Quick question, what are the reasons for preventing us from linking stealing? I don't really see any IC reasons that we couldn't draw upon that knowledge. Just because we can't harm something directly doesn't mean we have to be angels.
Thanks!
~Purehand
Re: Stealing on 08/09/2007 11:36 AM CDT
The most likely reason is that we can't teach the Stealing skill (I think...that is still only teachable by Thieves, right?). Link seems to be closely tied with what's listed under TEACH OPTION, so I suspect it's merely a mechanical limitation/oversight/etc. I haven't tried it, but I would guess that LINKing is probably identical to TEACHing right down to the "teach/link weapon thrown" option even though Link was probably not specifically updated for that addition. I doubt there's any philosophical reasoning involved in it whatsoever.
Thanks,
-Grand Master Empath Karthor
Thanks,
-Grand Master Empath Karthor
Re: Stealing on 08/10/2007 03:36 AM CDT
You have a point Purehand. I wouldn't say there is any correlation between teaching and linking.
Not even thieves can teach stealing in the open. Not even thieves could see a link between empaths. Only the linker and the linkee can see said stealing link.
Has it always been this way? Or was not-teaching-stealing put in at the same time linking was?
-Desperado Clemency Apollonia, Journeyman Empath of Elanthia
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Not even thieves can teach stealing in the open. Not even thieves could see a link between empaths. Only the linker and the linkee can see said stealing link.
Has it always been this way? Or was not-teaching-stealing put in at the same time linking was?
-Desperado Clemency Apollonia, Journeyman Empath of Elanthia
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Re: Stealing on 08/10/2007 08:43 AM CDT
Re: Stealing on 08/18/2007 09:10 AM CDT
Well I stand by my claim of it being related to Teaching. Now that stealing and multi are teachable, they are both linkable.
As the link between you and Xxxxxx deepens, you feel somewhat wiser in stealing.
As the link between you and Xxxxxx deepens, you feel somewhat wiser in multiple engaged opponent.
I'm a little surprised thrown didn't work though, not that it would be useful anyway.
>link xxxxxx weapon thrown
You extend additional tendrils of life energy towards Xxxxxx, trying to learn some additional light edged skill, at least temporarily, from her.
>
As the link between you and Xxxxxx deepens, you feel a little wiser in light edged weapons.
Thanks,
-Grand Master Empath Karthor
As the link between you and Xxxxxx deepens, you feel somewhat wiser in stealing.
As the link between you and Xxxxxx deepens, you feel somewhat wiser in multiple engaged opponent.
I'm a little surprised thrown didn't work though, not that it would be useful anyway.
>link xxxxxx weapon thrown
You extend additional tendrils of life energy towards Xxxxxx, trying to learn some additional light edged skill, at least temporarily, from her.
>
As the link between you and Xxxxxx deepens, you feel a little wiser in light edged weapons.
Thanks,
-Grand Master Empath Karthor
Re: Stealing on 08/18/2007 11:41 AM CDT
Re: Stealing on 08/18/2007 12:18 PM CDT
<<Why are you surprised? If you teach you'll get the same result.>>
Wait, did I get the syntax wrong or something? It's supposed to be the case that TEACH <person> WEAPON THROWN teaches the thrown skill (in this case it would have been Light Thrown), but LINK <person> WEAPON THROWN linked the melee skill (in this case it was Light Edged). I would have expected the link to be in the Light Thrown skill.
Thanks,
-Grand Master Empath Karthor
Wait, did I get the syntax wrong or something? It's supposed to be the case that TEACH <person> WEAPON THROWN teaches the thrown skill (in this case it would have been Light Thrown), but LINK <person> WEAPON THROWN linked the melee skill (in this case it was Light Edged). I would have expected the link to be in the Light Thrown skill.
Thanks,
-Grand Master Empath Karthor
Re: Stealing on 08/18/2007 12:33 PM CDT
I thought the keyword was OPTION, and it was reserved for teaching other weapon skills than the first listed for combo weapons (ie, bolas are LB/LT)?
J'Lo, I'm a ranger.. I'd believe anything.....
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J'Lo, I'm a ranger.. I'd believe anything.....
The Manipulation List -- http://symphaena.com/index.html
Re: Stealing on 08/18/2007 12:49 PM CDT
Re: Stealing on 08/18/2007 01:17 PM CDT
>> Well I stand by my claim of it being related to Teaching. Now that stealing and multi are teachable, they are both linkable.
It's been stated repeatedly in the past that the Link system was closely tied to the Teaching system, and so limitations in the Teaching system would also transfer to the Link system. It's not exactly a new conclusion or theory.
Rev. Reene
[Jenealle] "What do you call a four-foot Moon Mage runnin' from the Town Guard?"
[Jenealle] "A small medium at large."
It's been stated repeatedly in the past that the Link system was closely tied to the Teaching system, and so limitations in the Teaching system would also transfer to the Link system. It's not exactly a new conclusion or theory.
Rev. Reene
[Jenealle] "What do you call a four-foot Moon Mage runnin' from the Town Guard?"
[Jenealle] "A small medium at large."
Re: Stealing on 08/18/2007 01:44 PM CDT
<<It's been stated repeatedly in the past that the Link system was closely tied to the Teaching system, and so limitations in the Teaching system would also transfer to the Link system. It's not exactly a new conclusion or theory.>>
Yes I know, but earlier in this particular discussion people seemed to disagree.
Thanks,
-Grand Master Empath Karthor
Yes I know, but earlier in this particular discussion people seemed to disagree.
Thanks,
-Grand Master Empath Karthor
Re: Stealing on 08/18/2007 06:06 PM CDT
>It's been stated repeatedly in the past that the Link system was closely tied to the Teaching system, and so limitations in the Teaching system would also transfer to the Link system. It's not exactly a new conclusion or theory.
Oh. Wasn't aware of those. Sorry Karthor, I was wrong.
I still don't really understand why they're related though...and does one learn teaching when linked? To my knowledge, no. Then again, I rarely ever link when I'm not being taught or teaching.
-Desperado Clemency Apollonia, Journeyman Empath of Elanthia
>prod raccoon
It might be a bit safer if a young raccoon was dead first.
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Oh. Wasn't aware of those. Sorry Karthor, I was wrong.
I still don't really understand why they're related though...and does one learn teaching when linked? To my knowledge, no. Then again, I rarely ever link when I'm not being taught or teaching.
-Desperado Clemency Apollonia, Journeyman Empath of Elanthia
>prod raccoon
It might be a bit safer if a young raccoon was dead first.
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Re: Stealing on 08/18/2007 07:36 PM CDT
>>I still don't really understand why they're related though...and does one learn teaching when linked?
You know how teaching works, right? Linking works the same way, except that you replace Teaching with Empathy and use a different set of verbs to start things up.
J'Lo, I'm a ranger.. I'd believe anything.....
The Manipulation List -- http://symphaena.com/index.html
You know how teaching works, right? Linking works the same way, except that you replace Teaching with Empathy and use a different set of verbs to start things up.
J'Lo, I'm a ranger.. I'd believe anything.....
The Manipulation List -- http://symphaena.com/index.html