question on dispel on 12/29/2012 12:47 AM CST
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Is dispel able to be used on a cyclic spell?

I tried having my WM cast it on my bard <bard had dema up>, and was unable to affect him.

You gesture at Yacov.
Amber aether seeps into visibility, flowing in a current that ebbs away from Yacov. It slowly diffuses as your spell seeks out an energy pattern to undo.

Your spell did not affect anything.
Roundtime: 1 sec.


bard viewpoint:
Shvartzgonif gestures at you.
Amber aether seeps into visibility, flowing in a current that ebbs away from you. It slowly diffuses as an uncomfortable feeling sets in.


Didn't effect the spell, next pulse came same as usual.



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Re: question on dispel on 12/29/2012 02:13 AM CST
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Can't dispel cyclics.
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Re: question on dispel on 12/29/2012 02:33 AM CST
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hmm. then suppose someone were fighting a bard- or a critter based on a bard template? what would be the recommended procedure <other than the usual - take their head off with a sword?


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Re: question on dispel on 12/29/2012 06:58 AM CST
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Not all bard spells are cyclics. But maybe an AP spell that reduces the targets harness is in order?
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Re: question on dispel on 12/29/2012 09:07 AM CST
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I think part of the reward for the cost of cyclics is the 'no dispel' function. Otherwise in a PVP sense it's nothing but a liability, and there's every reason to never touch them.

And no critters use cyclics so it's a straight PVP argument.



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Re: question on dispel on 12/29/2012 09:16 AM CST
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>But maybe an AP spell that reduces the targets harness is in order?

Sounds like a great idea for the upcoming poison system rather than a spell.

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Re: question on dispel on 12/29/2012 09:26 AM CST
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amended...

And no critters use cyclics.... yet.




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Re: question on dispel on 12/29/2012 09:28 AM CST
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rather than poison, how about some type of ability to "manufacture" the type of mana parasite that resides in the zaulfang swamps?

maybe with invoking under enchanting?


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Re: question on dispel on 12/29/2012 11:50 AM CST
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>But maybe an AP spell that reduces the targets harness is in order?

What about mana disruption? No problem that can't be fixed with more sorcery. It's already a spell, just needs to be converted over.
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Re: question on dispel on 12/29/2012 12:45 PM CST
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There are a couple of things which can't be dispelled. Cyclics are one of them, and everyone has cyclics. Rituals are another(at least some of them are dispellable to my knowledge), and spells in a Cleric's orb are also initially-dispellable. To a non-magic but still-supernatural degree, neither Thief Khri nor Barbarian abilities can be dispelled either.

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Re: question on dispel on 12/29/2012 02:01 PM CST
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<<No problem that can't be fixed with more sorcery.>>

I like the way you think.
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Re: question on dispel on 12/29/2012 04:56 PM CST
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I'd prefer a Harness Disruption spell be AP, or a Sorcery spell available to all magic users. I admittedly don't know much about sorcery though. But I like the idea of being able to disrupt Harness recovery or reduce channeling into a cyclic.
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Re: question on dispel on 12/29/2012 05:19 PM CST
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Um there's already a spell that does that basically called Mana disruption.
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Re: question on dispel on 12/29/2012 05:26 PM CST
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I didn't know the existing non-guild sorcery was porting over to 3.0 wholesale. Cool.
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Re: question on dispel on 12/29/2012 06:11 PM CST
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I'm not exactly sure if it is or not, just saying the spell concept has already been out there. I never saw many people using it before honestly so maybe they weren't gonna bring it over after all.
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Re: question on dispel on 12/29/2012 06:16 PM CST
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In general sorcery wasn't used due to the harness cap and the excessive backfire. And no I dont believe mana disruption made it. I know energy manacles is gone. Cant remember if I had a disruption scroll in there ot not but it seems all the non guild sorceries poofed.

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Re: question on dispel on 12/30/2012 12:28 AM CST
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i did have a mana disruption scroll platside that poofed when 3.0 was put in there. On the other hand, i had sever thread scrolls that poofed as well, so who knows.

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