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Ive read all the posts about stat averages and it did not work for me. What am I doing wrong?
circle 10 gnome I had:
Strength : 8 Reflex : 14
Agility : 12 Charisma : 10
Discipline : 10 Wisdom : 10
Intelligence : 14 Stamina : 9
I gained 100+ tdps as expected as average =10.875.
I trained and raised some str and stam at circle 11 to get:
Strength : 12 Reflex : 14
Agility : 12 Charisma : 10
Discipline : 10 Wisdom : 10
Intelligence : 14 Stamina : 13
Just circled to 12 and I got 50 even though stat average was 11.875. So was it training penalty stats (I am a gnome) that caused me to get gipped out of my extra TDPs?
Further, now that we can all roll perfect 80s in character manager, why do we need to not train to get the most out of training?
>>So was it training penalty stats (I am a gnome) that caused me to get gipped out of my extra TDPs?
The only thing we know about this is that all our previous knowledge on the subject is wrong and anyone who might know isn't speaking up. You may have just cracked this case wide open with the penalty stat-raising, though.
For clarity's sake, stat average versus circle (lower than, equal to, or greater than) is not the guage you need to be going by.
DISCLAIMER: THIS POSTER IS NOT A MEMBER OF STAFF AND HIS INFORMATION IS/MIGHT BE WRONG.
The only thing we know about this is that all our previous knowledge on the subject is wrong and anyone who might know isn't speaking up. You may have just cracked this case wide open with the penalty stat-raising, though.
For clarity's sake, stat average versus circle (lower than, equal to, or greater than) is not the guage you need to be going by.
DISCLAIMER: THIS POSTER IS NOT A MEMBER OF STAFF AND HIS INFORMATION IS/MIGHT BE WRONG.
I'm currently training a gnome commoner and will be testing this soon. I spent some of the original 600 tdp's and have the following stats:
Strength : 12 Reflex : 14
Agility : 12 Charisma : 10
Discipline : 11 Wisdom : 10
Intelligence : 14 Stamina : 12
Currently I have 2028 tdp's to spend and have yet to join a guild and circle. By the time I start circling and spending tdp's, I should have about 3000 tdp's to spend and my plan is to raise stats in increments of 8 after every circle in which I gain 100 tdp's by spending the tdp's on whichever stat is the cheapest to train. I'll keep everyone posted as to how this works out.
Life is too short to drink cheap beer.
Strength : 12 Reflex : 14
Agility : 12 Charisma : 10
Discipline : 11 Wisdom : 10
Intelligence : 14 Stamina : 12
Currently I have 2028 tdp's to spend and have yet to join a guild and circle. By the time I start circling and spending tdp's, I should have about 3000 tdp's to spend and my plan is to raise stats in increments of 8 after every circle in which I gain 100 tdp's by spending the tdp's on whichever stat is the cheapest to train. I'll keep everyone posted as to how this works out.
Life is too short to drink cheap beer.
I've got a new working theory that's based on a weighted stat average. Basically, my theory is that the game estimates how many tdps you spent on stats based on their training cost. So if you train a stat you have a bonus in, your stat average can be higher than your circle (we saw that with the people that broke the rule). Conversely, if you train your penalized stats up and neglect your bonused stats, you'd hit the penalty even if your stat average is equal to your circle.
When in doubt, play it conservatively. That works 100% of the time.
When in doubt, play it conservatively. That works 100% of the time.
The more posts I read about this, the more frustrated I get. This penalty should be done away with, plain and simple.
Also, JMF90 is probably right about the weighted stat average. I remember reading somebody else's theory about not training the racially penalized stats because of this. I hope to test it out on my next noob.
Roger
Also, JMF90 is probably right about the weighted stat average. I remember reading somebody else's theory about not training the racially penalized stats because of this. I hope to test it out on my next noob.
Roger
