Hehe, Galain cast Zephyr in the room I was in and I dropped from 100% to 0% instantly. Thanks for posting that chart I thought I had dropped to 10%-20% but now realized that that last messaging is far lower than that. Galain is a god, to do that to a 70th barb is a hell of a feat.


Battle Rager Catullus

He's also got 60+ Circles on you
~Curi et al


"Don't drink and park. Accidents make people."

<<ya so when is a barb 60 circles higher then a mage going to be able to sap his mana away using a roar? >>

I'm leaning towards that it won't happen. Gotta give the mages something to keep them going. <ducks> Although, we sorta have something along those lines with Magic's Bane. Just helps cause a spell to fizzle more often if successful. In a scale of 1 to 3 difficulty, 1 being the easiest; I'd rate that roar as being 2 or 3 to cause success.

- Ruffles

"The fire burns bright from within."

<<He's also got 60+ Circles on you
~Curi et al>>

Curi, were you responding to me or Navak?



Battle Rager Catullus

I know he's 130+ circle however, depleting a barbs IF especially a high level barb from 100% to 0% is insane. I know he's powerful and actually am very impressed with his abilities as well as some others. I take delight in being around them. Makes me rather excited and dying to be standing beside him when and if the war breaks lose again. So that I may witness his true might.

I'm just concerned with that spell because, it's a spell that aids yet it's destroying my fire completely. I won't be able to fight along side with him if he cast any area affect spells it's damaging. I would understand if he cast a harmfull spell at me, with his might and status I wouldn't complain. I was just curious if that is going to be changed or if not then I guess I won't be able to hang around high level mages because having no fire means I can't dance nor berserk and in a tough situation I'm pretty useless with just raw skill ranks.

I might have high combat skills in general but we all know those are useless when something is fighting you with special attacks and outcast don't play.


Battle Rager Catullus

Dead removes magic resistance, alive you still have some even with 0 or below IF. I've had my IF tanked by people who cast Zephyr and only have 10-20 circles on me if they are able to put a lot of mana into it. One of the problems of factoring skill+stat vs stat only stuff in general though.

I am --- Navak

<<I've had my IF tanked by people who cast Zephyr and only have 10-20 circles on me if they are able to put a lot of mana into it.

That is one thing that I really dislike about how barbarians are set up.......that another player can make our special abilities unusuable. I know we have resistance, but I don't see it working near that extent. I haven't heard much of the 2 roars, on how well they work.


Codiax.

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<<Do you think mages would be upset if a Barbarian had a roar that, with a 30 circle advantage, totally wiped out their harness?>>

I would say yes, but I don't think its as bad as Catallus is making it out to be (IF hits vary from a very big IF hit to pretty much no loss in IF but still getting messaging that its an IF hit). Galain has over 60 circles on him. His PM alone should make it easier for him to affect Catallus's IF while not dancing (for certain depending on the spell) and to affect his IF while dancing panther or dragon (depending on how much mana Galain puts into the spell and what spell it is).

I don't believe that Magic's Bane completely affects a mage's entire mana pool. When a mage overwhelms your BMR and gives you an inner fire hit, I would consider that to be instantious active attempts to lower your essence. On the flip side, when a Barbarian's BMR overwhelms the mage's spell matrix and causes motes to appear (complete failure of the spell), I would consider that passive attempts to lower the Mage's essence.

How does this relate to Magic's Bane? I believe that when you roar magic's bane and it successfully affects a mage and he casts a spell. The likelihood that the mage's spell matrix will be distrupted is increased to the point of failure or severe loss of power. When the spell fails, the mana is lost. Is the mana lost due to the Magic's Bane? Yes and no, but the mana is not instantiously via the Magic's Bane success. The mana seems to be lost when the Mage types cast.

That's just the way I see it.

- Ruffles

"The fire burns bright from within."