Creature appraisal on 04/06/2009 11:12 PM CDT
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So miss Laniea has about 45 appraisal. I can't get it moving appraising creatures.

Is there a base amount you need before you can start learning this way?
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Re: Creature appraisal on 04/07/2009 12:12 AM CDT
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It doesn't become super efficient until you can get both offensive and defensive appraisals off of them, at 76 ranks.

Just use a gem pouch until then.

GENT
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Re: Creature appraisal on 04/07/2009 12:18 AM CDT
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>It doesn't become super efficient until you can get both offensive and defensive appraisals off of them, at 76 ranks.

Eh, slightly disagree, plus rank requirements depend entirely on stats and guild.
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Re: Creature appraisal on 04/07/2009 02:31 AM CDT
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>>Just use a gem pouch until then.

Not sure what the cap is on it but I find that if I app <direction> while swimming that I can work my appraisal quite well. At a whopping circle 5. :p
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Re: Creature appraisal on 04/07/2009 09:03 AM CDT
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As it has been said, I've found that it is easiest to fill a gem pouch and simply appraise that. I could appraise creatures very well as a barbarian until I had 70 to 80 ranks. However, I still do most my learning from gem pouches.

Currently I have 114 ranks of appraisal and I've been play slightly under two months.


~Player of Khorgar, Dwarven Barbarian~


AIM: KhorgarDR
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Re: Creature appraisal on 04/07/2009 11:50 AM CDT
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>As it has been said, I've found that it is easiest to fill a gem pouch and simply appraise that. I could appraise creatures very well as a barbarian until I had 70 to 80 ranks. However, I still do most my learning from gem pouches.
>Currently I have 114 ranks of appraisal and I've been play slightly under two months.

I got my first 100 ranks from gem pouches really easy. After that they started to really slow down, but that's when I discovered critter apping.

>app (critter) quick

after each kill in my hunting script shot me from 100 to 215ish, staying consistently above all my other combat skills (armor prime, weapons/lore secondary).
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Re: Creature appraisal on 04/07/2009 12:03 PM CDT
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>>Eh, slightly disagree, plus rank requirements depend entirely on stats and guild.

Actually, I've seen that statement to be pretty true regardless of guild or stats. I distinctly remember trying critter appraisal on a Bard and a Barbarian, the former being lore primary with a heavy focus on mental stats and the latter being lore tertiary with a heavy focus on physical stats.

The result, for me at least, was pretty much the same: I couldn't get appraisal moving well, even with a tertiary pool, until about 70 ranks, when I could start getting offense and defense appraisals. Now appraisal is mind locked constantly on my Barbarian even though appraisal is 60 ranks above his highest weapon.


-Joshua, player of Malkien
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Re: Creature appraisal on 04/07/2009 12:37 PM CDT
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I'm pretty sure that it's a hard rank requirement to get both the offensive and defensive lines in critter appraisal. One happens at 30 something the other at 76 ranks (I forget which comes first). I always found it odd that there was a hard req.. I believe that it's independant of guild/stats, too.

GENT
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Re: Creature appraisal on 04/07/2009 01:45 PM CDT
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Hasn't it been mentioned at some point that Dart or someone was looking into making it easier for smaller players to know what they were up against?


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Re: Creature appraisal on 04/08/2009 11:08 PM CDT
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>>Eh, slightly disagree, plus rank requirements depend entirely on stats and guild.

I do too. Critter apps trained my barbarian quite well at 50ish ranks, though it was on the low side when I started to really work it and I was in with reavers and sand sprites by that time.
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Re: Creature appraisal on 05/09/2009 03:42 AM CDT
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> Just use a gem pouch until then.


You can also use lumpy bundles(creature skins). I'm using them almost exclusively to train my appraisal right now. And they work amazing. I don't even bother using gem pouches anymore.

Especially with the gem changes, pouches dont have as much value anymore.

Make sure its not a tied bundle, it's night and day the teaching difference.
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Re: Creature appraisal on 05/09/2009 09:29 AM CDT
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With the Raven's court you don't need pouches or bundles if you're around xing




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