Debilitation on 06/13/2015 11:15 AM CDT
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Like many I'm back WAY after the magic changes and finally have figured out how to train all the different magics, except debilitation. All I have as a debil spell atm is Malediction and no matter how many times I cast it when hunting it doesn't work or teach all that great. Current debilitation skill is at 411, Holy Magic at 535. I'm casting as high as the skills allow as well. Am I missing something?

Oh also, I'm aligned to Meraud, which I assume has an affect.

Thanks for the help!
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Re: Debilitation on 06/13/2015 11:18 AM CDT
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Debil trains like TM, so the creature has to be 'at level' for your Debil skill. What are you casting Malediction on?
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Re: Debilitation on 06/13/2015 11:45 AM CDT
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I tried Doebeks and Genis and something in the temple of the north wind... forget the name... they drop shards. I couldn't get it moving past learning.
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Re: Debilitation on 06/13/2015 12:08 PM CDT
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>>Debil trains like TM, so the creature has to be 'at level' for your Debil skill. What are you casting Malediction on?

No it doesn't. For your Debil to learn in an area your stats (your stats in the contest vs. critters stats in the contest) have to be at level for the area. For MUs the only thing that the skill matters for is how much mana you can put into the spell. Success and EXP gain are based on the stat contest, and how challenging it is for you.

Malediction is a Spirit (Wisdom, Charisma, Intelligence) vs. Fortitude (Stamina, Discipline, Strength) contest. So it sounds like your mental stats are a lot higher than the physical stats of the critter you are fighting. You could find a different Debil spell that uses a different contest that will be more challenging, or you will have to move to something different (probably harder).
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Re: Debilitation on 06/13/2015 12:54 PM CDT
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Pick up hydra hex, it'll make debilitation learning a lot easier.

I forget, can malediction be replaced? If not that's probably cutting into the learning.
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Re: Debilitation on 06/13/2015 01:16 PM CDT
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> Success and EXP gain are based on the stat contest, and how challenging it is for you.

You're mistaken. While this does play a role in exp gain, it's not the only thing. Your debilitation skill is also compared to the critter, and you won't learn if you outrank the critter by too much.
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Re: Debilitation on 06/16/2015 12:32 AM CDT
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I learned hydra hex... Good call! I have to admit that at first I was undecided about the point of the cyclic spells, but now I'm totally in love. Thanks for the tip!
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