Re: New Titles on 01/24/2007 12:37 PM CST
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<<As a frequent raiser, my favor count is pretty much through the roof. Other people might remember Volentri's death spree when he wanted to change his last-favor; I'd prefer it if we didn't have to do that.

That was my concern for a last favor gained based title. Though it is the most logical way of addressing the issue. So if it happens, it happens, and I'll just live with it. Also, you can't support the eastern gods with such a title based system.

I do like the idea of having titles based off the number of favors one has. Maybe like Follower, Fanatic, Saved, Believer, Enthusiast, Believer, Practitioner, Zealot, Devotee, and Patron.

How about Hand of Tenemlor if you have the HoT spell?

Nikpack
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Re: New Titles on 01/24/2007 12:42 PM CST
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All the titles these days are giving me an identigying crisis.

Dragon Patsie Slayer Rience.

Yup that would do it.

Other than that, Phantom Bane, let's get it out there.


The Bopper
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Re: New Titles on 01/24/2007 02:44 PM CST
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Leave a couple slots open for "Necro Killer or Necro Slayer" when that guild does open up. ;)

-Entyycement
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Re: New Titles on 01/24/2007 04:47 PM CST
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Dont really need them in game to have titles, afterall necros are already in game as GMNPCS

Prolly would go to prydaen and rakash first tho since they actually get a penalty to being necros due to their hatred.
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Re: New Titles on 01/24/2007 06:46 PM CST
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Here is a list of all current titles.

Initiate Cleric
Apprentice Cleric
Journeyman Cleric
Journeywoman Cleric
Cleric
Expert Cleric
Master Cleric
Grand Master Cleric
Legendary Cleric
Transcendent Cleric
Acolyte
Supplicant
Celebrant
Brother
Sister
Friar
Worshipper
Vicar
Beseecher
Preacher
Witch Doctor
Mother
Father
Theurgist
Vigil Keeper
Holy Mage
Spirit Healer
Theorist
Shaman
Holy Scholar
Warrior Priest
Warrior Priestess
Hierarch
Solace
Oracle
Soul Reaver
Phantom Bane
Hierophant
Spirit Guide
Soul Magus
Intercessor
Matriarch
Patriarch
Theosophist
Zealot
Indoctrinator
Elder
Grace
Spirit Weaver
High Priest
High Priestess
Everlasting
Undying
Reborn in Flames
Resurrector
Life Restorer
Life Giver
Life Bestower
Malice
Soul Mutator
Divine Draughter
Master of Mana
Blessed
Inquisitor
Grand Inquisitor
Infuser
Shadow Priest
Reincarnated
Ritualist
Swamp Shaman
Apostate
Haloed
Exorcist
Holy Light
Holy Fire
Cremator
Monk
Phoenix
Bead Carver
Embalmer
Sacred Artisan
Totem Crafter
Abbot
Abbess
Father Superior
Mother Superior
Dervish
Holy Fist
Divine Emissary
Dragon Luller
Chosen
Hymnist
Psalmist
Imperishable Flame
Spellbinder
Dispeller
Mana Unraveller
Temple Guard
Temple Sentinel
Vizier
Spiritist
Spirit Adept
Spirit Dancer
Spirit Lord
Spirit Lady
Spirit Incarnate
Maelshyve's Bane



GM Lirrak
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Re: New Titles on 01/24/2007 06:59 PM CST
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Yummy! I'm suddenly VERY curious about the reqs for the last!

Ryeka


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Re: New Titles on 01/24/2007 07:22 PM CST
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Any chance of a reqs posting on those new ones?

The Bopper
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Re: New Titles on 01/24/2007 07:39 PM CST
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Ritualist? Anyone know the reqs on that one?
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Re: New Titles on 01/24/2007 08:00 PM CST
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>That was my concern for a last favor gained based title. ... Also, you can't support the eastern gods with such a title based system.

Uhm, I believe you mean non-Eastern gods; as the 39 that favors can be gained from are the Eastern gods. Unless I read that wrong?

Oh, I forgot to ask, are we ever going to see Guild/Race titles? For example: "Garidznawk" (Cleric) or "Saranis" (Holy man) for Rakash Clerics; "Chifacha" (Cleric) or "Kekabaga Chatamiki/Yif" (Holy Man/Woman)for Prydaen Clerics; dunno what the Gorbesh words for Cleric or Holy Man/Woman are, but I'm sure there probably are some...



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Re: New Titles on 01/24/2007 09:11 PM CST
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I'd like to second the request for having the titles page updated. There's a lot of neat titles now that I have no idea how far I am from earning.


Syralon
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>whisper air I don't deal with corpses.
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Re: New Titles on 01/24/2007 09:57 PM CST
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I highly encourage titles to show religious connotation. A couple things.

A) It would suck if the great majority of the new Cleric titles were deity-related, especially if we saw something like 'Everild's Chosen,' 'Everild's Sword,' 'Everild Faithful,' and then had those three styles for all 39 God aspects and then Simu said 'Yup, Cleric titles are done!' I would much rather a whole new category by made entitled 'Religion' that everyone can access, with some being Cleric-only like some of the Criminal titles are Thief-only.

B) My Barbarian, Bard and (well, all of them actually) are also highly religious. To go with A, an entire Religion category.

C) Choose any immortal like... Be'ort. Everild or Meraud may be one thing, but how many Be'ort followers do we actually have? I would really have to forfeit 40 potentially cool and mystical Cleric titles for carbon-copies of Immortal titles.

D) It would suck even more then C if 38/39ths of the new title releases were unavailable to me. While I can see the potential trouble of someone being flippant and choosing different gods every day when that is supposed to be a big decision IC, I almost think it better to just give everyone access to all of X level titles given they meet the reqs. For example, if the req for the 'God's Sword' title were 300 in all combats and 10 favors, give everyone who meets the reqs access to both 'Meraud's Sword' and 'Everild's Sword' and ever other god. The last-favor system really is way too limiting if it's instituted that way.

Just my four cents. I'd be happy to rack my brain to make suggestions for another two dozen general, non-deity Cleric titles if you need them.


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Re: New Titles on 01/24/2007 11:07 PM CST
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<<list of titles>>

Ahh, I wasn't counting the gender-based ones as two titles, it's all good now.

Dispeller and Mana Unraveller make me giddy. Meraud's Cry might be coming! On the other hand, I'm somewhat disappointed to see none of the undead hunting titles made it. Will we get any titles for HH and FoU besides Phantom Bane? I personally liked Magma Bringer alot, even if FoU doesn't involve lava.

And yeah, Blessed and Ritualist seem wonky. Could a GM check their reqs please?

>>I'd like to second the request for having the titles page updated. There's a lot of neat titles now that I have no idea how far I am from earning.

All of the new ones except Monk were taken from the suggestions in this folder, and from what I've seen, they've used the suggested reqs mostly. One exception I've noticed is Master of Mana, which appears to be much higher than suggested. So you could look back at the suggestions to get an idea.

>>Yummy! I'm suddenly VERY curious about the reqs for the last!

1000 TM.

~Aeth
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Re: New Titles on 01/24/2007 11:48 PM CST
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Dervish is one I hadn't heard before- anyone have that? Any clue as to the requirements?
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Re: New Titles on 01/25/2007 06:21 AM CST
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>Dervish

I'd say evasion, maybe brawling/ME, and vocals.
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Re: New Titles on 01/25/2007 07:28 AM CST
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I want Vizier now.


Syralon
Cleric of Ushnish
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>whisper air I don't deal with corpses.
Airanie whispers, "ah I'm sorry thought you were a cleric, my apologies"
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Re: New Titles on 01/25/2007 09:56 AM CST
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>> Uhm, I believe you mean non-Eastern gods;

Yeah, never was any good with directions. Guess that's why I'm not a ranger, eh?

Nikpack
player of Celeiros

-At the cleric meeting-
DARTENIAN says, "I think we all need to get down and pray for bit-based experience."
>DARTENIAN clears his throat.
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Re: New Titles on 01/25/2007 10:12 AM CST
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<<Hand of (Godname)>>
<<I could see this as perhaps being shared with Paladins.>>

You and me both.

<<(Godname)'s Blade>>
<<(Godname)'s Warrior>>

I like these too, for both Paladins and Clerics. We may need a "Deity" category now...::ponder::

<<Definitely include all 39 aspects and don't forget about the Rakash and Pryd gods.>>

Most assuredly.

<<Please, just no (Godname)'s [insert survival title here] a la the Arcane (everything) series.>>

Never. I said something similar over in the Ranger title topic, just not about Cleric titles.

<<I would hope that an "of God" affiliation title be available to all guilds.>>

We can add that to the Deity category, nods.

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Re: New Titles on 01/25/2007 10:13 AM CST
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<<ven though you are asking about (Eastern?) godly titles; I'd still like to see "Matchmaker" for those that have completed the rose quest.>>

I'm not positive we track that in a way the title system can interpret, but I'll see.


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Re: New Titles on 01/25/2007 10:19 AM CST
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<<I'd accept it if it were based on last-favor, but I'm hoping that another mechanic can be conceived to handle it.>>

The immediate result will probably be "last favor", but I'm talking with some folks about a way to make it work much much better. I had to clear the idea with the IFE tech to make sure what I wanted to do wouldn't be too much info to store and track and he said we should be ok.

Now we just need a more solidified design and someone to pick it up and run with it. :)


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Re: New Titles on 01/25/2007 10:23 AM CST
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<<One way to differentiate would be for laymen to only be allowed to designate the god they last got a favor for. Clerics could chose any god as their post.>>

Ah very good point there...we actually would be better served if that new system I mentioned only applied to Clerics and perhaps Paladins...

::ponder::

<<What about those who lean towards the Dark or Light Aspects of the pantheon? How about Friar Flavius, Witchdoctor of the Dark? Witchdoctor of the Light? Witchdoctor of the Grey?>>

Well...I'll have to check with Obseden about the "of the whatever" moniker, but I like the idea.

<<How about only clerics could have godly pre-titles, while all others could have godly post titles? That would make for some differentation.>>

::ponder:: Hrm...interesting...

<<Or perhaps there should be one generic non-cleric godly title: Follower of Meraud, Worshipper of Meraud, something like that>>

This is more likely, at least in the short term. :)


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Re: New Titles on 01/25/2007 10:24 AM CST
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What about "Divine Assassin" considering rangers got Natural Assassin.

::eye roll::


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Re: New Titles on 01/25/2007 10:43 AM CST
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>>What about "Divine Assassin" considering rangers got Natural Assassin.

::eye roll::


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Re: New Titles on 01/25/2007 10:56 AM CST
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"<<Hand of (Godname)>>
<<I could see this as perhaps being shared with Paladins.>>

You and me both.

<<(Godname)'s Blade>>
<<(Godname)'s Warrior>>"

I just want to mention once again my concerns about blurring the lines between clerics and paladins. Meraud's Blade or Kertigen's Warrior seems a fine fit for a paladin or a cleric. Something like Chadatru's Champion would seem like a Paladin only title- to reflect their role as champions. "Hand of Tamsine" though would seem much more like a cleric only title- clerics are the representative and servents of the gods.
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Re: New Titles on 01/25/2007 10:57 AM CST
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<<Here is a list of all current titles.>>

Well now...I wasn't expecting that! ;)


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Re: New Titles on 01/25/2007 11:41 AM CST
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<<I'd still like to see "Matchmaker" for those that have completed the rose quest.>>

<<I'm not positive we track that in a way the title system can interpret, but I'll see.

Do you need to complete the quest to circle? If so, couldn't you just give it a circle requirement?

Nikpack
player of Celeiros

-At the cleric meeting-
DARTENIAN says, "I think we all need to get down and pray for bit-based experience."
>DARTENIAN clears his throat.
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Re: New Titles on 01/25/2007 11:50 AM CST
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><<I'd still like to see "Matchmaker" for those that have completed the rose quest.>>

><<I'm not positive we track that in a way the title system can interpret, but I'll see.

>Do you need to complete the quest to circle?

Not unless it's been changed recently.

Bambina
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Re: New Titles on 01/25/2007 11:58 AM CST
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Good to hear you're looking into the options, Solomon.


Syralon
Cleric of Ushnish
Airanie whispers, "are you raising?"
>whisper air I don't deal with corpses.
Airanie whispers, "ah I'm sorry thought you were a cleric, my apologies"
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Re: New Titles on 01/25/2007 01:11 PM CST
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I was told a title couldnt be three words that would rule out hand of god. Thats why i havent suggested 3 word ones for mine

Unless all those points for custum titles cant be as long as a regular free one :P

Can a GM clarify?
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Re: New Titles on 01/25/2007 01:17 PM CST
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>>I was told a title couldnt be three words that would rule out hand of god.

Arcane World Ender. Reborn in Flames. Grand Master Moon Mage.

~Aeth
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Re: New Titles on 01/25/2007 01:45 PM CST
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To be fair, those titles are pretty clunky.


Syralon
Cleric of Ushnish
Airanie whispers, "are you raising?"
>whisper air I don't deal with corpses.
Airanie whispers, "ah I'm sorry thought you were a cleric, my apologies"
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Re: New Titles on 01/25/2007 01:52 PM CST
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I think "of God" would make a better affiliation title.

Nikpack
player of Celeiros

-At the cleric meeting-
DARTENIAN says, "I think we all need to get down and pray for bit-based experience."
>DARTENIAN clears his throat.
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Re: New Titles on 01/25/2007 05:14 PM CST
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>Do you need to complete the quest to circle? If so, couldn't you just give it a circle requirement?

Yes. Yes you do. As my room mates and anyone who spoke to me during the week and a half long period when I had enough ranks to circle but couldn't FIGURE OUT THE BLOODY QUEST which I never intend to use and still don't know how to do.

No, I'm not still angry.
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Re: New Titles on 01/25/2007 05:17 PM CST
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The solution to this is obviously to roll up a mule cleric, circle him up to 35th, and test it. <serene innocence>


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Re: New Titles on 01/25/2007 05:22 PM CST
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Okay for those who can't do:

Preacher Teacher
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Re: New Titles on 01/25/2007 05:25 PM CST
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Preacher Teacher- oh requirements would be 825 teaching.
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Re: New Titles on 01/25/2007 05:49 PM CST
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Miracle Man Rience

Yup, that would work.

The Bopper
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Re: New Titles on 01/25/2007 05:52 PM CST
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Preacher Man Flavius

Requirements: just coolness
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Re: New Titles on 01/25/2007 06:04 PM CST
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>Yes. Yes you do. As my room mates and anyone who spoke to me during the week and a half long period when I had enough ranks to circle but couldn't FIGURE OUT THE BLOODY QUEST which I never intend to use and still don't know how to do.

Ha! I 'member that week!


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Re: New Titles on 01/25/2007 06:31 PM CST
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<<Okay for those who can't do:

<<Preacher Teacher

And for those that can't teach:

Gym Teacher




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Re: New Titles on 01/25/2007 06:49 PM CST
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For those old enough to remember:

Billy-ray was a preachers son
And when his daddy would visit hed come along
When they gathered round and started talkin
Thats when billy would take me walkin
A-through the back yard wed go walkin
Then hed look into my eyes
Lord knows to my surprise

The only one who could ever reach me
Was the son of a preacher man
The only boy who could ever teach me
Was the son of a preacher man
Yes he was, he was, mmm, yes he was

Being good isnt always easy
No matter how hard I try
When he started sweet-talkin to me
Hed come and tell me everything is all right
Hed kiss and tell me everything is all right
Can I get away again tonight?

The only one who could ever reach me
Was the son of a preacher man
The only boy who could ever teach me
Was the son of a preacher man
Yes he was, he was, lord knows he was

How well I remember
The look that was in his eyes
Stealin kisses from me on the sly
Takin time to make time
Tellin me that hes all mine
Learnin from each others knowing
Lookin to see how much weve grown

And the only one who could ever reach me
Was the son of a preacher man
The only boy who could ever teach me
Was the son of a preacher man
Yes he was, he was, oh, yes he was
He was the sweet-talking son of a preacher man
I guessed he was the son of a preacher man
Sweet-lovin son of a preacher man
Ahh, move me



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