Is this new? on 11/27/2008 12:42 PM CST
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Taking one last glance at the thing you hold that some call a runestone, you toss it high overhead as you center your mind on your inner strength. With a brutal mid-chest lunge, your scimitar smashes into the falling avaes runestone, lodging it on your scimitar. Grumbling you pull the runestone from your scimitar and toss it aside.

A vision of a fire in an open pit flashes in your mind. You see youself hurling logs into the fire, which roars with each addition. The fire vanishes and you feel refreshed.


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Satfiki wipes a bit of Rmel's spittle from her arm.
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Re: Is this new? on 11/27/2008 12:48 PM CST
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na its one of our rune meditations. see http://www.olwydd.org/guilds/barbarian/runes.php


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Naissura squints at the balance beam needle and says, "There's some stuff in here. All told, the backpack weighs about two thousand, one stones," and puts the backpack on the counter.
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Re: Is this new? on 11/27/2008 12:49 PM CST
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Nope. You're able to gain inner fire as well as lose it when you destroy runestones. The GMs still haven't explained to us the details and why we gain and lose it sometimes.


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Re: Is this new? on 11/27/2008 12:51 PM CST
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Id still like to be able to eat spell scrolls and what not.


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Naissura squints at the balance beam needle and says, "There's some stuff in here. All told, the backpack weighs about two thousand, one stones," and puts the backpack on the counter.
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Re: Is this new? on 11/27/2008 11:59 PM CST
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>Id still like to be able to eat spell scrolls and what not.

Working on it. :)


~GM Aurdun
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Re: Is this new? on 11/28/2008 12:01 AM CST
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>>>Id still like to be able to eat spell scrolls and what not.

>>Working on it. :)

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Hmm, two in one week... (^_^)


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Re: Is this new? on 11/28/2008 09:00 AM CST
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>Id still like to be able to eat spell scrolls and what not

I've always wanted to use spell scrolls to roll my own cigars.
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Re: Is this new? on 11/28/2008 09:54 PM CST
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I think we should create a guild outhouse so the scrolls can be properly utilized.




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Re: Is this new? on 11/28/2008 09:58 PM CST
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>>I think we should create a guild outhouse so the scrolls can be properly utilized.

No, No and No again.

No getting your inner fire all over our lovely scrolls.

GM Oolan Jeel

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Re: Is this new? on 11/29/2008 02:26 AM CST
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But! Apparently a scroll is just a piece of parchment when you can't even tell it's got that there fancy majikal writing on it. How would a poor barb know? ;)
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Re: Is this new? on 11/29/2008 04:13 PM CST
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For what it's worth, I'll be removing the prohibition on Barbarians identifing magic scrolls sometime Simu-Soon (tm), alongside a revised skill check for the process. I suggest catching MD classes if you want your character to truck with magic.

-Armifer
"...everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms-- to choose one's attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one's own way."
-Viktor Frankl
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Re: Is this new? on 11/29/2008 04:24 PM CST
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>>I suggest catching MD classes if you want your character to truck with magic.

and if you want MD you shouldn't be in the barb guild.


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Naissura squints at the balance beam needle and says, "There's some stuff in here. All told, the backpack weighs about two thousand, one stones," and puts the backpack on the counter.
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Re: Is this new? on 11/29/2008 05:36 PM CST
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> >>I suggest catching MD classes if you want your character to truck with magic.


I would also insert the caution that the intent all along was for magic experience to reduce magic resistance, so tinker with magic toys (including scrolls) at your own risk! Whether that stays or changes as we rework magic resistance is still up in the air at the moment, but again, tinkering with magic is probably not a very wise thing for the barbarians of today to do.

- GM Dartenian


If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right. - Henry Ford
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Re: Is this new? on 11/29/2008 05:46 PM CST
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If this is something that will be required of all guilds in order to read scrolls I have zero issue with that. My barb wouldn't do it, but knowing that such an option is there and equally applied to everyone is just good news.
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Re: Is this new? on 11/29/2008 07:04 PM CST
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>>If this is something that will be required of all guilds in order to read scrolls I have zero issue with that.

Yup. The basic notion is that understanding a scroll should be a two-step process.

1: Can you understand the language and notations of the scroll? (Scholarship)
2: Do you know enough about magic to understand what it's trying to say? (Magical Devices)

-Armifer
"...everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms-- to choose one's attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one's own way."
-Viktor Frankl
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Re: Is this new? on 11/30/2008 07:51 AM CST
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So basically with no MD, we'll pretty much just get something akin to what we have now. IE we look at scroll, see it has some gibberish on it (a lot of letters/runes/etc that we know individually, but apparently even with high levels of scholarship cannot put together into words).

I'd rather see a scholarship based check (maybe schol/wisdom/intel check) that would yield us at most just the spell name on the dang things. That way I know if it's something worth keeping or another piece of compost TP.
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Re: Is this new? on 11/30/2008 08:14 AM CST
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>>I'd rather see a scholarship based check (maybe schol/wisdom/intel check) that would yield us at most just the spell name on the dang things. That way I know if it's something worth keeping or another piece of compost TP.

That sounds like the plan. If you want to be able to invoke/study it then that's what the MD ranks are for.


~Thilan
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Re: Is this new? on 11/30/2008 01:25 PM CST
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>>So basically with no MD, we'll pretty much just get something akin to what we have now.

Yup, but everyone in that situation will suffer with you.

>>IE we look at scroll, see it has some gibberish on it (a lot of letters/runes/etc that we know individually, but apparently even with high levels of scholarship cannot put together into words).

The idea is that scrolls are highly technical documents -- or else you'd never needed Scholarship to begin with. I could quote you passages from research journals where a layman would recognize every individual word in the document, but not understand what any of it means without the proper background (or some quality time on Wikipedia querying keywords). To understand some papers in my own discipline requires me to go back and trace obscure lines of thought and research. In short, it tests my skill in my discipline.

Formerly, we defined that background knowledge in magic as "screw Barbarians." Very easy to code, but not as flexible as it could be. So, we're changing that to the Magical Devices skill.

>>That sounds like the plan. If you want to be able to invoke/study it then that's what the MD ranks are for.

Nope.

(Scholarship win) You recognize that the strange scrawl is a stilted, short-hand form illustrating a magic pattern...
(Magical Devices fail) ...but do not understand enough of the technical jargon to make sense of it.

-Armifer
"...everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms-- to choose one's attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one's own way."
-Viktor Frankl
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Re: Is this new? on 11/30/2008 09:23 PM CST
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Keep in mind that there will be a hit to certain things if you have magic ranks after a point, yet to be determined.


~GM Aurdun
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"Don't use logic on scientists. That's just mean." ~ GM Zeyurn
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Re: Is this new? on 12/01/2008 08:47 AM CST
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I say make Barb Meditations/IF usage teachable so finger wagglers can feel similar vices.
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Re: Is this new? on 12/01/2008 10:23 AM CST
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A new skill... Something that helps us better utilize our IF? I like.
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Re: Is this new? on 12/01/2008 11:25 AM CST
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Even if an IF skill were something I fully supported, it probably wouldn't happen. We're pushing the number of skills the game is able to allow as it is.


~GM Aurdun
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History Guru

"Don't use logic on scientists. That's just mean." ~ GM Zeyurn
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Re: Is this new? on 12/01/2008 12:18 PM CST
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>>Even if an IF skill were something I fully supported, it probably wouldn't happen. We're pushing the number of skills the game is able to allow as it is.

Just a random interjection, but I've always thought it might be interesting to explore the idea of changing he name of MO to something like Battle Tactics or Combat Maneuvers, etc. and thinking of other ways it could be applied besides just MO situations. It's always seemed like a bit of a limited-scope skill, regardless of how useful that limited scope may be.


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