how many different Drizzts do we have, grandfathered because they've been around so long?), etc.
Marksman Ahmir Nam'al
[pi]
I was referring to any sort of "bad name"--whether it's grammatically incorrect (no capitalization), out-of-genre (how many different Drizzts do we have, grandfathered because they've been around so long?), etc.
Marksman Ahmir Nam'al
[pi]
>> even though e.e. cummings wouldn't approve...
He never approved of this way of writing his name. Indeed, he usually capitalized his own name in writing.
Cummings is my favorite poet, I have to get a little pedantic :)
Though to be on topic, I too really liked the auto-capitalization and punctuation system and wish they'd fix the issues with it and roll it back in.
Rev. Reene, player of a few
Rumet asks, "You know the best thing about Talian?"
>
Talian looks around a moment before glancing at Rumet. With a small grunt, he walks over to Rumet and pokes him in the eyes!
He falls to the ground stunned!
He never approved of this way of writing his name. Indeed, he usually capitalized his own name in writing.
Cummings is my favorite poet, I have to get a little pedantic :)
Though to be on topic, I too really liked the auto-capitalization and punctuation system and wish they'd fix the issues with it and roll it back in.
Rev. Reene, player of a few
Rumet asks, "You know the best thing about Talian?"
>
Talian looks around a moment before glancing at Rumet. With a small grunt, he walks over to Rumet and pokes him in the eyes!
He falls to the ground stunned!
>Though to be on topic, I too really liked the auto-capitalization and punctuation system and wish they'd fix the issues with it and roll it back in.
As someone who tries to always use correct capitalization and punctuation, I liked the release of that system, because it covered my butt at times when I might mistype something.
However, grammar, spelling and punctuation are usually a fairly good indication of who is playing to roleplay, and who isn't. Notice I said fairly. I know there are some awesome RPers with subpar typing skills, but more often than not I find that the people who take it seriously also take how they "speak" in the game more seriously. If everyones' capitalization and punctuation is automatically fixed, I'll have a harder time trying to figure out who to avoid.
>Bob says, "hey vein can u tell me where the thiefs is"
>Vien runs away.
http://www.clawandfang.com
As someone who tries to always use correct capitalization and punctuation, I liked the release of that system, because it covered my butt at times when I might mistype something.
However, grammar, spelling and punctuation are usually a fairly good indication of who is playing to roleplay, and who isn't. Notice I said fairly. I know there are some awesome RPers with subpar typing skills, but more often than not I find that the people who take it seriously also take how they "speak" in the game more seriously. If everyones' capitalization and punctuation is automatically fixed, I'll have a harder time trying to figure out who to avoid.
>Bob says, "hey vein can u tell me where the thiefs is"
>Vien runs away.
http://www.clawandfang.com
>They don't, Jim.
>Someone's misinformed and/or just searching for things to be upset about.
>Solomon
Yeah I was being blonde and not catching the silliness factor there. Basically there should be no problem for anyone, even if you all make non-capitialized last names become capitialized, what's the big deal? ::chuckle:: Thanks for the reply though Solomon to clarify this silliness. :)
Jim
"There is no help for our kind. We walk a lonely road.
"Paladns. There ought to be a bounty on them."
>Someone's misinformed and/or just searching for things to be upset about.
>Solomon
Yeah I was being blonde and not catching the silliness factor there. Basically there should be no problem for anyone, even if you all make non-capitialized last names become capitialized, what's the big deal? ::chuckle:: Thanks for the reply though Solomon to clarify this silliness. :)
Jim
"There is no help for our kind. We walk a lonely road.
"Paladns. There ought to be a bounty on them."
While there are legitimate reasons to have some last names start with lower case letters, the majority will be "fixed".
We're currently looking at all the names of all the characters who have last names that start with lower case letters (a little over 7800 of them) and we're going to try to see if we can't find some sort of patterns to exclude.
One example:
Names that start with "el" or "del" could, in some cases, start with lowercase letters.
This is still up in the air at this point. We may just say "all will be capped" and then handle special cases as they show up (ie "el" and "del" names).
Solomon
What's going on?
http://www.livejournal.com/~drbubba
We're currently looking at all the names of all the characters who have last names that start with lower case letters (a little over 7800 of them) and we're going to try to see if we can't find some sort of patterns to exclude.
One example:
Names that start with "el" or "del" could, in some cases, start with lowercase letters.
This is still up in the air at this point. We may just say "all will be capped" and then handle special cases as they show up (ie "el" and "del" names).
Solomon
What's going on?
http://www.livejournal.com/~drbubba
>>>This is still up in the air at this point. We may just say "all will be capped" and then handle special cases as they show up (ie "el" and "del" names).
Bubba, I've got to wonder... Is there a coding fix for this that can be shoved into the Character Manager and/or Rename Room? Something along the lines of "Your last name does not start with a capital letter. Are you SURE that's what you want? Say YES to keep it the way it is. Say NO to go back and change it."
Amagaim; the player of,
Our culture doesn't get smarter. It finds new ways of being retarded.
Bubba, I've got to wonder... Is there a coding fix for this that can be shoved into the Character Manager and/or Rename Room? Something along the lines of "Your last name does not start with a capital letter. Are you SURE that's what you want? Say YES to keep it the way it is. Say NO to go back and change it."
Amagaim; the player of,
Our culture doesn't get smarter. It finds new ways of being retarded.
<<Bubba, I've got to wonder... Is there a coding fix for this that can be shoved into the Character Manager and/or Rename Room? Something along the lines of "Your last name does not start with a capital letter. Are you SURE that's what you want? Say YES to keep it the way it is. Say NO to go back and change it.">>
Yes, it's possible.
I'm just not sure we want to allow lower cased last names, even for the exceptions. There are so many things to consider with this. ::bleats::
Solomon
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Yes, it's possible.
I'm just not sure we want to allow lower cased last names, even for the exceptions. There are so many things to consider with this. ::bleats::
Solomon
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<<Will there be support for multi-word names as well, as pertains these acceptable lower-case fragments (ie, del Norte as opposed to delNorte)?>>
Good question...let me test...
Doesn't seem to like multiple words.
Solomon
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Good question...let me test...
Doesn't seem to like multiple words.
Solomon
What's going on?
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>Doesn't seem to like multiple words.
I don't think multi word last names are bad, but I'm concerned we'd end up with "the Best" or some other nonsense last name.
If there could be a way to only use approved multi name modifiers, del, el d' O' A'.. although el is The in Spanish...
Hrm...
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So, I totally was zerged in Caracals and I was like "Zomg! Huldah! Raize pls!" and he was like "lol. no. i hate ur posts."
AIM: Huldahs Pal
I don't think multi word last names are bad, but I'm concerned we'd end up with "the Best" or some other nonsense last name.
If there could be a way to only use approved multi name modifiers, del, el d' O' A'.. although el is The in Spanish...
Hrm...
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So, I totally was zerged in Caracals and I was like "Zomg! Huldah! Raize pls!" and he was like "lol. no. i hate ur posts."
AIM: Huldahs Pal
Since I doubt you've included a switch to allow an asian-esque style of naming (ie, Fa Mulan where Fa is the family name and Mulan is the name of the individual) would it be possible to add that in? I don't think I'd like being called by my lastname all the time...
J'Lo, no that other one
J'Lo, no that other one
<<would it be possible to add that in?>>
Anything is possible. Just not sure there's much to gain by it. Most likely we'll suggest appripriate uses of apostrophes and hyphens.
Solomon
What's going on?
http://www.livejournal.com/~drbubba
Anything is possible. Just not sure there's much to gain by it. Most likely we'll suggest appripriate uses of apostrophes and hyphens.
Solomon
What's going on?
http://www.livejournal.com/~drbubba
