I recently performed the following experiment, to confirm something I've suspected for a while.

Scholarship 243
Compendium containing Dwarven, Elothean, Elven, Human, Kaldar, Prydaen, Rakash, S'Kra Mur, Silver Leucro and Snow Goblin charts.

I began with no scholarship experience. I studied every chart. Every chart required only a single study, and scholarship did not pulse during the process. At the end, my scholarship had moved from 0/34 to 8/34.

I then waited for my scholarship to clear again. I did not gain a rank during this time. I put up a capped Faenella's Grace (approximately 90 rank scholarship boost) and studied every chart. Every chart required only a single study, and scholarship did not pulse during the process. At the end, my scholarship had moved from 0/34 to 5/34.

(I actually had to repeat this process multiple times to get a run without scholarship pulsing. The rejected runs gave very similar results.)

The conclusion seems to be that a bonus to scholarship causes me to learn less per study. I thought bonuses didn't do that?

8 racial charts is also a little much in my opinion. I keep only 6 or 7 racials.

All racial charts are on the same difficulty level (125 scholarship?) and is probably a good contributing factor to lowered experience at your scholarship.

My thief has just around 300 scholarship and I'm doing up to Rock Trolls with that char.

Moon mage has 447 scholarship working up to Gidii.

If your goal is to learn scholarship you definitely need to use the more difficult charts. If your goal is to learn FA then the easier charts are better (significant FA exp only on success)

Ugh- That can be a pain!

Usually when I'm approaching a challenge, I'm just barely under the edge of the ability to handle it. Coming from over is a very different perspective.


Sometimes the key to happiness is not assuming it is locked in the first place- Ziggy

A journey of a thousand SMILES begins with a single step- Ziggy

Comps can hold 10 charts.

There aren't that many charts, so you need the weaker charts too.

my moon mage's comp's set up is:


Silver Leucro
Gor'Tog
Human
Kaldar
Snow Goblin
Rock Troll
Peccary
River Caiman
Gidii
Lanky Grey Lach

and my study script goes throught hem in that order. (which I believe is the order of difficulty)


You can most likely swap Silver Leucro out for another race chart. mine was collected when my Moon mage was still starting out.



at 535 scholarship I study up to Gidii and Gidii completes in 2 tries with the second try at 11 RT.

You can probably study up to Caiman with some difficulty.

Scholarship noobie my self. The leucro chart worked wonderfully but now at a thunderous 63 ranks I complete it on the 1st or second try. According to the information I was given, the next easiest chart would be my native races' anatomy chart (elothean). I am not even close to understanding this one...the 20s RT does lock my scholarship eventually but no FA.

Is there an easier chart I should have bridged with or am I stuck in no man's land? And does this skill play ANY roll in scrolls or magic anymore?

Once I get to 40 FA and 40 Scholarship, I buy a full set of charts and put 9 in each of two compendiums and then I do the following:

put get other compendium
put turn my compendium
put study my compendium
put stow my compendium
repeat

While I may not learn anything from most charts, it doesn't take long to move both FA and Scholarship with this method. Is it simplistic? Yes. But it's also a nearly idiot-proof method of training those two skills.


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You flat out, absolutely, 100% have no idea what you're talking about.

Solomon

While a pain to be tied to The Crossing, and not to negate the request for more high level compendiums (which I second!), studying the Raven's Court artwork will still teach at those levels if you're hungry for the ranks.

Kythryn

I agree, I don't use the Court unless I am up here doing something else anyhow. Usually, I run through there between some perc health walks while I am letting my Empathy/PP drain out a little. I'm a huge fan of the "new" exp system since we don't have to lock things anymore to keep skills moving, so just getting the schola/app into double digits usually lasts until I need a break from the empathy training. Unfortunately, with all the guards/wandering NPC's + shop NPC's + players on the street, Crossing is still the best place for me to work empathy when I'm serious about training it too.

But, all that aside, I also wish the higher level compendiums would be addressed and added, since 90% of my time is NOT in Crossing. (I don't get serious about empathy training too often...hehe)

Also, I guess I was on hiatus when they rolled in the change, but why did they so severly reduce the scholarship learning from spellbooks?

Kythryn

Here is another datapoint to add to Purehand's findings.

Scholarship: 651

Started at clear, after studying 27 pieces of art in Raven's Court (that's all I could find, are there more?) I ended up at 12/34 in scholarship.

Maybe roundtimes could be reduced for higher skill levels as a perk of having more scholarship?

I occasionally go in there to actually, like, read the artwork descriptions from time to time, so less RT with higher scholarship would be nice.

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Rev. Reene

>poke eyes
You can't poke the Eyes of the Thirteen.

>Maybe roundtimes could be reduced for higher skill levels as a perk of having more scholarship?

This would be great.



~ Purehand

"Composed of rock, the gargoyle is a statue come to life at the hand of an ambitious mage." - Construct.

>A bit late, but 25 is how many I count (5 in each room) Where am I missing some?

I don't know the exact number, but there's at least a couple pieces in the VIP area.

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>describe boar
It's a boar. It doesn't like you.

There is a couple of pieces you can study at the base of the stairs before you go up.