I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/05/2002 11:05 AM CDT
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Losing 8:0 to Germany....Nothing to bash Germany, but losing by that much...Blech
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Re: I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/05/2002 11:24 AM CDT
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<<Losing 8:0 to Germany....Nothing to bash Germany, but losing by that much...Blech

Only had 3 shots in the game and only 1 of them on goal.

Sylvado
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Re: I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/06/2002 07:35 AM CDT
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Don't forget the Camerons 1 - Saudi Arabia 0

Gotta suck when the commentators are saying ya played a way better team even when you're loosing.

And by the way, France update: Red card!

Ecoles
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Re: I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/06/2002 07:36 AM CDT
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Second France update.

Petite - yellow card, that makes 2. He's out of the next game.

That's 2 starters our for the next game. Sucks to be france.

Ecoles
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Re: I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/06/2002 08:34 AM CDT
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Greetings Ecoles.

>That's 2 starters our for the next game. Sucks to be france.

No, it doesn't, we won't have any more game with our last score! laughs (0-0 with Uruguay)

This will save some money to the French taxpayers if the team makes it back sooner, I like it!

The player of Fafrahd the slinger

PS: Can you tell I don't like soccer? chuckles
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Re: I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/06/2002 08:37 AM CDT
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<<Petite - yellow card, that makes 2. He's out of the next game.

That is the only thing that annoyed me about the USA game. Why would Beasley pick up a yellow for delaying at the 92nd minute? That is a mental breakdown.

Sylvado
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Re: I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/06/2002 09:11 AM CDT
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>>No, it doesn't, we won't have any more game with our last score! laughs (0-0 with Uruguay)

>>This will save some money to the French taxpayers if the team makes it back sooner, I like it!


Actually.....

France currently has 1 point right now. Along with Uruguay. I'll post a quick table:

Senegal - 4 points - 1 win, 1 tie

Denmark - 4 points - 1 win, 1 tie

France - 1 point - 1 tie, 1 loss

Uruguay - 1 point - 1 tie, 1 loss

As points are awared by FIFA as 3 points per win, 1 point per tie and 0 points for a loss.

One is then able to see that if either Senegal or Denmark looses the next game, a 3 or 4 way tie will be present, depending on who wins.

Now, on a tie, FIFA regulations say that a goal deficit will be the tie breaker. Now you might as what that might be. Say for example, France lost the first game by a score of 1-0, and tied the second game at 0-0, well, France has a -1 goal deficit, while Senegal for example, has a +1 goal deficit, for scoring against France and Denmark. Another table follows:

Denmark - 3 goals scored, 2 goals scored against - +1

Senegal - 2 goals scored, 1 goal scored against - +1

Uruguay - 1 goal scored, 2 goals scored against - -1

France - 0 goal scored, 1 goal scored against - -1

Now, as you can see, if France, in their game against Denmark (without two of their starters) wins by at least 3 goals they will advance.

Of course if either either Senegal or Denmark tie, win or score more goals, this point is moot.

So as you can see, France has a chance to advance, and France does indeed have a game, FIFA regulations state that a team must not forfeit a game in the Wold Cup Finals.

Ecoles.
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Re: I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/06/2002 09:18 AM CDT
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I would like to make a correction to my last post, since I last read them, the FIFA rules have changed.

It is not a goal deficit anymore, but a goals scored that will determine the tie breaker.

Ecoles
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Re: I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/06/2002 09:23 AM CDT
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<<It is not a goal deficit anymore, but a goals scored that will determine the tie breaker.

That is bad for the game but good for the fans.

Sylvado
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Re: I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/06/2002 01:32 PM CDT
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>>That is bad for the game but good for the fans.

Yap..Pure reward for offensive capabilities and nothing for defense....Kinda crummy. Beat someone 6:0 and someone that beats someone 7:6 is gonna get placed above you...Blarg.
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Re: I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/06/2002 02:06 PM CDT
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Senegal and Denmark need do no better then a draw to both advance to the next round. Senegal should be able to beat Uruguay, and Denmark is a better team then France is currently.

We should just change this thread to France is out.

C-Tom ~ Already getting excited for 2006.
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Re: I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/06/2002 02:26 PM CDT
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Well all I have to say is how about the Azure.

Arctuniol
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Re: I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/06/2002 05:14 PM CDT
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Ireland 1-Germany 1 What does that say about the Irish?
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Re: I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/06/2002 10:31 PM CDT
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>>Ireland 1-Germany 1 What does that say about the Irish?

They took 90 minutes out fo their busy day to quit drinkin'?
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Re: I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/07/2002 10:22 AM CDT
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England 1 - Argentina 0

Oh oh! Seems the both favorites are having trouble....

It would really be fun if the second round was made up of team no one knew. And Brasil of course, but that's a given. Anyone know of the other results today, I didn't wake early enough.

Ecoles
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Re: I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/07/2002 10:28 AM CDT
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http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/en/t/s/g.html

For all scores, half time scores, and match times....

England has to beat Nigeria to advance...And Nigeria hasn't done much yet....So....At least England should be moving on. Dunno who gonna win between Swedes and Argentinians.
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Re: I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/07/2002 01:58 PM CDT
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Hmmm, one thing Brasil won't win this world cup is the fair play award, or a certain player stood by the corner flag and acted like the ball had broken his nose and popped out his eyes, when it hit his thigh, if that's Brasilian briliance, keep it
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Re: I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/07/2002 01:59 PM CDT
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England needs only to draw with Nigeria, but if Sweden beat Argentina, bye bye Argentina, group favorite
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Re: I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/07/2002 04:11 PM CDT
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Rivaldo's action was just his experience doing the talking for him :). It's the same thing when you see people like Karl Malone or Michael Jordan flop, let the ball fly out of their hands, scream at the right tie to get the attention of the referee, it's all in the same lines. What you gotta pay attention to is the turkish player pegging the ball towards Rivaldo, who was only 10 feet away from him.

It would've been a card nonetheless, granted, it would probably be a yellow, but don't try to criticize a two time golden cleats player (that's the best Soccer player in the world for those that don't know), those tend to have the experience to have their way. And lets not forget that if the camera wasn't pointing at Rivaldo when it happened, everyone would've believed him.

Ecoles
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Re: I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/07/2002 04:37 PM CDT
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An excellent and eloquent (unlike me) way of justifying and defending plain and simple cheating, which brings shame to himself, his country but worst of all on the sport of football. Rivaldo should be on the plane back to Brasil instead of a 5,000 fine.

Seppy
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Re: I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/07/2002 07:51 PM CDT
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Yeah...That was just a bit like "Who cares if (insert actor) snorts 5 lines a night and shares it with all his hookers...He's a good actor!"
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Re: I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/08/2002 01:19 PM CDT
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>It would've been a card nonetheless, granted, it would probably be a yellow, but don't try to criticize a two time golden cleats player (that's the best Soccer player in the world for those that don't know)

Eh 1 it's football (that's what the second F in FIFA stands for) and 2 what the hell's a cleat <grins> footballers wear studs :P
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Re: I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/08/2002 04:46 PM CDT
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<Eh 1 it's football (that's what the second F in FIFA stands for) and 2 what the hell's a cleat <grins> footballers wear studs :P>


Another non-heathen! blame it on colonialism. (ducks)

Seppy
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Re: I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/11/2002 03:16 PM CDT
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Well , Soccer unlike american football where the referee can check videos and such has a ..hmm...tricky side to it. If you're smart and you can act that your eyes bugged out to get the other player a yellow , go for it, he could have gotten the yellow for himself for faking it. Anyway when you kick the ball at someone like that you'll get a yellow card anyway, ,he just made it the Brazilian way. And dang it was funny.

Paladin Phanton, Brazilian.
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Re: I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/12/2002 11:04 AM CDT
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Hrmm...Argentina goes bye bye...No Hand of God this year? ::Cackles::

And England advances, even though they missed a buncha shots on goal they shoulda had....Some of that was just sloppy...Course, Nigerian goalie was a lucky sod.
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Re: I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/12/2002 11:29 AM CDT
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<<And England advances, even though they missed a buncha shots on goal they shoulda had....Some of that was just sloppy...Course, Nigerian goalie was a lucky sod.


England advances with 2 goals in 3 games and France finishes last in group only allowing 3 goals in 3 games.

Sylvado
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Re: I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/12/2002 01:50 PM CDT
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GO ENGLAND! BYE BYE ARGENTINA HAVE A SAFE FLIGHT HOME

SEE YOU IN THE NEXT ROUND DENMARK
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Re: I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/12/2002 01:57 PM CDT
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Wouldn't get too optimistic at the moment. With only 3 goals scored, and the only real threat being Owen, England is a long way from advancing past Denmark.

Ecoles
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Re: I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/12/2002 02:14 PM CDT
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<<Wouldn't get too optimistic at the moment. With only 3 goals scored, and the only real threat being Owen, England is a long way from advancing past Denmark.

Only 2 goals scored, however they have only allowed 1.

Sylvado
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Re: I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/12/2002 04:43 PM CDT
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>Wouldn't get too optimistic at the moment.

Wait til we meet Brazil in the quarters, then you'll see :)
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Re: I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/12/2002 10:47 PM CDT
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Heh.......

Indeed we shall.

Like I said, England has one scoring person. Owen. With him in the game, ya guys are good, enough to have a chance of beating Brasil. But he doesn't have enough stamina on him to play the whole game.

Ecoles
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Re: I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/13/2002 07:47 PM CDT
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Why do you keep saying England only have 1 scorer in David Owen, no cancel that, just keep thinking that way, then you won't notice Vassel, Heskey, Scholes, Sheringham or Beckham slip a ball past you.

As for:-

<GO ENGLAND! BYE BYE ARGENTINA HAVE A SAFE FLIGHT HOME

SEE YOU IN THE NEXT ROUND DENMARK>

Wouldn't get too optimistic at the moment. With only 3 goals scored, and the only real threat being Owen, England is a long way from advancing past Denmark.

That was a statement of fact not optimism, Argentina are out and we do play Denmark in the next round on Saturday, granted there may have been a little gloating at Argentina being out, but we English do have fair reason to gloat at the ''Argies''

Seppy
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Re: I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/13/2002 08:42 PM CDT
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<<Beckham>>

He played a marvelous first game back from his broken foot. Though he was replaced in the second half, he really had some phenomenal passes in the first half. I am really looking forward to the game on Saturday.

Starkad
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Re: I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/14/2002 07:51 AM CDT
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Where does everyone find this 3 goals for England? They played 3 matches, 1:1, 1:0, 0:0. That is 2 goals scored, was the third on the grassy knoll?

Sylvado
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Re: I just feel bad for the Saudis... on 06/14/2002 08:47 AM CDT
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>Where does everyone find this 3 goals for England?

Beckham goals count twice.
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