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You should only get RT (and more info) if you're an empath.
If you're not an empath, you get no RT, but you also get no experience for it.
So there you go.
GM Reexa
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Currently Reading: The Initiate by Louise Cooper; The Mammoth Hunters by Jean Auel
You take off a soft grey kitten mask.
>focus mask
You focus your magical sense on a soft grey kitten mask.
The soft grey mask has a definite magical pattern.
You are unable to recognize the magical pattern.
>wear mask
As you slip a soft grey kitten mask over your face, you feel your flesh twist and mold into its cast. The feeling is very odd.
No RT for me...
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-Clemency
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"Put your head up to my heart, hear me live and follow suit, this will all be over soon, it's gonna hurt a little." -Emberghost
>focus mask
You focus your magical sense on a soft grey kitten mask.
The soft grey mask has a definite magical pattern.
You are unable to recognize the magical pattern.
>wear mask
As you slip a soft grey kitten mask over your face, you feel your flesh twist and mold into its cast. The feeling is very odd.
No RT for me...
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-Clemency
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"Put your head up to my heart, hear me live and follow suit, this will all be over soon, it's gonna hurt a little." -Emberghost
<<That's the same messaging Miki got a couple days ago, and she was definitely able to charge it.>>
Reene, was yours the same type as Clem's, or were you getting it on a different one? Do you get that on all of them or just certain ones.
GM Reexa, who definitely had a RT when she tried the dragon mask earlier today
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Currently Reading: The Initiate by Louise Cooper; The Mammoth Hunters by Jean Auel
Reene, was yours the same type as Clem's, or were you getting it on a different one? Do you get that on all of them or just certain ones.
GM Reexa, who definitely had a RT when she tried the dragon mask earlier today
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Currently Reading: The Initiate by Louise Cooper; The Mammoth Hunters by Jean Auel
>You focus your magical sense on a sultry mermaid mask embellished with silk kelp leaves and strands of tiny seashells.
>The mermaid mask has a definite magical pattern.
>You are unable to recognize the magical pattern.
>You focus your magical sense on a fire maiden mask draped with long red feathers and golden flames.
>The maiden mask has a definite magical pattern.
>You are unable to recognize the magical pattern.
No RT for me on either of the ones I currently have with me...
~ Gwynfydedig
A pure white alfar avenger whispers, "Heyas! The name's Fred. Nice to meet ya, Gwynfydedig!"
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>The mermaid mask has a definite magical pattern.
>You are unable to recognize the magical pattern.
>You focus your magical sense on a fire maiden mask draped with long red feathers and golden flames.
>The maiden mask has a definite magical pattern.
>You are unable to recognize the magical pattern.
No RT for me on either of the ones I currently have with me...
~ Gwynfydedig
A pure white alfar avenger whispers, "Heyas! The name's Fred. Nice to meet ya, Gwynfydedig!"
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Well I definitely get an RT when I try to charge one. So far I haven't had any luck. Not sure if I'm just not skilled enough or not charging it high enough.
~ Gwynfydedig
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~ Gwynfydedig
A pure white alfar avenger whispers, "Heyas! The name's Fred. Nice to meet ya, Gwynfydedig!"
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on charging sable masks, you're looking at hundreds of mana, so to do it effectively, you need to be able to harness 100 mana, and have a room that will support it. Same with flower charms
Souv
xxxx is teaching a class on advanced (compared to what you already know) empathy, and there appears to be room in it. You are in this class!
Huzzah!
Souv
xxxx is teaching a class on advanced (compared to what you already know) empathy, and there appears to be room in it. You are in this class!
Huzzah!
I've never found a need to use a spell scroll in my life. I hope that I will never have the need to. I run my fatigue, health, and mana down to the 1% mark often, I don't think my scroll usage would like that
Souv
xxxx is teaching a class on advanced (compared to what you already know) empathy, and there appears to be room in it. You are in this class!
Huzzah!
Souv
xxxx is teaching a class on advanced (compared to what you already know) empathy, and there appears to be room in it. You are in this class!
Huzzah!
Hrm...I've charged plenty of flower charms before with no trouble. By 20's. Hmmm...do the mask's charges have to be completely spent before you can charge one?
~ Gwynfydedig
A pure white alfar avenger whispers, "Heyas! The name's Fred. Nice to meet ya, Gwynfydedig!"
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~ Gwynfydedig
A pure white alfar avenger whispers, "Heyas! The name's Fred. Nice to meet ya, Gwynfydedig!"
Want to know more about the Battle Empath Council? Visit: http://www.geocities.com/saerhyn/ESC/BattleEmpath.html
You take off a black and silver dragon mask.
>foc mask
You focus your magical sense on a black and silver dragon mask.
The silver mask has a definite magical pattern.
You recognize the pattern as a manifestation of Life Magic.
You feel a peculiar attunement to the silver mask.
Roundtime: 10 sec.
I know Reexa already said she got the RT on the dragon mask, but was just posting so she knew it wasn't just her. :-) Don't have any other masks to try with.
~Chris
>foc mask
You focus your magical sense on a black and silver dragon mask.
The silver mask has a definite magical pattern.
You recognize the pattern as a manifestation of Life Magic.
You feel a peculiar attunement to the silver mask.
Roundtime: 10 sec.
I know Reexa already said she got the RT on the dragon mask, but was just posting so she knew it wasn't just her. :-) Don't have any other masks to try with.
~Chris
Why don't I see that fun stuff?
>charge mask 10
You harness some energy and attempt to channel it into your soft grey mask.
Waves of pale blue-white light envelope your soft grey mask as it absorbs the energy. After a moment it returns to normal.
Roundtime: 10 sec.
R>focus mask
You focus your magical sense on a soft grey kitten mask.
The soft grey mask has a definite magical pattern.
You are unable to recognize the magical pattern.
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-Clemency
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"Put your head up to my heart, hear me live and follow suit, this will all be over soon, it's gonna hurt a little." -Emberghost
>charge mask 10
You harness some energy and attempt to channel it into your soft grey mask.
Waves of pale blue-white light envelope your soft grey mask as it absorbs the energy. After a moment it returns to normal.
Roundtime: 10 sec.
R>focus mask
You focus your magical sense on a soft grey kitten mask.
The soft grey mask has a definite magical pattern.
You are unable to recognize the magical pattern.
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-Clemency
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"Put your head up to my heart, hear me live and follow suit, this will all be over soon, it's gonna hurt a little." -Emberghost
>don't think so. To be clear though, I'm not saying it's not possible... just not efficient
>Souv
You pay an attunement penalty the more mana you harness at one time, so charging in chunks instead of all at once is actually more efficient in terms of attunement. If your magic skills are good enough, and you're at an excellent magic spot such as the Willow Walk fountain, you can charge 20 at a time and regenerate your attunement back to 100% before the RT is up.
>Souv
You pay an attunement penalty the more mana you harness at one time, so charging in chunks instead of all at once is actually more efficient in terms of attunement. If your magic skills are good enough, and you're at an excellent magic spot such as the Willow Walk fountain, you can charge 20 at a time and regenerate your attunement back to 100% before the RT is up.
we don't pay an attunement penalty, we get a bonus the closer we are to full attunement. There's a subtle difference. In terms of attunement, if you get to 100% before the roundtime is up, you didn't put enough mana into it. Ideally you should reach 100% just as your roundtime is up. In terms of time however, I haven't done extensive testing, but I feel that it's faster for me to put in a chunk of 100 mana or so and wait for the attunement to go back up (I use riverpine as the mana is better than willow walk) as opposed to spamming several 20's. That's just my personal preference, and you're welcome to yours
Souv
xxxx is teaching a class on advanced (compared to what you already know) empathy, and there appears to be room in it. You are in this class!
Huzzah!
Souv
xxxx is teaching a class on advanced (compared to what you already know) empathy, and there appears to be room in it. You are in this class!
Huzzah!
Okay, as an experiment I used up the charges on one of my masks...not only can I not tell anything about it when I focus on it, I still can't charge it. Tried many different amounts of mana from 5 on up. Am I just not skilled enough? I realize it takes a significant amount of mana to charge one, but I've had no problem charging flower charms so I thought I might be able to charge a mask.
~ Gwynfydedig
A pure white alfar avenger whispers, "Heyas! The name's Fred. Nice to meet ya, Gwynfydedig!"
Want to know more about the Battle Empath Council? Visit: http://www.geocities.com/saerhyn/ESC/BattleEmpath.html
~ Gwynfydedig
A pure white alfar avenger whispers, "Heyas! The name's Fred. Nice to meet ya, Gwynfydedig!"
Want to know more about the Battle Empath Council? Visit: http://www.geocities.com/saerhyn/ESC/BattleEmpath.html
<<you might be surprised clem... I didn't know I could cast SOP with 100 mana and not leak until I put an extra 0 one day
I thought sop capped at 64 mana. Why are you putting so much in?
Mole
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When it crosses my mind to do something, I don't ask why, I ask why not. And usually theres no reason not to, so I just go ahead. Its given me the strangest collection of hats.
I thought sop capped at 64 mana. Why are you putting so much in?
Mole
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When it crosses my mind to do something, I don't ask why, I ask why not. And usually theres no reason not to, so I just go ahead. Its given me the strangest collection of hats.
I was able to recharge a mask with 100 ranks of MD.
(Yeah, okay, I never really trained MD. RT is not healing friendly!)
Lower than that I'm not sure...but it's not that high in any case.
Rev. Reene, player of a few
You ask, "Who wants cake?"
>
Cayene says, "I'm good."
>
Cayene suddenly looks rather queasy.
(Yeah, okay, I never really trained MD. RT is not healing friendly!)
Lower than that I'm not sure...but it's not that high in any case.
Rev. Reene, player of a few
You ask, "Who wants cake?"
>
Cayene says, "I'm good."
>
Cayene suddenly looks rather queasy.
Okies
Played with things s'more backstage...
It takes less MD to charge a mask than it does to detect the charges. So you can still charge a mask without being able to decipher its pattern.
You only get the experience, though, when the RT kicks in, so if you don't see that RT when you focus on the mask, you need more MD skill. If you don't see it when you charge it, you need more MD skill.
And no, I'm not going to cover exactly what level you need to be to do which. If Obseden decides he likes you, maybe he'll tell you, but considering how good y'all are at comparing notes and figuring it out, I think we'll leave it at that for now. If y'all are writhing in agony at the lack of knowing for sure a year from now, we'll reconsider.
So charge up, my friends, and get some mad MD skillz with your purple thistles and flesh-dripping wir dinegos.
I have some ideas for expanding Sable into even more options (hundreds of masks at your fingertips!) but that'll have to wait "until next time."
GM Reexa
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Currently Reading: The Mammoth Hunters by Jean Auel, Shroud for a Nightingale by PD James
Played with things s'more backstage...
It takes less MD to charge a mask than it does to detect the charges. So you can still charge a mask without being able to decipher its pattern.
You only get the experience, though, when the RT kicks in, so if you don't see that RT when you focus on the mask, you need more MD skill. If you don't see it when you charge it, you need more MD skill.
And no, I'm not going to cover exactly what level you need to be to do which. If Obseden decides he likes you, maybe he'll tell you, but considering how good y'all are at comparing notes and figuring it out, I think we'll leave it at that for now. If y'all are writhing in agony at the lack of knowing for sure a year from now, we'll reconsider.
So charge up, my friends, and get some mad MD skillz with your purple thistles and flesh-dripping wir dinegos.
I have some ideas for expanding Sable into even more options (hundreds of masks at your fingertips!) but that'll have to wait "until next time."
GM Reexa
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Currently Reading: The Mammoth Hunters by Jean Auel, Shroud for a Nightingale by PD James
Cool! Thanks for clearing things up. And...hundreds of masks at my fingertips....::drools and runs of to practice more MD::
~ Gwynfydedig
A pure white alfar avenger whispers, "Heyas! The name's Fred. Nice to meet ya, Gwynfydedig!"
Want to know more about the Battle Empath Council? Visit: http://www.geocities.com/saerhyn/ESC/BattleEmpath.html
~ Gwynfydedig
A pure white alfar avenger whispers, "Heyas! The name's Fred. Nice to meet ya, Gwynfydedig!"
Want to know more about the Battle Empath Council? Visit: http://www.geocities.com/saerhyn/ESC/BattleEmpath.html
>we don't pay an attunement penalty, we get a bonus the closer we are to full attunement.
I think we're talking about two separate parts of the attunement system, Souv. You are right, attunement regenerates faster the closer you are to 100%. But I'm referring to the loss of attunement when you harness. The penalty I was referring to is that you lose proportionally more attunement the larger amount that you harness in one chunk.
In other words, harnessing 10 mana means you lose more attunement than if you had harnessed 5 mana twice, harnessing 20 mana means you lose more attunement than if you had harnessed 10 twice, etc etc. So charging/harnessing in big chunks incurs an attunement penalty compared to harnessing the same total amount in smaller chunks.
I was curious about the differences myself, so I just ran a little test. I harnessed a total of 100 mana by different chunks and measured the time it took to return to full attunement. I began each run at 100% attunement with clean nerves, and started the stopwatch when harnessing the first chunk. Location was Willow Walk Fountain and my harness skill is 284 ranks.
10 x 10 mana: took 54 seconds from the first harness to return to 100% attunement, or about 10 seconds after issuing the last harness command. Bottom attunement was 94%. Harnessing the first 10 mana took me to 97% attunement.
5 x 20 mana: took 122 seconds to return to 100% attunement. Bottom attunement was 54%. Harnessing the first 20 mana took me to 89%.
2 x 50 mana: took 190 seconds to return to 100%. Bottom was 32% and the first 50 mana took me down to 66%.
1 x 100 mana: took 215 seconds to return to 100%. Harnessing 100 mana in one go took me down to 27% attunement.
This shows that it's more efficient to harness in smaller chunks when you can, as your attunement will regenerate faster.
I think we're talking about two separate parts of the attunement system, Souv. You are right, attunement regenerates faster the closer you are to 100%. But I'm referring to the loss of attunement when you harness. The penalty I was referring to is that you lose proportionally more attunement the larger amount that you harness in one chunk.
In other words, harnessing 10 mana means you lose more attunement than if you had harnessed 5 mana twice, harnessing 20 mana means you lose more attunement than if you had harnessed 10 twice, etc etc. So charging/harnessing in big chunks incurs an attunement penalty compared to harnessing the same total amount in smaller chunks.
I was curious about the differences myself, so I just ran a little test. I harnessed a total of 100 mana by different chunks and measured the time it took to return to full attunement. I began each run at 100% attunement with clean nerves, and started the stopwatch when harnessing the first chunk. Location was Willow Walk Fountain and my harness skill is 284 ranks.
10 x 10 mana: took 54 seconds from the first harness to return to 100% attunement, or about 10 seconds after issuing the last harness command. Bottom attunement was 94%. Harnessing the first 10 mana took me to 97% attunement.
5 x 20 mana: took 122 seconds to return to 100% attunement. Bottom attunement was 54%. Harnessing the first 20 mana took me to 89%.
2 x 50 mana: took 190 seconds to return to 100%. Bottom was 32% and the first 50 mana took me down to 66%.
1 x 100 mana: took 215 seconds to return to 100%. Harnessing 100 mana in one go took me down to 27% attunement.
This shows that it's more efficient to harness in smaller chunks when you can, as your attunement will regenerate faster.
You focus your magical sense on a road bandit mask wrapped in deep black silk.
The bandit mask has a definite magical pattern.
You recognize the pattern as a manifestation of Life Magic.
You feel a peculiar attunement to the bandit mask.
You sense the bandit mask has many charges left.
Roundtime: 10 sec.
284 MD. Anyone know how much it is to get exact charges?
I'm not sure if I have said it yet, but I love the return of the masks. I was always kind of hoping it would be a creation system too.
~Purehand
The bandit mask has a definite magical pattern.
You recognize the pattern as a manifestation of Life Magic.
You feel a peculiar attunement to the bandit mask.
You sense the bandit mask has many charges left.
Roundtime: 10 sec.
284 MD. Anyone know how much it is to get exact charges?
I'm not sure if I have said it yet, but I love the return of the masks. I was always kind of hoping it would be a creation system too.
~Purehand
You focus your magical sense on a sultry mermaid mask embellished with silk kelp leaves and strands of tiny seashells.
The mermaid mask has a definite magical pattern.
You recognize the pattern as a manifestation of Life Magic.
You feel a peculiar attunement to the mermaid mask.
You sense the mermaid mask has 10 charges left.
Roundtime: 10 sec.
Magical Devices: 313 65% learning
Mya Eloy
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The mermaid mask has a definite magical pattern.
You recognize the pattern as a manifestation of Life Magic.
You feel a peculiar attunement to the mermaid mask.
You sense the mermaid mask has 10 charges left.
Roundtime: 10 sec.
Magical Devices: 313 65% learning
Mya Eloy
When you get into a tight place and everything goes against you, never give up then, for that is just the place and time that the tide will turn.
http://darkanvil.bravepages.com/Index.html
focus my mask
You focus your magical sense on an ice queen mask framed with iridescent crystals.
The queen mask has a definite magical pattern.
You recognize the pattern as a manifestation of Life Magic.
You feel a peculiar attunement to the queen mask.
You sense the queen mask has many charges left.
Roundtime: 10 sec.
Magical Devices: 298 41.58% muddled
Requirment is probably 300 MD then.
Mole
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When it crosses my mind to do something, I don't ask why, I ask why not. And usually theres no reason not to, so I just go ahead. Its given me the strangest collection of hats.
You focus your magical sense on an ice queen mask framed with iridescent crystals.
The queen mask has a definite magical pattern.
You recognize the pattern as a manifestation of Life Magic.
You feel a peculiar attunement to the queen mask.
You sense the queen mask has many charges left.
Roundtime: 10 sec.
Magical Devices: 298 41.58% muddled
Requirment is probably 300 MD then.
Mole
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When it crosses my mind to do something, I don't ask why, I ask why not. And usually theres no reason not to, so I just go ahead. Its given me the strangest collection of hats.
>>I thought sop capped at 64 mana. Why are you putting so much in?
Mole<<
well,
1. I didn't know what SOP capped at.
2. like I said... I typed 100 instead of 10 one day
Souv
xxxx is teaching a class on advanced (compared to what you already know) empathy, and there appears to be room in it. You are in this class!
Huzzah!
Mole<<
well,
1. I didn't know what SOP capped at.
2. like I said... I typed 100 instead of 10 one day
Souv
xxxx is teaching a class on advanced (compared to what you already know) empathy, and there appears to be room in it. You are in this class!
Huzzah!
>>farman<<
OK, I'm following you now. We were talking about two different things. But still, if you have more skill, why not pump more in? It would be a personal decision as to where you get the maximum ratio of attunement vs. time spent, but that's a different experiment. For now, I'll conceede that you're right on your point and mine is yet plausible
Souv
xxxx is teaching a class on advanced (compared to what you already know) empathy, and there appears to be room in it. You are in this class!
Huzzah!
OK, I'm following you now. We were talking about two different things. But still, if you have more skill, why not pump more in? It would be a personal decision as to where you get the maximum ratio of attunement vs. time spent, but that's a different experiment. For now, I'll conceede that you're right on your point and mine is yet plausible
Souv
xxxx is teaching a class on advanced (compared to what you already know) empathy, and there appears to be room in it. You are in this class!
Huzzah!
